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Post#481 » by emunney » Tue Jun 17, 2025 2:51 pm

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ReasonablySober wrote:The picks around the Bucks in ESPN's latest mock.

37. Detroit Pistons (via Toronto)
Alex Toohey, SF/PF, Sydney (Australia)

38. San Antonio Spurs
Chaz Lanier, SG, Tennessee, super senior

39. Toronto Raptors (via Portland)
Bogoljub Markovic, PF/C, Mega Superbet (Adriatic)

40. Washington Wizards (via Phoenix)
Johni Broome, C, Auburn, super senior

41. Golden State Warriors (via Miami)
Rocco Zikarsky, C, Brisbane (Australia)

42. Sacramento Kings (via Chicago)
John Tonje, SF, Wisconsin, super senior

43. Utah Jazz (via Dallas)
Tyrese Proctor, PG, Duke, junior

44. Oklahoma City Thunder (via Atlanta)
Eric Dixon, PF, Villanova, super senior

45. Chicago Bulls (via Sacramento)
Sion James, SF, Duke, super senior

46. Orlando Magic
Kam Jones, PG/SG, Marquette, senior

47. Milwaukee Bucks (via Detroit)
Koby Brea, SG/SF, Kentucky, super senio
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48. Memphis Grizzlies (via Golden State)
Javon Small, PG, West Virginia, senior

49. Cleveland Cavaliers (via Milwaukee)
Vladislav Goldin, C, Michigan, super senior

50. New York Knicks (via Memphis)
Lachlan Olbrich, PF/C, Illawarra

51. LA Clippers (via Minnesota)
Viktor Lakhin, C, Clemson, super senior

52. Phoenix Suns (via Denver)
Kobe Sanders, SG/SF, Nevada, senior

53. Utah Jazz (via LA Clippers)
Dink Pate, SG/SF, Mexico City (G League)

54. Indiana Pacers
Micah Peavy, SG/SF, Georgetown, senior

55. Los Angeles Lakers
Hunter Sallis, SG, Wake Forest, senior

56. Memphis Grizzlies (via Houston)
Amari Williams, C, Kentucky, senior

57. Orlando Magic (via Boston)
Alijah Martin, SG, Florida, senior



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Post#482 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Jun 17, 2025 2:52 pm

Call me basic, but I'm confident that Tonje could have a nice role with the team off the bench.
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Post#483 » by jakecronus8 » Tue Jun 17, 2025 2:57 pm

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ReasonablySober wrote:The picks around the Bucks in ESPN's latest mock.




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Post#484 » by Bucks4005 » Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:38 pm

I’m wondering, does anyone think we could offer our unprotected first in 31 to the Nets potentially for their 1st Rounder? I can see them making all 4 first round picks, but if they offered 3 for that one as a gambler chance, think realistically it’d be 2 at most, would you take it? Honestly, cost controlled 4 year players to fill our roster for next year, I’d consider it. Target potential immediate contruters, like a Brogdon type prospect, guy with positional size and ready to play now,and hope you hit on at least one of the 3 to get a guy who can play with Giannis more than a year type deal and develop chemistry. I mean, we’ve hit on some FAs lately, but constantly rotating role players in and out can’t be good for continuity.
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Post#485 » by Ryan5UW » Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:53 pm

With Horst's track record in the draft? I'll keep the 31 pick and hope he's not here to use it, or use it in a trade to acquire a known entity. Using it to get Horst more first round picks now seems like a waste.
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Post#486 » by JonHeist » Tue Jun 17, 2025 8:30 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:Call me basic, but I'm confident that Tonje could have a nice role with the team off the bench.


he's actually one of the guys who have a ~50%+ shot at being there at 47 that I like the most

but that's more of a "this draft is bad" problem than a "he's good" thing

and knowing how Wisconsin players usually translate, he'll probably shoot 41/31/75 in the G league for whoever drafts him and end up in Europe sooner than later
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Post#487 » by emunney » Tue Jun 17, 2025 8:44 pm

Still like Brice Williams.

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Post#488 » by Ron Swanson » Tue Jun 17, 2025 8:45 pm

It's a tough call with him. He'll be a super old rookie obviously (24), but unlike some previous guys (*cough* Johnny Davis), I'd trust the shooting to translate when he's been a 38% 3PT shooter and 85% from the line kind of guy his whole college career. The mirage might be the FT rate (58% last year vs. never cracking 41% in any other year), but dude is built like a truck and was super crafty at drawing fouls, so maybe it's just a standard physical and mental development curve? He's not a great/fluid athlete and he's still gotta clean up the handle, but I think he's got a better shot than most dudes projected in that 40-60 range of cracking an NBA rotation.
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Post#489 » by Bernman » Tue Jun 17, 2025 9:00 pm

I predict they move up, packaging the pick w/ Ajax (who seemed done here last regular season game), to draft an adequate Brook replacement & big man insurance in case the FA market doesn't fall as desired. Kockbrenner checks the most boxes, but there are others who check some.
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Post#490 » by Badgerlander » Wed Jun 18, 2025 12:34 am

ReasonablySober wrote:The picks around the Bucks in ESPN's latest mock.

37. Detroit Pistons (via Toronto)
Alex Toohey, SF/PF, Sydney (Australia)

38. San Antonio Spurs
Chaz Lanier, SG, Tennessee, super senior

39. Toronto Raptors (via Portland)
Bogoljub Markovic, PF/C, Mega Superbet (Adriatic)

40. Washington Wizards (via Phoenix)
Johni Broome, C, Auburn, super senior

41. Golden State Warriors (via Miami)
Rocco Zikarsky, C, Brisbane (Australia)

42. Sacramento Kings (via Chicago)
John Tonje, SF, Wisconsin, super senior

43. Utah Jazz (via Dallas)
Tyrese Proctor, PG, Duke, junior

44. Oklahoma City Thunder (via Atlanta)
Eric Dixon, PF, Villanova, super senior

45. Chicago Bulls (via Sacramento)
Sion James, SF, Duke, super senior

46. Orlando Magic
Kam Jones, PG/SG, Marquette, senior

47. Milwaukee Bucks (via Detroit)
Koby Brea, SG/SF, Kentucky, super senio
r

48. Memphis Grizzlies (via Golden State)
Javon Small, PG, West Virginia, senior

49. Cleveland Cavaliers (via Milwaukee)
Vladislav Goldin, C, Michigan, super senior

50. New York Knicks (via Memphis)
Lachlan Olbrich, PF/C, Illawarra

51. LA Clippers (via Minnesota)
Viktor Lakhin, C, Clemson, super senior

52. Phoenix Suns (via Denver)
Kobe Sanders, SG/SF, Nevada, senior

53. Utah Jazz (via LA Clippers)
Dink Pate, SG/SF, Mexico City (G League)

54. Indiana Pacers
Micah Peavy, SG/SF, Georgetown, senior

55. Los Angeles Lakers
Hunter Sallis, SG, Wake Forest, senior

56. Memphis Grizzlies (via Houston)
Amari Williams, C, Kentucky, senior

57. Orlando Magic (via Boston)
Alijah Martin, SG, Florida, senior


This is going to be a weird draft, such a broad draft range on some guys. Hope we can add a pick if a guy like Penda drops to 30. I’ve seen mocks with Amari as high as 20. Maybe we get some value out of this after all
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Post#491 » by BUCKnation » Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:00 am

I dont know if its a good comp, but I could see Tonje being Brogdon-esque
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Post#492 » by ReginaldDwight » Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:07 am

Tonje is just a guy don't see him ever being a rotation piece in the league.
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Post#493 » by 0BobLobLaw0 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:35 am

I really like Tonje. Hope he falls to us in the 2nd round
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Post#494 » by Ryan5UW » Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:04 pm

I like Tonje more than I did Davis coming out, but that might say more about what I thought about Davis than anything else.
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Post#495 » by Licensed to Il » Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:32 pm

ReginaldDwight wrote:Tonje is just a guy don't see him ever being a rotation piece in the league.


I watched a lot of Badgers this year, on TV and in person.

On one hand, in the second round, sure. Tonje has a path to cracking a NBA rotation. I like his shooting mechanics and percentages, and he's crafty.

On the other hand, there were a few end of game situations this year where it was likely going to Tonje and the other team had a chance to put a longer quick footed defender on him. I watched those situations more closely than most, because they can be a good read on future pro success. If the defender went hunting for blocks, Tonje could get to the line. But when a long and disciplined defender stays patient, Tonje has nothing. Trouble playing vertically and trouble getting around athletic guys.

Summary, I think he'll be a guy that's playable in the modern NBA where your system creates motion and movement and open looks. He lacks the athleticism and length to create or have high efficiency as an iso scorer.
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Post#496 » by Ron Swanson » Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:47 pm

Tonje
Brea
Amari Williams
Dink Pate
Hansen Yang
Hunter Sallis
Tyrese Proctor

I'm good with any of those guys. Too many of the wings in the 40-60 range (you can include Tonje and Brea TBF) just don't pop off the page for me and are gonna be too overly reliant on guile/intangibles going up against NBA athletes. RJ Luis, Brice Williams, Micah Peavy, Jamir Watkins, etc. These guys are all pretty interchangeable IMO.
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Post#497 » by Ron Swanson » Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:14 pm

https://www.si.com/nba/draft/mock-drafts-big-boards/2025-nba-mock-draft-two-round-projections-10-days-out

Woof, SI mock has us taking Johni Broome. I get that he was insanely productive but I don't think you could construct a less "NBA translatable skills" prospect even if you tried. Big time Drew Timme vibes. Absolutely nothing about him makes me say "yeah, this will work against NBA athletes".
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Post#498 » by Bernman » Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:46 pm

I'm anti-Tonje. In addition to Badgers' games, I saw him in the combine, & he struggled to create separation, defend, isn't some top shooter. Not very big, can't move very well, average skill for NBA. A lot of his success in college I think came from being older. I'd be really deflated by his pick.

As for Broome, he'd be great value. Unlike Tonje, he had early career success, posting 17/11/4 blocks as a sophomore. And he was a force against NBA prospects in the combine scrimmages. The shot-blocking speaks to some vertical pop in the past. There were some injuries. He still was a decent shot blocker at the end. Speaks to his timing/i.q. Demonstrates that w/ passing, scoring savvy, movement. He's got scoring touch. Bar injuries befalling him further, hard to see him not have a lengthy NBA career between size, skill, intangibles. And that's a good pick at 47. But it's why I want up to mid 30s, or out, because I don't feel good about that as my lone pick in a draft. Don't think he falls anyway.
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Post#499 » by bucksfansince88 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:33 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Tonje
Brea
Amari Williams
Dink Pate
Hansen Yang
Hunter Sallis
Tyrese Proctor

I'm good with any of those guys. Too many of the wings in the 40-60 range (you can include Tonje and Brea TBF) just don't pop off the page for me and are gonna be too overly reliant on guile/intangibles going up against NBA athletes. RJ Luis, Brice Williams, Micah Peavy, Jamir Watkins, etc. These guys are all pretty interchangeable IMO.


I want a couple of those guys. Tyrese Proctor, Sallis or Dink Pate(wildcard talent). really want us to go get Rocco too!
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Post#500 » by emunney » Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:55 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:https://www.si.com/nba/draft/mock-drafts-big-boards/2025-nba-mock-draft-two-round-projections-10-days-out

Woof, SI mock has us taking Johni Broome. I get that he was insanely productive but I don't think you could construct a less "NBA translatable skills" prospect even if you tried. Big time Drew Timme vibes. Absolutely nothing about him makes me say "yeah, this will work against NBA athletes".


My problem is that he can't shoot. For us, that makes him a non-starter. One season shooting 35% on low volume isn't enough to convince me that he has much potential there, either. Worse FT shooter than Giannis.

He's going to look good against young/undisciplined teams because his game is 90% capitalizing on mistakes (like Timme, who hung some pretty decent lines against late-season developmental lineups and got himself a contract out of it). If he could shoot, I think that could play here, with our offense (hopefully) putting defenses in a bind and potentially making them take their eyes off guys who aren't Giannis or 40% high volume 3pt shooters. But he can't shoot.
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