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[8516knicks]

In this year’s playoffs his production dropped to 16 ppg, 5 rpg on 27 3P%, 37.9 FG% in four losses. He’s inconsistent. Also look up his regular season game logs. His production is up and down all over the place.

He’s a great positional fit, but if you don’t like Bridges, I don’t think you’ll like him much. I like Bridges and I’d be down with Jackson jr., just don’t expect too much.

I guess thats fair, but I do think JJJ is still getting better, but yeah hes got flaws.

Don’t get me wrong, I like him very much, he and Turner are the two players I’d put next to Towns.

However, I really like what we have and I think OG is in the same tier. I’m also not a fan of breaking up Wingstop anyway. That’s a more valuable thing than folks seem to understand. Horford is my best answer for what we should do in the offseason, but of course I get why guys are losing it over JJJ.

Plus,https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/280801/Grizzlies-Expected-To-Offer-Jaren-Jackson-Jr-$200M+-Extension;-Ja-Morant-Considered-Less-Likely

Turner? He sucks. Have you been watching the finals? He's constantly outmuscled by OKC guys five inches smaller, has hands like Mitch after a fortnite bender and has been iffy shooting 3's (which is his only real skill). No thanks, with a bullet.

[KnixinSix]

In this year’s playoffs his production dropped to 16 ppg, 5 rpg on 27 3P%, 37.9 FG% in four losses. He’s inconsistent. Also look up his regular season game logs. His production is up and down all over the place.

He’s a great positional fit, but if you don’t like Bridges, I don’t think you’ll like him much. I like Bridges and I’d be down with Jackson jr., just don’t expect too much.

In theory depending on how it shakes out , you'd have....

1. Brunson
2. KAT
3. JJJ
4. OG (or Bridges)

As your top 4...

With that firepower, You don't need JJJ to be MJ.

What you want is high efficiency when you have 4 legit 18-20+ pt scorers on team. JJJ last 3 years is near 48% and last year his 3 ball was near 38%. Add in the DPOY level defense and rim protection, he is EXACTLY what this team would need if they are committed to building around KAT and Brunson.

Not enough depth to make a title push. These teams are flying around in the playoffs and have the depth to do so. We can’t trade Bridges + for him.

Did you work out the math before making that assumption? Lets say its Bridges, Mitch and a couple picks for JJJ.....

MLE probably gets you one of Nance Jr, Trent Jr, Oubre or Simmons

JJJ/KAT/Huk
KAT/JJJ/OG
OG/Hart/MLE
McBride/Hart/MLE/ Wright (vet min)
Brunson/McBride/Wright (vet min)

Extended bench: Kolek, Dadiet, McCullar, 2025 2nd round pick, possibly another vet min

9 deep , 5 on extended bench...I would say that is more than fine ....

[rajajackal]

I guess thats fair, but I do think JJJ is still getting better, but yeah hes got flaws.

Don’t get me wrong, I like him very much, he and Turner are the two players I’d put next to Towns.

However, I really like what we have and I think OG is in the same tier. I’m also not a fan of breaking up Wingstop anyway. That’s a more valuable thing than folks seem to understand. Horford is my best answer for what we should do in the offseason, but of course I get why guys are losing it over JJJ.

Plus,https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/280801/Grizzlies-Expected-To-Offer-Jaren-Jackson-Jr-$200M+-Extension;-Ja-Morant-Considered-Less-Likely

Turner? He sucks. Have you been watching the finals? He's constantly outmuscled by OKC guys five inches smaller, has hands like Mitch after a fortnite bender and has been iffy shooting 3's (which is his only real skill). No thanks, with a bullet.

i'm not watching the finals but turner has killed us in the postseason 2 years in a row to his credit

[Fury]

In theory depending on how it shakes out , you'd have....

1. Brunson
2. KAT
3. JJJ
4. OG (or Bridges)

As your top 4...

With that firepower, You don't need JJJ to be MJ.

What you want is high efficiency when you have 4 legit 18-20+ pt scorers on team. JJJ last 3 years is near 48% and last year his 3 ball was near 38%. Add in the DPOY level defense and rim protection, he is EXACTLY what this team would need if they are committed to building around KAT and Brunson.

Not enough depth to make a title push. These teams are flying around in the playoffs and have the depth to do so. We can’t trade Bridges + for him.

Did you work out the math before making that assumption? Lets say its Bridges, Mitch and a couple picks for JJJ.....

MLE probably gets you one of Nance Jr, Trent Jr, Oubre or Simmons

JJJ/KAT/Huk
KAT/JJJ/OG
OG/Hart/MLE
McBride/Hart/MLE/ Wright (vet min)
Brunson/McBride/Wright (vet min)

Extended bench: Kolek, Dadiet, McCullar, 2025 2nd round pick, possibly another vet min

9 deep , 5 on extended bench...I would say that is more than fine ....

No, the extended bench is the actual bench plus Hart. Please list the depth chart without slotting starters in bench spots. And the Knicks might not use the MLE cause it triggers the second apron.

Actual Bench: Hart, Huk, Kolek, Dadiet, MLE?

That’s not winning ****

[TheGreenArrow]

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[Fury]

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I read the article. He thinks Hart is safe. He said that if he had to guess one to go it would be one of Bridges, OG or KAT but it’s not source based just like gut feeling based on situation and context.

[8516knicks]

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I read the article. He thinks Hart is safe. He said that if he had to guess one to go it would be one of Bridges, OG or KAT but it’s not source based just like gut feeling based on situation and context.

They have the most value, they cost the most also. So it fits. OG and Mikal are somewhat overlap - especially if we could get a combo of 3 players - young, promising for instant depth (Orlando's Cole Anthony, and their first round picks, for example). And KAT is just too much offensive stat stuffer with passive aggressive turnstile D to win a title with. If I were Dolan I'd want more for my $50M than I saw against the Pacers.

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I think it may be Josh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I read the article. He thinks Hart is safe. He said that if he had to guess one to go it would be one of Bridges, OG or KAT but it’s not source based just like gut feeling based on situation and context.

If Bridges doesn't sign his extension it will be him. It's the way the Knicks operate.

I still think they want to give KAT another chance with a more modern offensive coach.

The only other player could be OG. Who seemed to speak out about touches early in the year ect. I don't think he wants to just a 3/D guy.

[3toheadmelo]

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I think it may be Josh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I read the article. He thinks Hart is safe. He said that if he had to guess one to go it would be one of Bridges, OG or KAT but it’s not source based just like gut feeling based on situation and context.

If Bridges doesn't sign his extension it will be him. It's the way the Knicks operate.

I still think they want to give KAT another chance with a more modern offensive coach.

The only other player could be OG. Who seemed to speak out about touches early in the year ect. I don't think he wants to just a 3/D guy.

Where did OG complain about touches?

[TheGreenArrow]

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[Ravenxvirall]

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I think it may be Josh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I read the article. He thinks Hart is safe. He said that if he had to guess one to go it would be one of Bridges, OG or KAT but it’s not source based just like gut feeling based on situation and context.

If Bridges doesn't sign his extension it will be him. It's the way the Knicks operate.

I still think they want to give KAT another chance with a more modern offensive coach.

The only other player could be OG. Who seemed to speak out about touches early in the year ect. I don't think he wants to just a 3/D guy.

Og should learn how to dribble before complaining about more touches.

[KnixinSix]

Not enough depth to make a title push. These teams are flying around in the playoffs and have the depth to do so. We can’t trade Bridges + for him.

Did you work out the math before making that assumption? Lets say its Bridges, Mitch and a couple picks for JJJ.....

MLE probably gets you one of Nance Jr, Trent Jr, Oubre or Simmons

JJJ/KAT/Huk
KAT/JJJ/OG
OG/Hart/MLE
McBride/Hart/MLE/ Wright (vet min)
Brunson/McBride/Wright (vet min)

Extended bench: Kolek, Dadiet, McCullar, 2025 2nd round pick, possibly another vet min

9 deep , 5 on extended bench...I would say that is more than fine ....

No, the extended bench is the actual bench plus Hart. Please list the depth chart without slotting starters in bench spots. And the Knicks might not use the MLE cause it triggers the second apron.

Actual Bench: Hart, Huk, Kolek, Dadiet, MLE?

That’s not winning ****

Figure it out. Its all there..... if you still somehow dont understand this that multiple players play multiple positions, I dont know what to tell you at this point. I have done this excercise showing it clearly many times prior, you obviously dont want to see it. The above is 9 deep and probably 7 of those 9 easily can play 20 minutes plus. Not a difficult concept at all.

[8516knicks]

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Wrong Red Arrow!

[thebuzzardman]

yeah, there is basically 0 change we get triple J. Memphis won't trade him... and if they do, multiple teams will offer more. don't get this discussion at all tbh.

Just like OG, Bridges and KAT? Just like Luka?

To say 0 chance is just myopic thinking.

who said that there was no chance for those OG, Bridges, KAT trades? it was pretty clear that all of them were available for the right price.
And that Luka thing is once in a decade. I don't think its a good example.

Windhorst said there is a good chance that Memphis keeps JJJ. So even IF they trade him, they would probably get at least 4 unprotected firsts when you consider the Bane trade. And we have none. Sure you can trade OG to a third team and maybe you would get that return, but how much better are you when you just swap JJJ for OG?

Sorry i just don't see it.

Windhorst was the same one talking about the Knicks interest in JJJ about 6 months ago.

[aq_ua]

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I read the article. He thinks Hart is safe. He said that if he had to guess one to go it would be one of Bridges, OG or KAT but it’s not source based just like gut feeling based on situation and context.

If Bridges doesn't sign his extension it will be him. It's the way the Knicks operate.

I still think they want to give KAT another chance with a more modern offensive coach.

The only other player could be OG. Who seemed to speak out about touches early in the year ect. I don't think he wants to just a 3/D guy.

The more I think about it, the more I think OG is the most likely to be traded, for the same reason Desmond Bane was moved. Let's agree that the Knicks need another offensive creator and depth. That means talent upgrades at multiple positions. Hart's contract is too small to bring back multiple players. Bridges is coming off a mediocre at best season, so we would be selling at a low point after giving up so many draft picks to acquire. KAT just demonstrated he's a dominant big man in the playoffs and too unique a talent.

Meanwhile, OG just had one of his best seasons as a pro and his contract is big enough to bring back multiple sizable contracts i.e. hopefully meaningful players. Moving off OG would solidy Bridges as the third option on offense, and OG's contributions might be replaced by committee.

Don't get me wrong - I would hate to move OG, he's such a good piece, but it might be a necessary sacrifice under this CBA.

[KnixinSix]

I read the article. He thinks Hart is safe. He said that if he had to guess one to go it would be one of Bridges, OG or KAT but it’s not source based just like gut feeling based on situation and context.

If Bridges doesn't sign his extension it will be him. It's the way the Knicks operate.

I still think they want to give KAT another chance with a more modern offensive coach.

The only other player could be OG. Who seemed to speak out about touches early in the year ect. I don't think he wants to just a 3/D guy.

The more I think about it, the more I think OG is the most likely to be traded, for the same reason Desmond Bane was moved. Let's agree that the Knicks need another offensive creator and depth. That means talent upgrades at multiple positions. Hart's contract is too small to bring back multiple players. Bridges is coming off a mediocre at best season, so we would be selling at a low point after giving up so many draft picks to acquire. KAT just demonstrated he's a dominant big man in the playoffs and too unique a talent.

Meanwhile, OG just had one of his best seasons as a pro and his contract is big enough to bring back multiple sizable contracts i.e. hopefully meaningful players. Moving off OG would solidy Bridges as the third option on offense, and OG's contributions might be replaced by committee.

Don't get me wrong - I would hate to move OG, he's such a good piece, but it might be a necessary sacrifice under this CBA.

It is possible that could be the move with Bridges getting extended.

[thebuzzardman]

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5 starters. Isn't it more accurate to say a 20% chance?

Hope it's Hart also.

Most overrated Knick of all time at the moment.

[KnixinSix]

I read the article. He thinks Hart is safe. He said that if he had to guess one to go it would be one of Bridges, OG or KAT but it’s not source based just like gut feeling based on situation and context.

If Bridges doesn't sign his extension it will be him. It's the way the Knicks operate.

I still think they want to give KAT another chance with a more modern offensive coach.

The only other player could be OG. Who seemed to speak out about touches early in the year ect. I don't think he wants to just a 3/D guy.

Og should learn how to dribble before complaining about more touches.

OG will never be a super smooth, quick twitch, explosive type player. Thats simply not who he is. He is also not some hang in the air contested circus shot maker either. However what he does do well :defense, 3 ball, back door cuts/timing, he is pretty elite at.

[sol537]

I read the article. He thinks Hart is safe. He said that if he had to guess one to go it would be one of Bridges, OG or KAT but it’s not source based just like gut feeling based on situation and context.

If Bridges doesn't sign his extension it will be him. It's the way the Knicks operate.

I still think they want to give KAT another chance with a more modern offensive coach.

The only other player could be OG. Who seemed to speak out about touches early in the year ect. I don't think he wants to just a 3/D guy.

The more I think about it, the more I think OG is the most likely to be traded, for the same reason Desmond Bane was moved. Let's agree that the Knicks need another offensive creator and depth. That means talent upgrades at multiple positions. Hart's contract is too small to bring back multiple players. Bridges is coming off a mediocre at best season, so we would be selling at a low point after giving up so many draft picks to acquire. KAT just demonstrated he's a dominant big man in the playoffs and too unique a talent.

Meanwhile, OG just had one of his best seasons as a pro and his contract is big enough to bring back multiple sizable contracts i.e. hopefully meaningful players. Moving off OG would solidy Bridges as the third option on offense, and OG's contributions might be replaced by committee.

Don't get me wrong - I would hate to move OG, he's such a good piece, but it might be a necessary sacrifice under this CBA.

I get your thinking but I think we're better off moving off from KAT if we can find a good deal out there. I think it's going to be really hard surviving deep playoff runs with both KAT and JB out there on defense. Plus, they didn't even play great together on offense though I blame that mostly on Thibs.

I don't think KD is the answer. I think there are teams out there like NOP, POR, PHX, CHA, etc. who would love to have a guy like KAT as their offensive engine and we could get some better fits/contracts/picks in return. I'll leave it in the capable hands of Leon and co...

[KnixinSix]

If Bridges doesn't sign his extension it will be him. It's the way the Knicks operate.

I still think they want to give KAT another chance with a more modern offensive coach.

The only other player could be OG. Who seemed to speak out about touches early in the year ect. I don't think he wants to just a 3/D guy.

The more I think about it, the more I think OG is the most likely to be traded, for the same reason Desmond Bane was moved. Let's agree that the Knicks need another offensive creator and depth. That means talent upgrades at multiple positions. Hart's contract is too small to bring back multiple players. Bridges is coming off a mediocre at best season, so we would be selling at a low point after giving up so many draft picks to acquire. KAT just demonstrated he's a dominant big man in the playoffs and too unique a talent.

Meanwhile, OG just had one of his best seasons as a pro and his contract is big enough to bring back multiple sizable contracts i.e. hopefully meaningful players. Moving off OG would solidy Bridges as the third option on offense, and OG's contributions might be replaced by committee.

Don't get me wrong - I would hate to move OG, he's such a good piece, but it might be a necessary sacrifice under this CBA.

I get your thinking but I think we're better off moving off from KAT if we can find a good deal out there. I think it's going to be really hard surviving deep playoff runs with both KAT and JB out there on defense. Plus, they didn't even play great together on offense though I blame that mostly on Thibs.

I don't think KD is the answer. I think there are teams out there like NOP, POR, PHX, CHA, etc. who would love to have a guy like KAT as their offensive engine and we could get some better fits/contracts/picks in return. I'll leave it in the capable hands of Leon and co...

Right or wrong, it feels like Knicks are more committed to KAT and Brunson than anyone else on team. KAT for as much as some crap on him, also had he best overall analytics on the team too including Brunson. His deep CAA connections and relationship with Rose, him being a good soldier and great teammate etc. I think Knicks will try to build a better fitting roster around him than give up on him. In theory, that's where the elite defensive 4/5 becomes the best next move.

Now this is my impression and I could be totally wrong but that is what I see.