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2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft - Volume III

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What should we do at #3?

Ace Bailey
16
19%
Tre Johnson
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19%
V.J. Edgecombe
33
39%
Other
3
4%
Trade
17
20%
 
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Re: 2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft - Volume III 

Post#481 » by eyeatoma » Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:25 pm

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eyeatoma wrote:Aight, if Ace is acting like this, **** him. Give me Tre, or ugh VJ, much prefer us to go get Harper at this point, even though I have my doubts. Can't come out with a role player in this draft with. a high pick, so VJ is my last choice, and definitely don't want Kon and his lack of D.


Unfortunately, outside of Flagg they all going to be role players



I mean that's worst case scenario. But all the players I mentioned apart form Kon have star potential.
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Post#482 » by 76ciology » Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:26 pm

OleSchool wrote:To be fair to Bailey, the article did say "initially unsatisfied with a pathway to development"

I guess we can take that 2 ways.

Bailey recognizes he has flaws in his game, no matter what he says publicly and he doesn't have faith in the Sixers development team to coach out the flaws.

Or, assuming Embiid is healthy, along with PG he's going to be the 4th option offensively here. Embiid, PG, Maxey, Bailey


Sounds like its not just the Sixers, dawg.
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Re: 2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft - Volume III 

Post#483 » by OleSchool » Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:28 pm

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OleSchool wrote:To be fair to Bailey, the article did say "initially unsatisfied with a pathway to development"

I guess we can take that 2 ways.

Bailey recognizes he has flaws in his game, no matter what he says publicly and he doesn't have faith in the Sixers development team to coach out the flaws.

Or, assuming Embiid is healthy, along with PG he's going to be the 4th option offensively here. Embiid, PG, Maxey, Bailey


Sounds like its not just the Sixers, dawg.
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Re: 2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft - Volume III 

Post#484 » by stormi » Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:32 pm

76ciology wrote:
OleSchool wrote:To be fair to Bailey, the article did say "initially unsatisfied with a pathway to development"

I guess we can take that 2 ways.

Bailey recognizes he has flaws in his game, no matter what he says publicly and he doesn't have faith in the Sixers development team to coach out the flaws.

Or, assuming Embiid is healthy, along with PG he's going to be the 4th option offensively here. Embiid, PG, Maxey, Bailey


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And with this information, Eli John Ndiaye from Senegal has moved INTO the #200 spot on my big board completely knocking Ace Bailey from the list! :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
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Re: 2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft - Volume III 

Post#485 » by mjkvol » Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:33 pm

eyeatoma wrote:Aight, if Ace is acting like this, **** him. Give me Tre, or ugh VJ, much prefer us to go get Harper at this point, even though I have my doubts. Can't come out with a role player in this draft with. a high pick, so VJ is my last choice, and definitely don't want Kon and his lack of D.


Flagg is the only certain non-role player in this draft, including Harper. Give me the kind of rock solid role player that winning teams covet any day over a roll of the dice shot at a player with high bust potential. Yes, even at #3.

Best case scenario is a trade down that keeps us in the lottery and adds a pick, and still get KJ, KK, or VJ.
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Re: 2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft - Volume III 

Post#486 » by Mik317 » Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:35 pm

new Josh Jackson just dropped.

of course that means we trade up with the Spurs for Harper who suddenly gets dead leg and balloons to 300 pounds while the Spurs take VJ and really becomes the next Jordan somehow.
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Re: 2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft - Volume III 

Post#487 » by eyeatoma » Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:35 pm

mjkvol wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:Aight, if Ace is acting like this, **** him. Give me Tre, or ugh VJ, much prefer us to go get Harper at this point, even though I have my doubts. Can't come out with a role player in this draft with. a high pick, so VJ is my last choice, and definitely don't want Kon and his lack of D.


Flagg is the only certain non-role player in this draft, including Harper. Give me the kind of rock solid role player that winning teams covet any day over a roll of the dice shot at a player with high bust potential. Yes, even at #3.



With us straddling the line of whether Embiid will ever play again or not, I don't think you have that luxury. This pick needs to be a star if you can make it happen. It's why they are looking at Harper in the first place.
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Re: 2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft - Volume III 

Post#488 » by Covi_Marsh » Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:35 pm

Welp more “insiders” are reporting Ace is skipping workouts with teams. Looks like him and his agent are trying to force his way to a certain situation. Why couldn’t Harper refuse Spurs situation for ours smh
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Re: 2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft - Volume III 

Post#489 » by 76ciology » Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:35 pm

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eyeatoma wrote:Aight, if Ace is acting like this, **** him. Give me Tre, or ugh VJ, much prefer us to go get Harper at this point, even though I have my doubts. Can't come out with a role player in this draft with. a high pick, so VJ is my last choice, and definitely don't want Kon and his lack of D.


Unfortunately, outside of Flagg they all going to be role players


This guy turned out to be a star.



Strengths: Explosive athlete who plays with great energy and aggression on both ends of the floor … Fearless slasher, with potential to be dangerous as a transition player … Plays passing lanes very well, and has a great nose for the ball … Improved his jump shot considerably, known for having a fantastic work ethic … Improvement over the past year has been remarkable and a testament to his work ethic. Shows a great will to improve, by all reports a fantastic kid and considered very coachable … Quite strong, very good at playing prevent defense and establishing position … Shot selection was highly efficient, seemed to know his role and limitations … Has potential as a passer, though still keeps it quite simple … Follows shots really well, does not give up on plays and good at creating turnovers in the backcourt … Length and timing to block shots occasionally, good help defender … Worked on his handle and showed noticeable improvement during his final season … Potentially can become a player with blow by quickness due to his great speed … Pesky defender who prides himself on guarding the other team’s best perimeter scorer … Could guard multiple positions, even at the NBA level … Though he did not average over 30 mpg, conditioning and stamina appear to be top notch, should be able to log a good number of minutes

Weakness:

Despite improving his outside shot, had a very limited sample size from long distance and as a midrange jump shooter … Has a difficult time creating offense off of the dribble, and this is an area that arguable may not improve a ton … Has never been counted on as a featured offensive threat, something that will more than likely be expected of him in his current draft range … Despite his attacking nature and great athleticism, only got to the line for 3.6 FTA … Forced into a high number of turnovers, particularly when trying to create in isolation … No real go-to move as an offensive player, especially considering he will be going up against players close to his size, quickness in the NBA … More bark than bite?

He doesn’t have much of an offensive foundation at this point … Not much of a ball handler at this point … Can be out of control and turnover prone ……

Overall: At this point he’s more of a pure athlete then an offensive player, but he has time to grow there … Defensively he should be able to translate to the NBA quite easily


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Re: 2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft - Volume III 

Post#490 » by 76ciology » Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:36 pm

Covi_Marsh wrote:Welp more “insiders” are reporting Ace is skipping workouts with teams. Looks like him and his agent are trying to force his way to a certain situation. Why couldn’t Harper refuse Spurs situation for ours smh


Maybe he already got a promise from Nico Harrison
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Re: 2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft - Volume III 

Post#491 » by OleSchool » Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:36 pm

76ciology wrote:
OleSchool wrote:To be fair to Bailey, the article did say "initially unsatisfied with a pathway to development"

I guess we can take that 2 ways.

Bailey recognizes he has flaws in his game, no matter what he says publicly and he doesn't have faith in the Sixers development team to coach out the flaws.

Or, assuming Embiid is healthy, along with PG he's going to be the 4th option offensively here. Embiid, PG, Maxey, Bailey


Sounds like its not just the Sixers, dawg.
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That tweet doesn't make any sense. He's refusing to work out for several teams? What are the teams he's willing to work out for?

Then it says "he feels he's a top 3 player in this draft"

Well, we have the 3rd pick in this draft. So why doesn't he want to work out for us? I mean he's scheduled too but it sounds like he's hesitant to?

So is he willing to workout for Dallas and SAS???
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Re: 2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft - Volume III 

Post#492 » by 76ciology » Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:37 pm

OleSchool wrote:
76ciology wrote:
OleSchool wrote:To be fair to Bailey, the article did say "initially unsatisfied with a pathway to development"

I guess we can take that 2 ways.

Bailey recognizes he has flaws in his game, no matter what he says publicly and he doesn't have faith in the Sixers development team to coach out the flaws.

Or, assuming Embiid is healthy, along with PG he's going to be the 4th option offensively here. Embiid, PG, Maxey, Bailey


Sounds like its not just the Sixers, dawg.
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That tweet doesn't make any sense. He's refusing to work out for several teams? What are the teams he's willing to work out for?

Then it says "he feels he's a top 3 player in this draft"

Well, we have the 3rd pick in this draft. So why doesn't he want to work out for us? I mean he's scheduled too but it sounds like he's hesitant to?

So is he willing to workout for Dallas and SAS???


Maybe he already got a promise from Nico Harrison.
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Re: 2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft - Volume III 

Post#493 » by OleSchool » Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:37 pm

stormi wrote:
76ciology wrote:
OleSchool wrote:To be fair to Bailey, the article did say "initially unsatisfied with a pathway to development"

I guess we can take that 2 ways.

Bailey recognizes he has flaws in his game, no matter what he says publicly and he doesn't have faith in the Sixers development team to coach out the flaws.

Or, assuming Embiid is healthy, along with PG he's going to be the 4th option offensively here. Embiid, PG, Maxey, Bailey


Sounds like its not just the Sixers, dawg.
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And with this information, Eli John Ndiaye from Senegal has moved INTO the #200 spot on my big board completely knocking Ace Bailey from the list! :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:


Is that the kid with the 8ft wingspan? Lol
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Post#494 » by eyeatoma » Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:38 pm

Also if Ace is doing this, does that lower our chances of Harper, or are they more interested in someone like VJ or Tre Johnson, who fits what their team needs the most. IMO Ace would still be able to shine on the Spurs with Wemby and Fox.
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Post#495 » by OleSchool » Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:40 pm

Mik317 wrote:new Josh Jackson just dropped.

of course that means we trade up with the Spurs for Harper who suddenly gets dead leg and balloons to 300 pounds while the Spurs take VJ and really becomes the next Jordan somehow.


Baileys handle is way better than Josh's ever was

And excuse me but the next Jordan is VJ!! Come correct :evil:

Lol
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Re: 2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft - Volume III 

Post#496 » by OleSchool » Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:43 pm

76ciology wrote:
OleSchool wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:Aight, if Ace is acting like this, **** him. Give me Tre, or ugh VJ, much prefer us to go get Harper at this point, even though I have my doubts. Can't come out with a role player in this draft with. a high pick, so VJ is my last choice, and definitely don't want Kon and his lack of D.


Unfortunately, outside of Flagg they all going to be role players


This guy turned out to be a star.



Strengths: Explosive athlete who plays with great energy and aggression on both ends of the floor … Fearless slasher, with potential to be dangerous as a transition player … Plays passing lanes very well, and has a great nose for the ball … Improved his jump shot considerably, known for having a fantastic work ethic … Improvement over the past year has been remarkable and a testament to his work ethic. Shows a great will to improve, by all reports a fantastic kid and considered very coachable … Quite strong, very good at playing prevent defense and establishing position … Shot selection was highly efficient, seemed to know his role and limitations … Has potential as a passer, though still keeps it quite simple … Follows shots really well, does not give up on plays and good at creating turnovers in the backcourt … Length and timing to block shots occasionally, good help defender … Worked on his handle and showed noticeable improvement during his final season … Potentially can become a player with blow by quickness due to his great speed … Pesky defender who prides himself on guarding the other team’s best perimeter scorer … Could guard multiple positions, even at the NBA level … Though he did not average over 30 mpg, conditioning and stamina appear to be top notch, should be able to log a good number of minutes

Weakness:

Despite improving his outside shot, had a very limited sample size from long distance and as a midrange jump shooter … Has a difficult time creating offense off of the dribble, and this is an area that arguable may not improve a ton … Has never been counted on as a featured offensive threat, something that will more than likely be expected of him in his current draft range … Despite his attacking nature and great athleticism, only got to the line for 3.6 FTA … Forced into a high number of turnovers, particularly when trying to create in isolation … No real go-to move as an offensive player, especially considering he will be going up against players close to his size, quickness in the NBA … More bark than bite?

He doesn’t have much of an offensive foundation at this point … Not much of a ball handler at this point … Can be out of control and turnover prone ……

Overall: At this point he’s more of a pure athlete then an offensive player, but he has time to grow there … Defensively he should be able to translate to the NBA quite easily


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Re: 2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft - Volume III 

Post#497 » by OleSchool » Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:47 pm

eyeatoma wrote:Also if Ace is doing this, does that lower our chances of Harper, or are they more interested in someone like VJ or Tre Johnson, who fits what their team needs the most. IMO Ace would still be able to shine on the Spurs with Wemby and Fox.


IMO Ace or Tre would fit perfectly in SAS, more so Ace than Tre. They have enough defense to cover Tres ummmm shortcomings.

And SAS turn Kwahi into Kwahi so I think they could do the same for Bailey.

Ok maybe not Kwahi but allow Ace to reach his full potential
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Re: 2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft - Volume III 

Post#498 » by eyeatoma » Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:55 pm

OleSchool wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:Also if Ace is doing this, does that lower our chances of Harper, or are they more interested in someone like VJ or Tre Johnson, who fits what their team needs the most. IMO Ace would still be able to shine on the Spurs with Wemby and Fox.


IMO Ace or Tre would fit perfectly in SAS, more so Ace than Tre. They have enough defense to cover Tres ummmm shortcomings.

And SAS turn Kwahi into Kwahi so I think they could do the same for Bailey.

Ok maybe not Kwahi but allow Ace to reach his full potential



I agree, but my question is with this news, will Ace even workout for SAS.
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Post#499 » by youngcrev » Tue Jun 17, 2025 2:02 pm

Think Ace could be there at 35? Steal in the 2nd round!
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Post#500 » by the_process » Tue Jun 17, 2025 2:03 pm

So assuming this isn't all just smoke... Ace wants either SA because he thinks they will develop him to be the next Kawhi, or he wants WSH so he can jack up a million shots and be the man from the jump.

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