Around The NBA : 2024-25 Season

[Wingy]

yeah i think it's understated how much moving off KCP factored into that deal. orlando basically couldn't do anything this significant without shedding that contract and i doubt there were many teams eager to take it on

It’s next year, then a player option. I think the contract is actually getting over-emphasized in discussions. I’m sure he’s going to be gunning for a good season next year so he can get what’s probably his last longer term offer and wants to avoid needing to exercise that option.

[Red8911]

Why are trades being made now during the finals ? How is that fair to the teams that are in the finals, what if they wanted to make a trade for Bane ?

Doesn’t make any sense and the NBA should change this, wait at least a few days after the season is officially over to complete trades.

[imagge]

Trades are not usually allowed to be finished during the finals but I would chalk this up to finals ratings being low and an attempt to generate more buzz during this time

[Dan Z]

I didn't know about this detail in the Bane trade until now. I often saw it reported that they traded the 2026 Phoenix pick, but it's actually a swap.

It can't be the #1 pick, but there's a good chance that it's in the lottery. It also means that Orlando will have a pick in the 2026 draft.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45518013/nba-trade-grades-2025-26-breaking-most-impactful-offseason-deals

As picks in a deal like this go, the Grizzlies got some with reasonable upside. In addition to this year's No. 16 pick -- higher than either of the two 2025 selections the Nets landed in the Bridges deal (No. 19 and No. 26) -- Memphis also moves higher in the pecking order for next year's Phoenix Suns first-rounder.

The Grizzlies already held swap rights with the Suns, but only after potential swaps with both the Wizards and Magic. Now, Memphis moves up a spot, ending up with the better of Orlando's 2026 first-rounder and the worse of ones belong to Phoenix and Washington. If both the Suns and Wizards miss the playoffs, the Grizzlies will yield a 2026 lottery pick from this trade.

[Ice Man]

It seems to me these deals with multiple unprotected picks are fads ... a team will trade a bunch of unprotected firsts, that doesn't work out, then for a while you can't pry even a single unprotected first from a team. Then after a while the memory fades and unprotected firsts b econe like candy.

The Knicks kicked the current traden off last season with Bridges and now the Bane deal. Meaning we should be trying really, really, really hard to see if any NBA team that is in a similar mood covets one of our players.

[sco]

It seems to me these deals with multiple unprotected picks are fads ... a team will trade a bunch of unprotected firsts, that doesn't work out, then for a while you can't pry even a single unprotected first from a team. Then after a while the memory fades and unprotected firsts b econe like candy.

The Knicks kicked the current traden off last season with Bridges and now the Bane deal. Meaning we should be trying really, really, really hard to see if any NBA team that is in a similar mood covets one of our players.

Yeah, the only possible player that we could possibly get interest in is Coby. Unfortunately, a key team of interest would have been ORL.

ORL, IMO has pieces now to contend next season. They were really good until Suggs went down and Bane gives them the 3pt shooting they needed.

[kodo]

There was a lot of Coby to Orlando smoke, but I'm sure Orlando had the same issues we do about Coby...he can walk in UFA no matter how much you offer him. Bane is locked up for many years. Orlando probably wasn't that interested for the same reasons we keep talking about trading Coby ourselves.

[HomoSapien]

Trades are not usually allowed to be finished during the finals but I would chalk this up to finals ratings being low and an attempt to generate more buzz during this time

I think you're technically allowed ti start making trades once you've been eliminated from the playoffs. They can't just adjust the rules mid playoffs.

[sco]

There was a lot of Coby to Orlando smoke, but I'm sure Orlando had the same issues we do about Coby...he can walk in UFA no matter how much you offer him. Bane is locked up for many years. Orlando probably wasn't that interested for the same reasons we keep talking about trading Coby ourselves.

That and Bane > Coby.

[nomorezorro]

yeah it is an incredibly bulls-centric view of the world to assume orlando made this move based on any feelings they had about coby white, as opposed to them just thinking "we really want desmond bane so we will go out and get him"

[drosestruts]

People love picks till they actually become a player.

No one says - Wow Chicago traded LaVine for two 1st round players and a 2nd round player

You quickly just become Zach Collins and Kevin Huerter and Tre Jones


Chicago turned an undrafted player into the 6th overall pick!!

[MGB8]

yeah i think it's understated how much moving off KCP factored into that deal. orlando basically couldn't do anything this significant without shedding that contract and i doubt there were many teams eager to take it on

Agreed. Shedding KCP probably is 2 of those firsts.

[Chi town]

yeah i think it's understated how much moving off KCP factored into that deal. orlando basically couldn't do anything this significant without shedding that contract and i doubt there were many teams eager to take it on

Agreed. Shedding KCP probably is 2 of those firsts.

Just goes to show you that signing the right guys at the right price is so crucial.

Here’s to Pat returning to solid boring 3D wing worth his money.

[Ice Man]

People love picks till they actually become a player.

Truer words were never spoken.

[Indomitable]

Bane is better than Zach and has been for 2 seasons now. He also makes a bit less than Zach.

No he was not

Zach shot better last season
Zach was a much better 3 pt percentage
Zach scored more and is a more natural shooter.

Bane is younger.
https://stathead.com/basketball/versus-finder.cgi?player_id2=lavinza01&year_min=2025&player_id1=banede01&seasons_type=forall&request=1&utm_source=bbr&utm_id=banede01&utm_campaign=2023_01_wdgt_player_comparison&utm_medium=sr_xsite

Zach is a better volume scorer, but that's it. Bane is the superior passer and playmaker, turns the ball over less, is a better rebounder, and is the better defender.

Spoiler:

Bane has never stopped anybody. His defense is a result of actually the result of having the reigning defensive player of the year.

[Indomitable]

People love picks till they actually become a player.

Truer words were never spoken.

People love assets and creates flexibility.

[Chi town]

No he was not

Zach shot better last season
Zach was a much better 3 pt percentage
Zach scored more and is a more natural shooter.

Bane is younger.
https://stathead.com/basketball/versus-finder.cgi?player_id2=lavinza01&year_min=2025&player_id1=banede01&seasons_type=forall&request=1&utm_source=bbr&utm_id=banede01&utm_campaign=2023_01_wdgt_player_comparison&utm_medium=sr_xsite

Zach is a better volume scorer, but that's it. Bane is the superior passer and playmaker, turns the ball over less, is a better rebounder, and is the better defender.

Spoiler:

Bane has never stopped anybody. His defense is a result of actually the result of having the reigning defensive player of the year.

I tend to agree. I think Coby is just as good at defense if he had better defenders around him. Bane never had Vuc.

[Indomitable]

Zach is a better volume scorer, but that's it. Bane is the superior passer and playmaker, turns the ball over less, is a better rebounder, and is the better defender.

Spoiler:

Bane has never stopped anybody. His defense is a result of actually the result of having the reigning defensive player of the year.

I tend to agree. I think Coby is just as good at defense if he had better defenders around him. Bane never had Vuc.

The Bulls defense improved once we got Matais and Zach in there. It was disgraceful.

[2weekswithpay]

No he was not

Zach shot better last season
Zach was a much better 3 pt percentage
Zach scored more and is a more natural shooter.

Bane is younger.
https://stathead.com/basketball/versus-finder.cgi?player_id2=lavinza01&year_min=2025&player_id1=banede01&seasons_type=forall&request=1&utm_source=bbr&utm_id=banede01&utm_campaign=2023_01_wdgt_player_comparison&utm_medium=sr_xsite

Zach is a better volume scorer, but that's it. Bane is the superior passer and playmaker, turns the ball over less, is a better rebounder, and is the better defender.

Spoiler:

Bane has never stopped anybody. His defense is a result of actually the result of having the reigning defensive player of the year.

You can evaluate Bane's defense while accounting for teammates. Bane doesn't have to be a defensive stopper, not being a liability like Zach is enough. Zach playing for the Grizzlies isn't going to turn him into a good defender.

[burlydee]

NBA officiating is very disappointing. SGA seems to be playing under a different set of rules than everyone else.