Dwight vs Kobe (peak only)

[bigboi]

Kobe, better question would be Kobe vs D-Rob.

Kobe, wtf lmao. DRob wasn’t even sniffing a ring without Duncan

[GSP]

Kobe, better question would be Kobe vs D-Rob.

Kobe, wtf lmao. DRob wasn’t even sniffing a ring without Duncan

Robinson had some of the worst supporting casts ever for a superstar pre Timmy. I mean who was the best player he played w/ Sean Elliott or Terry Cummings Or 2 seasons of Rodman sabotaging the team and lowering his stock so bad that no one wanted him and Bulls got him for Will Perdue

[tsherkin]

You say some of the dumbest nonsense I’ve ever seen. Kobe averaged 32/6/7. Cut the bs, this is getting clownish. Howard only averaged 15 a game that series and there was no doubt at any point who the best player was, Kobe and it was NEVER close

Super nice that you're able to stay courteous in disagreement, as always.

There is such a thing as defense. Dwight averaged 15/15 in a well-distributed offense.

Yes, Kobe chucked up enough shots to get 32 ppg on under 53% TS and that worked out, but Pau, Odom, Ariza and Bynum owning the offensive glass was actually the big reason the Lakers were able to take that series. You should probably re-watch that at some point and see what their forwards and centers were doing. It was quite impressive. Same sort of thing which happened versus Boston the year after, as it happens.

[Tim Lehrbach]

Dwight isn’t anywhere near Kobe

Kobe is a 95 / 96

Dwights peak prime was around 92/93

What do these numbers mean?

Peak MJ is a 100

Worst player of all time is a 1

A 1 point difference is the difference between All NBA first and All NBA 2nd on average

So there is a formula being applied, then? Can you share it? Did you set 100 at the highest result after calculating it for all players, or did Jordan just happen to achieve a perfect score?

[bigboi]

Kobe, better question would be Kobe vs D-Rob.

Kobe, wtf lmao. DRob wasn’t even sniffing a ring without Duncan

Robinson had some of the worst supporting casts ever for a superstar pre Timmy. I mean who was the best player he played w/ Sean Elliott or Terry Cummings Or 2 seasons of Rodman sabotaging the team and lowering his stock so bad that no one wanted him and Bulls got him for Will Perdue

Perennial first and second round exit, miss me with the bs. Houston was a 6th seed when spurs lost. Year before, Robinson shot only 40% as a center. Stop it

[mdonnelly1989]

What do these numbers mean?

Peak MJ is a 100

Worst player of all time is a 1

A 1 point difference is the difference between All NBA first and All NBA 2nd on average

So there is a formula being applied, then? Can you share it? Did you set 100 at the highest result after calculating it for all players, or did Jordan just happen to achieve a perfect score?

No it’s my own formula but I did make one with AI a few months ago

[bigboi]

You say some of the dumbest nonsense I’ve ever seen. Kobe averaged 32/6/7. Cut the bs, this is getting clownish. Howard only averaged 15 a game that series and there was no doubt at any point who the best player was, Kobe and it was NEVER close

Super nice that you're able to stay courteous in disagreement, as always.

There is such a thing as defense. Dwight averaged 15/15 in a well-distributed offense.

Yes, Kobe chucked up enough shots to get 32 ppg on under 53% TS and that worked out, but Pau, Odom, Ariza and Bynum owning the offensive glass was actually the big reason the Lakers were able to take that series. You should probably re-watch that at some point and see what their forwards and centers were doing. It was quite impressive. Same sort of thing which happened versus Boston the year after, as it happens.

They lost in FIVE. What are you talking about here? Dwight got completely shut down when he got to the Lakers. Orlando wouldn’t even have made it past the second round if KG was healthy either which is the funny thing. Kobe thoroughly outplayed Dwight in the Finals and performed better throughout the playoffs. TS doesn’t matter, that’s what you don’t get and shows you’ve never actually played basketball in your life. Dwight Howard had a higher TS and no one would ever call Dwight a better scorer than Kobe, Dwight was a piss poor scorer despite his stats because his offensive skill set was weak and he heavily relied on others for creating plays for him. Lakers offense was set up for Kobe to be a volume shooter, the offense worked because he drew so much defensive attention. You sound extremely silly right now.

Kobe went to the Finals THREE times in a row while Dwight never came close to sniffing the Finals again. Kobe is much better and it isn’t even close and has never been close.

[tsherkin]

TS doesn’t matter, that’s what you don’t get and shows you’ve never actually played basketball in your life.

No, that's your personal assumption. I've actually played quite a lot of basketball in my life. And coached.

LA was a better team. It's that simple. Kobe had a rough series, like he often did in the Finals, but his frontcourt helped carry him, and Dwight struggled a lot with Bynum, it's true. Because he was a limited scorer, for sure. But he was a fantastic defender and rebounder.

You sound extremely silly right now.[/qoute]

You need to stop making this personal and focus on the basketball.

Kobe went to the Finals THREE times in a row while Dwight never came close to sniffing the Finals again. Kobe is much better and it isn’t even close and has never been close.

So, Dwight had two more seasons, then a back injury back from which he rushed in order to play with Kobe and wasn't really the same after.

In 2010, they were back in the ECFs, so "never been close" is flatly wrong. And of course the Magic were ravaged by injuries in the 2011 regular season, and then Dwight logged about 27/16 on the Hawks and they still lost, so that one wasn't really on him. Jameer Nelson was useless, as was Hedo, as was Jason Richardson (and he didn't even play the whole series).

Context is important, man.

But you want to sit here slinging insults and all that, and I'm not about it. So you have a good night.

[Ol Roy]

Kobe, better question would be Kobe vs D-Rob.

Kobe, wtf lmao. DRob wasn’t even sniffing a ring without Duncan

When did Kobe sniff a ring without a great big man like Shaq and Pau?

David plus a legitimate perimeter star to help set him up would have easily been in contention during his prime.

[bigboi]

Kobe, better question would be Kobe vs D-Rob.

Kobe, wtf lmao. DRob wasn’t even sniffing a ring without Duncan

When did Kobe sniff a ring without a great big man like Shaq and Pau?

David plus a legitimate perimeter star to help set him up would have easily been in contention during his prime.

Are you kidding me?

Gasol was SWEPT every time he made it to the playoffs prior to Kobe. And didn’t even make the playoffs for 2 years straight prior to going on the lakers. Gasol made it to the all star game once prior to the lakers and was never considered for any allnba awards. Kobe made Gasol not the other way around, stop it. Shaq is a GOAT, so nothing to take away from him. Kobe lead the Lakers to THREE straight NBA finals, you literally 0 argument