With OKC winning a NBA title, Presti is going to complete what Hinkie wasn't allowed to

[WestGOAT]

Same rebuilding approach.

Same shrewdness when it came to collecting draft picks and trade assets.

Same willingness to sacrifice shorter-term mid success in favour for bigger potential dynasty in the future.

Difference was that Hinkie was too blatant while Presti did it more "stealthy".

It is a shame that the NBA sabotaged the 76ers front office, they had just as much assets to build a potential dynasty only to have it fumbled by nepotistic practise by the Colangelos.

[rand]

Is it Thursday night already?

[druggas]

No comparison.

[lethalizer]

1) The series isn't over yet.

2) OKC tanked a grand total of two seasons, by the time the third season came around, even with Chet injured for his full rookie year, they made the play in and won 40 games.

3) Philly meanwhile, bottomed out with 10 freaking wins during the third year of "process".

If you think these two situations are remotely the same, I don't know what to tell you.

PS: Even in their tanking seasons Thunder never had the worst record in the NBA, and they never finished a season with less than 20 wins. Philly did this three times, consecutively.

[Saints14]

Count me among the fans who thought Hinkie was done dirty and that he could have built something really special if he wasn't sabotaged. But in addition to starting his rebuild with SGA, Presti also had way more of a vision of the kind of team he wanted to build, the archetypes of players he wanted to bring in. Hinkie kind of just shrugged and took "BPA" hoping that everything would work out in the end. The teardown was similar, but the OKC buildup was much more deliberate

[bovice]

Count me among the fans who thought Hinkie was done dirty and that he could have built something really special if he wasn't sabotaged. But in addition to starting his rebuild with SGA, Presti also had way more of a vision of the kind of team he wanted to build, the archetypes of players he wanted to bring in. Hinkie kind of just shrugged and took "BPA" hoping that everything would work out in the end. The teardown was similar, but the OKC buildup was much more deliberate

it's criminal what Brian Colangelo and Elton Brand did to Philly

[-Luke-]

By the way, what is Sam Hinkie doing these days? Did the NBA ban him from the league or why has no team ever touched him again?

[JayMKE]

Hinkie’s “process” was a big failure other than it capturing the imagination of a small subset of fans. It was just throwing **** at the wall and this “genius” could be done by any 12 year old playing 2K, since it was not like he had a good eye for talent. Presti is an asset collector but he’s not a self promoting hack like Hinkie, he is actually good at his job.

They lucked into Embiid being red flagged in the draft and being willing to wait years for him. Embiid is a great talent but ultimately there was never going to be a dynasty built around him no matter what.

[doogie_hauser]

Call me a cynic but Seattle SuperSonics fans have far more right to feel aggrieved about the probable incoming OKC Chip/Success than Salty Sixers fans

The 76ers brought most of their misfortune upon themselves with diabolical off court decisions and having misguided faith in an unstable and injury prone man-baby franchise player in Joel Embiid

No one screwed the Sixers but themselves

[kg01]

Hinkie’s “process” was a big failure other than it capturing the imagination of a small subset of fans. It was just throwing **** at the wall and this “genius” could be done by any 12 year old playing 2K, since it was not like he had a good eye for talent. Presti is an asset collector but he’s not a self promoting hack like Hinkie, he is actually good at his job.

Exactly all this.

When are people gonna take the cape off for Hinkie. The teardown is easy and takes absolutely no insight or skill.

Hinkie is held up as some martyr or something. It's silly.

[bbms]

their approach are nothing alike

presti's rebuild wasn't built on sucking for a high draft pick, was via trading players for multiple picks, then acquiring vets, rehabbing their value and trading again for more picks (cp3, schroeder, al horford, george hill), taking multiple dips in the teens range of the draft and most importantly

even if the thunder's fo was making moves to be worse on the floor, the players and coaching staff were never trying to lose. you watch sga and dort in those 20-21 and 21-22 seasons and you would never tell they weren't true competitors

[slick_watts]

Difference was that Hinkie was too blatant while Presti did it more "stealthy.

this isn't true. sam presti was 100% blatant about what he was doing. he told okc fans and media in press conferences what was going to happen. he got veterans like al horford to agree to being shut down for dozens of games and was brazen about the reasoning.

the difference between hinkie and presti is that presti simply made better decisions.

[dhsilv2]

1) The series isn't over yet.

2) OKC tanked a grand total of two seasons, by the time the third season came around, even with Chet injured for his full rookie year, they made the play in and won 40 games.

3) Philly meanwhile, bottomed out with 10 freaking wins during the third year of "process".

If you think these two situations are remotely the same, I don't know what to tell you.

PS: Even in their tanking seasons Thunder never had the worst record in the NBA, and they never finished a season with less than 20 wins. Philly did this three times, consecutively.

Hinkie tanked 3 seasons...by 2017 they were trying to be successful but Embiid was hurt. And worse Hinkie had clearly had someone force him into the Okafor pick as that was clearly not his kind of guy. The situations are more similar than people give credit for. People act like the 76ers were bad forever.

[Ice Man]

Say what? Hinkie did nothing but collect Top 3 draft picks, all of which proved either to be bad or injury prone. He brought in no meaningful talent except for signing TJ McConnell one summer. Meanwhile, Presti built a team by using only one Top 5 draft pick, Holmgren, who is very useful but truth is that OKC would still be the best team in the league without him.

Very different approaches.

[dhsilv2]

Count me among the fans who thought Hinkie was done dirty and that he could have built something really special if he wasn't sabotaged. But in addition to starting his rebuild with SGA, Presti also had way more of a vision of the kind of team he wanted to build, the archetypes of players he wanted to bring in. Hinkie kind of just shrugged and took "BPA" hoping that everything would work out in the end. The teardown was similar, but the OKC buildup was much more deliberate

Hinkie had absolutely NOTHING when he started. The 76ers had traded away their draft picks before he got there. He had Jrue and literally no picks or other assets.

The highest paid player on Hinki's first season was Danny Granger who'd been waived but was still on the cap.

So maybe he didn't have a vision, it's hard to say. He had no foundation what so ever to work with.

[dhsilv2]

By the way, what is Sam Hinkie doing these days? Did the NBA ban him from the league or why has no team ever touched him again?

Running some kinda hedge fund and I believe teaching at standford on the side. Must be tough.....lol

[Patches Perry]

Nice try jinxy

[dhsilv2]

Difference was that Hinkie was too blatant while Presti did it more "stealthy.

this isn't true. sam presti was 100% blatant about what he was doing. he told okc fans and media in press conferences what was going to happen. he got veterans like al horford to agree to being shut down for dozens of games and was brazen about the reasoning.

the difference between hinkie and presti is that presti simply made better decisions.

The biggest difference is Presti started with a vastly better situation.

[cgf]

OKC tanked hard, but if they went full process they would’ve sold SGA too.

[lethalizer]

1) The series isn't over yet.

2) OKC tanked a grand total of two seasons, by the time the third season came around, even with Chet injured for his full rookie year, they made the play in and won 40 games.

3) Philly meanwhile, bottomed out with 10 freaking wins during the third year of "process".

If you think these two situations are remotely the same, I don't know what to tell you.

PS: Even in their tanking seasons Thunder never had the worst record in the NBA, and they never finished a season with less than 20 wins. Philly did this three times, consecutively.

Hinkie tanked 3 seasons...by 2017 they were trying to be successful but Embiid was hurt. And worse Hinkie had clearly had someone force him into the Okafor pick as that was clearly not his kind of guy. The situations are more similar than people give credit for. People act like the 76ers were bad forever.

Yeah that was the fourth season, and they won 28 games.

Philly's three tanking seasons they won a combined 47 games.

OKC in two tanking seasons won a combined 46. And that's with the first season being a 72 game season.

Not remotely the same.