lilfishi22 wrote:Ghost of Kleine wrote:lilfishi22 wrote:
100%. And doing it for what? some crappy picks in this year's draft and something 6 years down the track?
Whether it comes as a surprise to anyone really,
we as a team aren't competing for anything notable anytime soon anyways. People need to try and be more open minded about our disadvantageous situation and look at these possibilities as acquiring other assets to make more moves in the future and create more flexibility with these different acquired assets. It's kind of about resetting our current asset/ trade timeline.
And even though this draft has seen a lot of premium talent withdraw from the draft, there's still some pretty intruiging talent that could be farmed at various ranges. Lastly, those picks 6 yrs down the line should carry very solid percieved value. Same as our 31' 1st was percieved to possess.
But either way, it's still a future asset that fan he moved purposefully if our front office is diligent at all?
So what's the point of Gobert and DDV lol
Give me the best package that puts us in the best position moving forward. The #17 pick doesn't beat the #10 pick Houston has and the 2nd rounder is nice but you could probably finesse one from Houston as well.
As for the 2032 pick, I'm not saying there's no value, I'm saying it's too difficult to predict what kind of value it might have. It's so far in the future from an NBA landscape standpoint, they could be contending in 2032 or Ant might have left Minny already and it's a good pick. Like it's just too far in the future to reliably predict whether this is a premium FRP or it's a bit of a whatever FRP
The "point" of Gobert and Di Vincenzo in our specific disadvantageous situation is most simply to turn KD (a premium asset with an limited/ expiring clock and subjective value conditions over age/ contract duration) into multiple other assets.
Assets with not only a longer window of control to possibly utilize in exploring various future moves, but to also remove those ridiculous argument conditions that teams are trying to leverage in order to suppress KDs' true value and get a top 15 all time star player for pennies on the dollar.
Additionally, adding greater variance of assets than our current very limited options in an aging KD, and then Allen and O'neale. But also, in the meantime getting a functional legitimate starting caliber defensive center that addresses some key needs for us with size, rebounding and rim protection. And who obviously fits the direction our franchise is said to he heading towards defensively.
And also get another proven floor spacer, proven depth piece with established value that's also a gritty physical player that fits what our new culture dynamic is said to be in Di Vincenzo.
Now again, if there are legitimately better offers, then of course you take those! But what if there aren't?? Kds' value isn't going to increase going forward in the season as his contract shortens even more and he ages further.
That's just more lost leverage. And now the entire league knows we're not intending in keeping him too. We need to move him this summer ASAP!! The longer we wait, the more leverage we lose and the worse our outcome.
As for thev10th pick being better than the 17th pick, I completely agree with you. And I'd love/ prefer to get Toronto's package of players and the 9th pick, Houston's players and the 10th pick, or even look to trade him to Atlanta for players package and the 23th and 22nd pick.
Or the San Antonio package IF they can up their offer to include Sochan and the Atlanta 27' 1st??? But absent those realities, IF were subject to what we're hearing (I believe it's mostly posturing) then the Minnesota package although not ideal, gives us legitimate options and addresses multiple needs for now.
And although I much rather get a higher asset, I could still work around the 17 and 31 picks in this draft with what I know of the remaining prospects still in this draft.
Lastly, for the 32' 1st. The idea behind it is that in being further out, it not only potentially carries escalated value as it's fairly common to have roster turnover and that team would likely look vastly different. With a number of key players likely being gone and Minnesota NOT being a prime free agency destination either. Both factors playing into a value escalation scenario for us.
But that pick would also give us an alternative option to replace our 31' 1st we idiotically surrendered for garbage late 1sts. And a potential premium option when Booker could likely be gone??
