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2025 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 – Capture the Flagg

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#261 » by ThePigeon » Tue Jun 17, 2025 12:34 pm

winsomme2 wrote:The more i think about it, unless someone surprising drops, I think we should take Kalkbrenner. HIs size and skill combination is too much to pass on.

I could see him being a late riser and not even be there. He really is a big.



His connection with Scheierman should also help
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Post#262 » by Hal14 » Tue Jun 17, 2025 12:38 pm

phincsfan wrote:If Penda is Kuminga 2.0 are you ok with that at 28?

What does one have to do with the other?

I see Penda as more of like a Nic Batum / Kyle Anderson / Larry Nance Jr type..

The guy who kind of reminds me of Kuminga from this draft class is Thiero..but Thiero will likely be worse in the league since he's over 2 years younger than Kuminga was when drafted and way lower ranked coming out of HS..Thiero's ceiling is probably like an Oshae Brissett type..
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Post#263 » by brackdan70 » Tue Jun 17, 2025 2:40 pm


Nothing wrong with that….
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Post#264 » by brackdan70 » Tue Jun 17, 2025 2:45 pm

winsomme2 wrote:The more i think about it, unless someone surprising drops, I think we should take Kalkbrenner. HIs size and skill combination is too much to pass on.

I could see him being a late riser and not even be there. He really is a big.


Yeah he seems to be moving up boards.
To me I think he can be a backup center right away for many teams. Not sure he projects as a high level guy ever though. I’d take him at 28 or 32 if he is there. I like his skill set. I do ask myself if he is better than Queta though… I think he has more offensive upside for sure
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#266 » by 165bows » Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:37 pm

brackdan70 wrote:
winsomme2 wrote:The more i think about it, unless someone surprising drops, I think we should take Kalkbrenner. HIs size and skill combination is too much to pass on.

I could see him being a late riser and not even be there. He really is a big.


Yeah he seems to be moving up boards.
To me I think he can be a backup center right away for many teams. Not sure he projects as a high level guy ever though. I’d take him at 28 or 32 if he is there. I like his skill set. I do ask myself if he is better than Queta though… I think he has more offensive upside for sure

Gone back and forth on him so many times. Seems like the big weakness is his rebounding imo.

Kind of the classic scenario of the big guy and how mobile is he on defense is pretty typical, but if he was a more solid defensive rebounder I'd be sold.
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Post#267 » by dortmunder » Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:42 pm

I think kornet will probably get the money somewhere else. Cant blame him.
So kalkbrenner makes all the sense.
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Post#268 » by redslastlaugh » Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:03 pm

Givony new mock draft dropped today on free ESPN site.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45515479/2025-nba-mock-draft-59-picks-trade-talks-heat-30-teams

Celts take Drake Powell & Ryan Kalkbrenner

Powell turns 20 in September and was underwhelming as an athletic wing this year. Could be good but echoes of Jordan Walsh
Kalkbrenner giant rim protecting center who could be really good or could be just too slow and too weak ...

If this was our draft, I wouldn't be that excited. I'd really like a couple of higher projected prospects to slip to our range or to maybe take a couple of prospects with more offensive IQ rather than the hypothetical offense offered by Powell & kalkbrenner. We have an aging and expensive team. We need to get a guy or two out of this draft that in 2-3 years is ready to play playoff minutes. We need our Aaron Wiggins, Andrew Nembhard, Lu Dort or Isaiah Hartenstein ... we need some young, good pieces.
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Post#269 » by playa-hater » Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:12 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:Givony new mock draft dropped today on free ESPN site.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45515479/2025-nba-mock-draft-59-picks-trade-talks-heat-30-teams

Celts take Drake Powell & Ryan Kalkbrenner

Powell turns 20 in September and was underwhelming as an athletic wing this year. Could be good but echoes of Jordan Walsh
Kalkbrenner giant rim protecting center who could be really good or could be just too slow and too weak ...

If this was our draft, I wouldn't be that excited. I'd really like a couple of higher projected prospects to slip to our range or to maybe take a couple of prospects with more offensive IQ rather than the hypothetical offense offered by Powell & kalkbrenner. We have an aging and expensive team. We need to get a guy or two out of this draft that in 2-3 years is ready to play playoff minutes. We need our Aaron Wiggins, Andrew Nembhard, Lu Dort or Isaiah Hartenstein ... we need some young, good pieces.


Yet another mock draft that shows there is some serious talent. Late twenties and early second round. Yet another draft where my favorite player goes one or two pigs early..Fleming
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Post#270 » by 165bows » Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:14 pm

It's not exciting but I'd be fine with that draft. I mean, that's not likely but Powell/Kalk is pretty much prototype if you are trying to hit on Dort/Hartenstein level players.

Anyways, surprised I haven't seen anyone make Paul Pierce comps for Tre Johnson.

He's my guy in the single digits behind Flagg, give me him over Harper.
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Post#271 » by ddb » Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:14 pm

Cedric Coward is a guy I'd love to see in Boston.
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Post#272 » by redslastlaugh » Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:26 pm

165bows wrote:It's not exciting but I'd be fine with that draft. I mean, that's not likely but Powell/Kalk is pretty much prototype if you are trying to hit on Dort/Hartenstein level players.

Yea, it'd be fine. I don't know what I'm expecting. I just want some creativity.

I'm kind of still bummed about the Knicks series and ideally want Brad to find some New ways to find advantages based on our personnel. Knicks games 1 & 2 plus the Tatum injury has left me searching for something new and fun to get my exictement back.

If Powell becomes Aaron Nesmith in the pros, great. But I imagine he'll start November 3-12 from corner threes and then won't play again for a month. Maybe I'm wrong. I just can't emphasize enough that I'd really like a creative offseason (draft and trades) that shows Brad/Joe have a plan outside of we want to lead NBA in 3pt attempts and "you gotta make em" is our major adjustment if that's not working in the playoffs
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Post#273 » by redslastlaugh » Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:31 pm

for sure. go get him Brad!
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ddb wrote:Cedric Coward is a guy I'd love to see in Boston.
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Post#274 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:34 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:Givony new mock draft dropped today on free ESPN site.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45515479/2025-nba-mock-draft-59-picks-trade-talks-heat-30-teams

Celts take Drake Powell & Ryan Kalkbrenner

Powell turns 20 in September and was underwhelming as an athletic wing this year. Could be good but echoes of Jordan Walsh
Kalkbrenner giant rim protecting center who could be really good or could be just too slow and too weak ...

If this was our draft, I wouldn't be that excited. I'd really like a couple of higher projected prospects to slip to our range or to maybe take a couple of prospects with more offensive IQ rather than the hypothetical offense offered by Powell & kalkbrenner. We have an aging and expensive team. We need to get a guy or two out of this draft that in 2-3 years is ready to play playoff minutes. We need our Aaron Wiggins, Andrew Nembhard, Lu Dort or Isaiah Hartenstein ... we need some young, good pieces.

Honestly, if the Celtics stay at 28 and 32 that's not a bad draft.
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Post#275 » by djFan71 » Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:44 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:Givony new mock draft dropped today on free ESPN site.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45515479/2025-nba-mock-draft-59-picks-trade-talks-heat-30-teams

Celts take Drake Powell & Ryan Kalkbrenner

Powell turns 20 in September and was underwhelming as an athletic wing this year. Could be good but echoes of Jordan Walsh
Kalkbrenner giant rim protecting center who could be really good or could be just too slow and too weak ...

If this was our draft, I wouldn't be that excited. I'd really like a couple of higher projected prospects to slip to our range or to maybe take a couple of prospects with more offensive IQ rather than the hypothetical offense offered by Powell & kalkbrenner. We have an aging and expensive team. We need to get a guy or two out of this draft that in 2-3 years is ready to play playoff minutes. We need our Aaron Wiggins, Andrew Nembhard, Lu Dort or Isaiah Hartenstein ... we need some young, good pieces.

Honestly, if the Celtics stay at 28 and 32 that's not a bad draft.

Can't see us passing on Clayton Jr if he's actually there at 28 like he is in this mock. He won't be, though, is my guess.
Kalk I go back and forth on but would probably go Broome instead (assuming we are bringing Kornet back).
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Post#276 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:45 pm

phincsfan wrote:https://www.nbadraft.net/players/noah-penda/

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/jonathan-kuminga/

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/adou-thiero/

I like my comparison better

You would be wrong. Kuminga's biggest weaknesses are his feel for the game and his motor. They are arguably Penda's biggest strengths. Besides being wings with suspect jumpers they could hardly be more different.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#277 » by Hal14 » Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:20 pm

Updated list of who we've worked out ahead of the draft..

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Guys who withdrew from the draft are crossed out.

Lots of old guys lol. And not many who are projected to get picked in the top 35..as I mentioned before, most of these guys look like potentially just some bodies to help full out rosters for summer league/training camp/G league team..

I have pretty much no interest in the rest of the list, outside of the top 5 guys listed (Coward, Broome, Powell, Small, Lanier). Those 5 guys do interest me, to some extent - especially Coward but Coward is the least likely to be their when we pick (unless we trade up).

Some of the Coward film I've seen, does look a bit Kawhi-esque. Obviously I'm not expecting him to be *that* good. But just the possibility that he can be even a poor man's version of Kawhi (while being a better shooter in college than Kawhi was) is enough for him to be worth a top 15 pick, imo.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 – Capture the Flagg 

Post#278 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:24 pm

Hal14 wrote:Updated list of who we've worked out ahead of the draft..

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Guys who withdrew from the draft are crossed out.

Lots of old guys lol. And not many who are projected to get picked in the top 35..

A lot of those guys look like two way FA if they don't get drafted.
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Post#279 » by redslastlaugh » Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:18 pm

Wasserman new mock has Celtics taking Liam McNeeley. McNeeley shot 32% from 3 this season, I've heard intel that he is also shooting poorly in workouts and based on present Celtics personnel, McNeeley isn't a great fit imo.

Wasserman: "Based on things I'm hearing around the league, there's not a ton of excitement around him." 57:40

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 – Capture the Flagg 

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