Joel: unchained.

[Stanford]

60+ days out from surgery. Team said he would be re-evaluated 6 weeks from surgery. No updates. Not a good sign. If his knee were looking good, wouldn't they be quick to mention it?

I don't see why they would say anything.

[M2J]

60+ days out from surgery. Team said he would be re-evaluated 6 weeks from surgery. No updates. Not a good sign. If his knee were looking good, wouldn't they be quick to mention it?

I don't see why they would say anything.

Morey did a press run recently and kept sitting the surgeon and said Joel is recovering nicely. The issue is prolonged play and swelling from that play. When the treatment plan was a cleanup and extremely extended rest.

I don't know what anybody would expect to hear

[M2J]

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[ProcessDoctor]

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Terrific interview, especially caught my attention at the scrimmage discussion with Billy Cunningham.

Sad, but it's time for a culture change. Maxey calling him out last year spoke volumes.

[elchengue20]

What do you expect?

We should have traded him years ago, now it's too late.

And we even extended him for 59M+ a year for multiple seasons. This franchise is doomed.

[mjkvol]

What do you expect?

We should have traded him years ago, now it's too late.

And we even extended him for 59M+ a year for multiple seasons. This franchise is doomed.

Not necessarily. Some good young talent, an incoming lottery pick, and some draft capital - if sanity takes over, and with some patience and the right moves made moving forward, this situation can be salvaged.

If the idea is to continue to pretend that Embiid and George are viable, winning NBA players to build around, then you are correct, they are doomed.

[the_process]

What do you expect?

We should have traded him years ago, now it's too late.

And we even extended him for 59M+ a year for multiple seasons. This franchise is doomed.

There is still an opportunity to move on and free the franchise from Embiid's broken shadow.

However, Morey will have to realize Joel is no longer a even a star, and adjust the asking price accordingly.

[Negrodamus]

I might’ve made my hot take elsewhere, but I’ll say it again: I don’t think Embiid is completely fried. He looked fine albeit slow in the Olympics. Gave Jokic hell. He comes back after a short summer and played like doo doo comparative to his usual play. I don’t think he’s going to be MVP form, but I still think he’ll be 25ppg form with more games resting. Maybe I’m completely in delusional land.

[Stanford]

I might’ve made my hot take elsewhere, but I’ll say it again: I don’t think Embiid is completely fried. He looked fine albeit slow in the Olympics. Gave Jokic hell. He comes back after a short summer and played like doo doo comparative to his usual play. I don’t think he’s going to be MVP form, but I still think he’ll be 25ppg form with more games resting. Maybe I’m completely in delusional land.

I feel the same way. I just like the guy, I guess.

[Arsenal]

I might’ve made my hot take elsewhere, but I’ll say it again: I don’t think Embiid is completely fried. He looked fine albeit slow in the Olympics. Gave Jokic hell. He comes back after a short summer and played like doo doo comparative to his usual play. I don’t think he’s going to be MVP form, but I still think he’ll be 25ppg form with more games resting. Maybe I’m completely in delusional land.

He put up 30 & 10 in a tough playoff series against the Knicks post-injury before the Olympics. Not sure what happened after that but I’m hoping he can get back there.

[mjkvol]

I'm hoping for the miracle that Embiid will come back accepting a lesser role, if he's capable of that. If he is relatively healthy and focuses on being DPOY and more of a Duncan-esque role offensively, the sky's the limit, and it accelerates the timeline where we can seriously compete. I'm not sure that Nurse is the coach to bring that out of him.

[M2J]

I'm hoping for the miracle that Embiid will come back accepting a lesser role, if he's capable of that. If he is relatively healthy and focuses on being DPOY and more of a Duncan-esque role offensively, the sky's the limit, and it accelerates the timeline where we can seriously compete. I'm not sure that Nurse is the coach to bring that out of him.

Ace will put him in his place, no worries

[the_process]

I'm hoping for the miracle that Embiid will come back accepting a lesser role, if he's capable of that. If he is relatively healthy and focuses on being DPOY and more of a Duncan-esque role offensively, the sky's the limit, and it accelerates the timeline where we can seriously compete. I'm not sure that Nurse is the coach to bring that out of him.

Morey in his interview with the Ricky already basically said that Joel was not gonna do that.

[mjkvol]

I'm hoping for the miracle that Embiid will come back accepting a lesser role, if he's capable of that. If he is relatively healthy and focuses on being DPOY and more of a Duncan-esque role offensively, the sky's the limit, and it accelerates the timeline where we can seriously compete. I'm not sure that Nurse is the coach to bring that out of him.

Ace will put him in his place, no worries

I only hope we don't have to find out.

[mjkvol]

I'm hoping for the miracle that Embiid will come back accepting a lesser role, if he's capable of that. If he is relatively healthy and focuses on being DPOY and more of a Duncan-esque role offensively, the sky's the limit, and it accelerates the timeline where we can seriously compete. I'm not sure that Nurse is the coach to bring that out of him.

Morey in his interview with the Ricky already basically said that Joel was not gonna do that.

I remember you posting that, which is why I referred to the possibility as a miracle. If what Morey said is true, then the best we can hope for is that he plays well enough for another team to want to take a shot at him.

[the_process]

Or trade him now and be ahead of the curve for the first time since Hinkie?

[mjkvol]

Or trade him now and be ahead of the curve for the first time since Hinkie?

Are you willing to pay to trade him, because that's the only way it has even the slightest chance of happening.

[Negrodamus]

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I listened to a different clip a few days ago where Shaq said "My signature move which was elbowing the guy in the head and getting to the rim".... For some reason, for all the basketball he watches, he can't wrap his head around that his style of play is absolutely impossible in today's game. And Embiid has tried it in the past. Sometimes it works, sometimes it's an offensive foul.

[Stanford]

[Zumramania]

Embiid could return and wreak havoc in a lesser role, but if he still thinks he is the main star...that is a path toward frustration and early medical retirement.