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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 continued x2 

Post#321 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Jun 16, 2025 5:59 pm

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navyblue wrote:10 players making $199 mil, 2nd apron is $207

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Dump Tucker and that gives an additional 3.5mil. He's the 12th man. They forgot to add McCullars too. Not sure how accurate these numbers are.

Tucker is a team option. I can't imagine they pay him 3.5 mio as a 15th man.


Yeah. Dump Tucker.

Brunson/Deuce/Kolek
Mikal/McC
Hart/Pac Daddy
OG
KAT/Mitch/Huk

That's 11 players. Not sure what the apron space is yet though.
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Post#322 » by spree2kawhi » Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:16 pm

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kNicksGmen wrote:I don't think this is official yet is it? The cap is expected to go up 10% I think - and they didn't release the official number(s) yet right?

these are factoring in the new cap numbers. this year the 2nd aprn was $189 mil., in 25-26 its $207

Got it - so if they cut PJ it's around 196 - so they had 11 mil of room. Otherwise only around 8.

So it seems like it's room for 1 player at the taxpayer MLE (5.7) and then maybe 2 vet mins.

Does the taxpayer MLE lock them into not being able to then go over the 2nd apron? It's not even that much more than the vet min really so not sure they'll use it unless they have to. Not sure how it works if they partially use it either.
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thebuzzardman wrote:Replacing Hart in the starting lineup

We don’t need any trades for that:

Mitch
Towns
OG
Bridges
Brunson

Hart
DiVincenzo
Horford
etc.

Mitch's health is always a concern - horford would be a great pickup but not sure what his motivation would be to come here. And he looks semi washed in the playoffs. With our luck he would be fully washed for us and shoot like 28% from 3 and no longer be able to move his feet lol

His personal connection with Towns and their shared heritage.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 continued x2 

Post#323 » by Juco24 » Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:18 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:Memphis isn't trading JJJ.

Outside of free agency, I don't see any huge changes to this group. We just need to address areas of concern.

We need to add another wing and another ball handler. What else?

Replacing Hart in the starting lineup

We don’t need any trades for that:

Mitch
Towns
OG
Bridges
Brunson

Hart
DiVincenzo
Horford
etc.


Agreed... and I'd think Dadiet, Huk and Kolek should be able to contribute. Haven't mentioned Deuce yet.
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Post#324 » by TheGreenArrow » Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:19 pm

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Post#325 » by JayTWill » Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:22 pm

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“Since hiring Leon Rose in 2020, the Knicks' front office has utilized its relationships often for the team's benefit. One example was hiring Jackson Jr.'s father, Jaren Jackson Sr., as an assistant coach for the Westchester G-League affiliate in 2021. From that January to May 2023, the elder Jackson served on Derrick Alston and Rose-favorite DeSagna Diop's staff.

Jackson Jr. is a former Creative Artists Agency client of Rose. The University of the Incarnate Word added Jackson Sr. to their men's basketball staff in 2023, ending his Knicks tenure

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The Knicks' front office has become infamous for its confident approaches to recruiting. It's unlikely that the franchise expected Jackson Jr. to demand a trade because of their sideline addition in Westchester. But sources familiar with the situation tell ClutchPoints that at least one key member of the Knicks' front office has long been interested in Jackson Jr. as a trade target.

The Knicks' acquisition of Karl-Anthony Towns last offseason didn't nullify this interest, either. League sources say that a Jackson Jr. and Karl-Anthony Towns frontcourt would be a ‘dream' pairing for New York in their starting lineup.

Whether or not the Grizzlies would move Jackson Jr. remains to be seen. It presented as unlikely going into the offseason, but the Bane deal with Orlando was ‘a rebuild trade‘ according to ESPN's Brian Windhorst. Would Memphis move the two-time NBA All-Star big to punt on competing in the loaded Western Conference?

Knicks want JJJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Follow the tea leaves (based on my impressions):


1.Knicks prefer to keep KAT

2. Knicks more willing to move some combo Bridges, Hart ,Mitch , and maybe McBride.

3. They prefer not to but would move OG instead of Bridges if they had to.

4. Memphis on a potential fire sale

5. JJJ is CAA and on last year of deal, doesn't qualify for supermax and therefore Memphis leverage over him is somewhat diminished.



*What does that add up to?

*Does Memphis favor players or picks?



If it's picks, you figure out:

1. who wants Bridges the most (we know Houston loves him) and get 3-4 FRPS picks for him.
2. You then get as much as you can for 1 or 2 other guys of Mitch, Hart, McBride (1 to 2 more FRPs depending on quality of the FRP)
3. Send that package over to Memphis along with salary matching players AND your 2026 #1 and a couple 2's as well.


If it's Bridges + they prefer:

1. You send them Bridges and one of Hart, Mitch or McBride (whatever they want most) AND your 2026 #1 and a couple 2's as well
2. Or You send them Bridges then get a pick or two for one of Hart, Mitch or McBride from a 3rd team and then send those picks to Memphis AND your 2026 #1 and a couple 2's as well


I can follow the logic in this trade for all parties involved even if it may be unlikely a lot more easily some of your previous proposals where Memphis didn't feel like they could get a better offer for an expiring JJJ than an expiring Mikal or Mikal would extend early to join a team that just traded away Banes and JJJ instead of pushing to stay in New York.

I still feel like Memphis is going to bring JJJ back but if they did decide to rebuild a 3 team deal could work between Houston, New York and Memphis although I have JJJ having more value than Mikal so the Knicks would have to find a way to make up the gap in value. I'm still not sure why you keep mentioning the Knicks sending out their 2026 1st since I don't believe it can be traded.

In the end if i'm Houston and JJJ is on the market i'm cutting out New York. I would much rather have the player that is 3 years younger and a stretch big that fits nicely between Amen while he works on improving his shooting and possibly Sengun. If i'm Memphis i'm asking JJJ to open up his choices of destinations as all teams do. If i'm JJJ i'm very open to joining a young team on the rise with a great coach that is already very good with good depth and more assets to improve into the future.
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Post#326 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:23 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:Memphis isn't trading JJJ.

Outside of free agency, I don't see any huge changes to this group. We just need to address areas of concern.

We need to add another wing and another ball handler. What else?

Replacing Hart in the starting lineup

We don’t need any trades for that:

Mitch
Towns
OG
Bridges
Brunson

Hart
DiVincenzo
Horford
etc.


Mitch will only play 40 games if the Knicks are lucky. Who starts the other 40. Don't say Hart.
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Post#327 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:25 pm

Two of Dadiet, McCullars, Hukporti and Kolek need to emerge as legitimate bench players.

Not holding my breath on this for this season though.
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Post#328 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:34 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Two of Dadiet, McCullars, Hukporti and Kolek need to emerge as legitimate bench players.

Not holding my breath on this for this season though.


They all showed a little bit in the limited time they got this year. Possibly part of the reason Thibs is gone. Maybe the next HC is someone who will actually try to play the young guys/bench more. McCullars is still the biggest ? so far.

We definitely need at least one of them to pan out. Two would be better. Time will tell.
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Post#329 » by Fury » Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:40 pm

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Post#330 » by spree2kawhi » Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:45 pm

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damn lol

We should plan on Edwards bolting their winter too.
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Post#331 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:50 pm

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damn lol

We should plan on Edwards bolting their winter too.


KAT for Edwards!! :lol:
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Post#332 » by spree2kawhi » Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:54 pm

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damn lol

We should plan on Edwards bolting their winter too.


KAT for Edwards!! :lol:

I think that’s further down the road my man… don’t get too excited :lol:
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Post#333 » by spree2kawhi » Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:03 pm

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spree2kawhi wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Replacing Hart in the starting lineup

We don’t need any trades for that:

Mitch
Towns
OG
Bridges
Brunson

Hart
DiVincenzo
Horford
etc.


Mitch will only play 40 games if the Knicks are lucky. Who starts the other 40. Don't say Hart.

Why not Hart? We’re talking about an injury situation. You won’t get an all star starter off your bench. But Horford, Looney, Capela, Yabusele, Mamukelashvili, Bol Bol and of course Achiuwa are possible free agent options to bolster the front court.
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Post#334 » by DaGawd » Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:03 pm

suns probably asking for way too much for 37 year old durant, and they’ve backed themselves into a corner with the draft being a deadline for trading him so of course teams are low balling them
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Post#335 » by RHODEY » Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:09 pm

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Some can't even see logic due to a narrow perspective


Most will dismiss it because its kinda lopsided. I cant blame them...because who wants to be disappointed?



If Memphis wants picks then the trade above is right up their alley. We also know Houston has wanted Mikal for a while. Knicks extend CAA client and close friend to Rose in JJJ.

I like that trade from Houston's perspective but " some of their young pieces + picks to MEM" - need more detail on that , because you would have to expect MEM would want a very nice haul. Also are there other teams out there interested in JJJ and could they outbid us?
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Post#336 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:11 pm

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thebuzzardman wrote:Two of Dadiet, McCullars, Hukporti and Kolek need to emerge as legitimate bench players.

Not holding my breath on this for this season though.


They all showed a little bit in the limited time they got this year. Possibly part of the reason Thibs is gone. Maybe the next HC is someone who will actually try to play the young guys/bench more. McCullars is still the biggest ? so far.

We definitely need at least one of them to pan out. Two would be better. Time will tell.


Huk and Kolek i think are gonna work out based off of what we saw from them. I'd still bring in a veteran ball handler though for the backcourt
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Post#337 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:14 pm

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Most will dismiss it because its kinda lopsided. I cant blame them...because who wants to be disappointed?



If Memphis wants picks then the trade above is right up their alley. We also know Houston has wanted Mikal for a while. Knicks extend CAA client and close friend to Rose in JJJ.

I like that trade from Houston's perspective but " some of their young pieces + picks to MEM" - need more detail on that , because you would have to expect MEM would want a very nice haul. Also are there other teams out there interested in JJJ and could they outbid us?


Because Knixinsix wants it to happen. He's speaking it into existence!! He has magic powers! Or he is actually Leon Rose!! :lol:
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Post#338 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:15 pm

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damn lol

We should plan on Edwards bolting their winter too.


KAT for Edwards!! :lol:


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Post#339 » by RHODEY » Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:16 pm

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RHODEY wrote:
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If Memphis wants picks then the trade above is right up their alley. We also know Houston has wanted Mikal for a while. Knicks extend CAA client and close friend to Rose in JJJ.

I like that trade from Houston's perspective but " some of their young pieces + picks to MEM" - need more detail on that , because you would have to expect MEM would want a very nice haul. Also are there other teams out there interested in JJJ and could they outbid us?


Because Knixinsix wants it to happen. He's speaking it into existence!! He has magic powers! Or he is actually Leon Rose!! :lol:


I want it to happen too! But maybe just maybe we'll have the leverage to pull it off...barbecue I don't think we'll be able to beat every other team's offers outright.
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Post#340 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:16 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
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thebuzzardman wrote:Two of Dadiet, McCullars, Hukporti and Kolek need to emerge as legitimate bench players.

Not holding my breath on this for this season though.


They all showed a little bit in the limited time they got this year. Possibly part of the reason Thibs is gone. Maybe the next HC is someone who will actually try to play the young guys/bench more. McCullars is still the biggest ? so far.

We definitely need at least one of them to pan out. Two would be better. Time will tell.


Huk and Kolek i think are gonna work out based off of what we saw from them. I'd still bring in a veteran ball handler though for the backcourt


Yeah. From what we were able to see. Not sure what the new HC will do but, if he has any sort of offense we may see a few players take a leap of some kind. We may also see the team as a whole play better. That's the gamble.
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