JAilblazer v2 (Memphis - Portland)

Godaddycurse · Post #1 » by **Godaddycurse** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 5:37 pm

Memphis out: Morant
Portland out: Scoot, Simons, 11, MIL owed swaps and picks

Why for Portland: add a star PG to win now
Why for Memphis: get high variance post giannis prime picks and a recent lotto pick to headline their rebuild

BlazersBroncos · Post #2 » by **BlazersBroncos** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 5:48 pm

I cant see a team that was just put up for sale making a splash trade for a guy with as checkered a past as Morant.

Blazinaway · Post #3 » by **Blazinaway** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 5:50 pm

yep, not happening

JRoy · Post #4 » by **JRoy** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 5:54 pm

Zero interest from POR.

POR has been hypersensitive about players with off court issues since the Jailblazers ended.

The value is irrelevant. POR won’t acquire a guy like Morant or Williamson.

Post #5 » by **Texas Chuck** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:33 pm

I'll defer to the Portland posters on Ja specifically and their willingness to touch him. But I think this is the sort of deal Portland should be looking for. Add a star to the mix and PG is the natural position.

esvl · Post #6 » by **esvl** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:04 pm

POR should not do it. I see Simons’ face as a the franchise and city face. Ja clearly doesn’t fit.

JRoy · Post #7 » by **JRoy** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:11 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:I'll defer to the Portland posters on Ja specifically and their willingness to touch him. But I think this is the sort of deal Portland should be looking for. Add a star to the mix and PG is the natural position.

No argument in terms of talent. I would be very surprised to see it happen.

Myth · Post #8 » by **Myth** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 8:01 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:I'll defer to the Portland posters on Ja specifically and their willingness to touch him. But I think this is the sort of deal Portland should be looking for. Add a star to the mix and PG is the natural position.

If it weren’t for his off court stuff, I think it would be a quick yes from Portland. Personally, I’d consider it anyway, but I don’t think the team would.

Myth · Post #9 » by **Myth** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 8:01 pm

esvl wrote:POR should not do it. I see Simons’ face as a the franchise and city face. Ja clearly doesn’t fit.

This hurt my soul.

Godaddycurse · Post #10 » by **Godaddycurse** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 8:12 pm

Yea i didnt think it would be received well by Portland FO/fanbases... but i couldn't resist the pun

Case2012 · Post #11 » by **Case2012** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 8:18 pm

Portland should do the opposite and load up on picks by sending Deni for 3 of those picks and Wells or Clarke to Memphis to replace Bane. Deni is on a descending deal that pays out 12 million in 3 years when the cap is gonna be 240 million. He put up 20, 8 and 6 on 63 TS the last half of the season. I expect him to up those numbers even more as number one option next year in Portland, but i think he's more of a number 3 on a good team -- enter Memphis with JJJ and Ja.

They'll probably trying to get Giannis or KD, but i don't think that's happening. Deni would be a good fallback but they're gonna have to pony up a godfather deal after what they sold Bane for and the performance Deni had after the deadline.

Knicks365247 · Post #12 » by **Knicks365247** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 8:41 pm

I’d love Deni on the Knicks and with his contract, a lot of contenders should be looking to acquire him.

JRoy · Post #13 » by **JRoy** » Mon Jun 16, 2025 8:58 pm

Knicks365247 wrote:I’d love Deni on the Knicks and with his contract, a lot of contenders should be looking to acquire him.

NYK not really a great trading partner for POR.

BarbaGrizz · Post #14 » by **BarbaGrizz** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:00 am

Case2012 wrote:Portland should do the opposite and load up on picks by sending Deni for 3 of those picks and Wells or Clarke to Memphis to replace Bane. Deni is on a descending deal that pays out 12 million in 3 years when the cap is gonna be 240 million. He put up 20, 8 and 6 on 63 TS the last half of the season. I expect him to up those numbers even more as number one option next year in Portland, but i think he's more of a number 3 on a good team -- enter Memphis with JJJ and Ja.

They'll probably trying to get Giannis or KD, but i don't think that's happening. Deni would be a good fallback but they're gonna have to pony up a godfather deal after what they sold Bane for and the performance Deni had after the deadline.

The offer is Deni for Clarke + three 1sts? Because that´s an easy yes for Memphis

Post #15 » by **DaVoiceMaster** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:31 am

BarbaGrizz wrote:
Case2012 wrote:Portland should do the opposite and load up on picks by sending Deni for 3 of those picks and Wells or Clarke to Memphis to replace Bane. Deni is on a descending deal that pays out 12 million in 3 years when the cap is gonna be 240 million. He put up 20, 8 and 6 on 63 TS the last half of the season. I expect him to up those numbers even more as number one option next year in Portland, but i think he's more of a number 3 on a good team -- enter Memphis with JJJ and Ja.

They'll probably trying to get Giannis or KD, but i don't think that's happening. Deni would be a good fallback but they're gonna have to pony up a godfather deal after what they sold Bane for and the performance Deni had after the deadline.

The offer is Deni for Clarke + three 1sts? Because that´s an easy yes for Memphis

That is an easy yes for Memphis, but an easy no for Portland.

JRoy · Post #16 » by **JRoy** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:32 am

DaVoiceMaster wrote:
BarbaGrizz wrote:
Case2012 wrote:Portland should do the opposite and load up on picks by sending Deni for 3 of those picks and Wells or Clarke to Memphis to replace Bane. Deni is on a descending deal that pays out 12 million in 3 years when the cap is gonna be 240 million. He put up 20, 8 and 6 on 63 TS the last half of the season. I expect him to up those numbers even more as number one option next year in Portland, but i think he's more of a number 3 on a good team -- enter Memphis with JJJ and Ja.

They'll probably trying to get Giannis or KD, but i don't think that's happening. Deni would be a good fallback but they're gonna have to pony up a godfather deal after what they sold Bane for and the performance Deni had after the deadline.

The offer is Deni for Clarke + three 1sts? Because that´s an easy yes for Memphis

That is an easy yes for Memphis, but an easy no for Portland.

That’s pretty much breaking even for what POR paid; pointless.

Dame Lizard · Post #17 » by **Dame Lizard** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:59 am

JRoy wrote:
DaVoiceMaster wrote:
BarbaGrizz wrote:
The offer is Deni for Clarke + three 1sts? Because that´s an easy yes for Memphis

That is an easy yes for Memphis, but an easy no for Portland.

That’s pretty much breaking even for what POR paid; pointless.

Deni is worth that + an additional 1st.

I know some people will think that it's a lot for Deni. But when you consider that he's nearly as good as Bane is, and is paid $30m less per season, it's fair.

The key is finding a good trading partner - I think Memphis makes a lot of sense. Spurs are another party.

esvl · Post #18 » by **esvl** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 1:37 pm

JRoy wrote:
DaVoiceMaster wrote:
BarbaGrizz wrote:
The offer is Deni for Clarke + three 1sts? Because that´s an easy yes for Memphis

That is an easy yes for Memphis, but an easy no for Portland.

That’s pretty much breaking even for what POR paid; pointless.

What about
3 unprotected 1sts (via MEM or ORL)
Cole (exp.)
GG Jackson

JRoy · Post #19 » by **JRoy** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 1:54 pm

esvl wrote:
JRoy wrote:
DaVoiceMaster wrote:
That is an easy yes for Memphis, but an easy no for Portland.

That’s pretty much breaking even for what POR paid; pointless.

What about
3 unprotected 1sts (via MEM or ORL)
Cole (exp.)
GG Jackson

No indication either ORL or MEM are going to have good picks to offer and the players are irrelevant.

esvl · Post #20 » by **esvl** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:39 pm

JRoy wrote:
esvl wrote:
JRoy wrote:
That’s pretty much breaking even for what POR paid; pointless.

What about
3 unprotected 1sts (via MEM or ORL)
Cole (exp.)
GG Jackson

No indication either ORL or MEM are going to have good picks to offer and the players are irrelevant.

How much indication did you see years before that Atlanta with Young or Dallas with Doncic will get #1?