2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2

[MettaWorldPanda]

Pat needs to be sending the Suns GM this footage every day. Hell watching it makes me want to keep him lmao.

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Think he fits seamlessly with Booker if they commit to him as the starting SF. They have to flip Wiggins and just give JJJ his shot. Let him become a fan favorite there

[greg4012]

For this to work for the Rockets without FVV they have to give up Sheppard, Jabari, Brooks, and Londale and 10th pick. All these packages are stupid steep.

Of these players, what's the biggest loss for Hou?

Maybe Reed but he didnt really play at all.

No brainer deal for them, imo

Net result of having top 10 picks in 4 straight drafts (3 of which were top 4 picks--2 of which being traded away before gettng real impact) being Amen Thompson and 37-year old KD for 1-2 seasons. IDK about that payoff.

[RexBoyWonder]

Sure KD is a big SCORING upgrade for this roster.

But our truly biggest need, even before a scorer - is a creator for others. An offensive engine. Advantage creator. Someone that gets into the paint and can finish/get to the line/find the open guy.

Getting KD alone without also getting that type of a player is pointless. Herro isn't enough, Mitchell isn't enough either. We need a legit rim pressure guy.

[SA37]

For this to work for the Rockets without FVV they have to give up Sheppard, Jabari, Brooks, and Londale and 10th pick. All these packages are stupid steep.

Of these players, what's the biggest loss for Hou?

Maybe Reed but he didnt really play at all.

No brainer deal for them, imo

Brooks would be the biggest loss, but he is polarizing. There is some level of addition by subtraction in moving him. Lots of antics to deal with.

A lot of the issue in any deal is the threat of loss aversion when we're discussing the young'ns. Everyone is scared to give away the next big thing for the current, proven big thing.

[greg4012]

Sure KD is a big SCORING upgrade for this roster.

But our truly biggest need, even before a scorer - is a creator for others. An offensive engine. Advantage creator. Someone that gets into the paint and can finish/get to the line/find the open guy.

Getting KD alone without also getting that type of a player is pointless. Herro isn't enough, Mitchell isn't enough either. We need a legit rim pressure guy.

Ain't many players in the NBA that package the type of legit rim pressure you're talking about with an offensive engine game.

We all miss D Wade.

Any KD move needs to be paired with ancillary additions fa sho

[SA37]

Sure KD is a big SCORING upgrade for this roster.

But our truly biggest need, even before a scorer - is a creator for others. An offensive engine. Advantage creator. Someone that gets into the paint and can finish/get to the line/find the open guy.

Getting KD alone without also getting that type of a player is pointless. Herro isn't enough, Mitchell isn't enough either. We need a legit rim pressure guy.

Tyus Jones took the minimum to go to Phoenix. He'd be a solid pg to add. Chris Paul or Westbrook would be even better.

[greg4012]

Sure KD is a big SCORING upgrade for this roster.

But our truly biggest need, even before a scorer - is a creator for others. An offensive engine. Advantage creator. Someone that gets into the paint and can finish/get to the line/find the open guy.

Getting KD alone without also getting that type of a player is pointless. Herro isn't enough, Mitchell isn't enough either. We need a legit rim pressure guy.

Tyus Jones took the minimum to go to Phoenix. He'd be a solid pg to add. Chris Paul or Westbrook would be even better.

It's actually insane that 39 year old Chris Paul played in 82 of 82 games for San Antonio last season (over 28 minutes per game). He led the entire team in minutes played on the season and was still impactful on both ends of the floor.

CP would def be the optimal vet min PG addition among the pool of players that would potentially be available.

[RexBoyWonder]

Sure KD is a big SCORING upgrade for this roster.

But our truly biggest need, even before a scorer - is a creator for others. An offensive engine. Advantage creator. Someone that gets into the paint and can finish/get to the line/find the open guy.

Getting KD alone without also getting that type of a player is pointless. Herro isn't enough, Mitchell isn't enough either. We need a legit rim pressure guy.

Tyus Jones took the minimum to go to Phoenix. He'd be a solid pg to add. Chris Paul or Westbrook would be even better.

These guys might help, but they don't bring consistent enough rim pressure to really take our offense to where it needs to be.

Sure we won't get Haliburton or Fox, but a Collin Sexton (for example) might bring just enough juice to take the offense to another level. And he just might be attainable at a reasonable price.

[jbsays]

Sure KD is a big SCORING upgrade for this roster.

But our truly biggest need, even before a scorer - is a creator for others. An offensive engine. Advantage creator. Someone that gets into the paint and can finish/get to the line/find the open guy.

Getting KD alone without also getting that type of a player is pointless. Herro isn't enough, Mitchell isn't enough either. We need a legit rim pressure guy.

I don't know. Looking at the roster I don't see prime Chris Paul turning anyone but Bam or Herro in to Allstars. And both of them already have made it.

[greg4012]

Sure KD is a big SCORING upgrade for this roster.

But our truly biggest need, even before a scorer - is a creator for others. An offensive engine. Advantage creator. Someone that gets into the paint and can finish/get to the line/find the open guy.

Getting KD alone without also getting that type of a player is pointless. Herro isn't enough, Mitchell isn't enough either. We need a legit rim pressure guy.

Tyus Jones took the minimum to go to Phoenix. He'd be a solid pg to add. Chris Paul or Westbrook would be even better.

These guys might help, but they don't bring consistent enough rim pressure to really take our offense to where it needs to be.

Sure we won't get Haliburton or Fox, but a Collin Sexton (for example) might bring just enough juice to take the offense to another level. And he just might be attainable at a reasonable price.

Haliburton gets less rim pressure than Herro. He's a maestro floor general tho.

[SA37]

Sure KD is a big SCORING upgrade for this roster.

But our truly biggest need, even before a scorer - is a creator for others. An offensive engine. Advantage creator. Someone that gets into the paint and can finish/get to the line/find the open guy.

Getting KD alone without also getting that type of a player is pointless. Herro isn't enough, Mitchell isn't enough either. We need a legit rim pressure guy.

Tyus Jones took the minimum to go to Phoenix. He'd be a solid pg to add. Chris Paul or Westbrook would be even better.

These guys might help, but they don't bring consistent enough rim pressure to really take our offense to where it needs to be.

Sure we won't get Haliburton or Fox, but a Collin Sexton (for example) might bring just enough juice to take the offense to another level. And he just might be attainable at a reasonable price.

You'd be surprised what can open up when you have real offensive talent and not undrafted plug-ins that only stretch defenses with their shooting.

Durant and Herro can create their own shot. And Durant is a guy defenses really have to center on because he can drop 50 in no time. So with Durant on the floor, more opportunities will open up for Herro and then for others down the line.

I think DeRozan, especially at his salary, would be an interesting option if Miami can keep enough Draft capital to get Sacramento to part with him. He's another offensive monster that can get his own shot and get to the line.

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[greg4012]

Tyus Jones took the minimum to go to Phoenix. He'd be a solid pg to add. Chris Paul or Westbrook would be even better.

These guys might help, but they don't bring consistent enough rim pressure to really take our offense to where it needs to be.

Sure we won't get Haliburton or Fox, but a Collin Sexton (for example) might bring just enough juice to take the offense to another level. And he just might be attainable at a reasonable price.

You'd be surprised what can open up when you have real offensive talent and not undrafted plug-ins that only stretch defenses with their shooting.

Durant and Herro can create their own shot. And Durant is a guy defenses really have to center on because he can drop 50 in no time. So with Durant on the floor, more opportunities will open up for Herro and then for others down the line.

I think DeRozan, especially at his salary, would be an interesting option if Miami can keep enough Draft capital to get Sacramento to part with him. He's another offensive monster that can get his own shot and get to the line.

Derozan as a second move after a Durant move is the optimal game I'm seeing right now. Derozan running bench unit could be very interesting.

[greg4012]

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Being the only Eastern Conference team among the real rumored group has to move the needle a little, no?

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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The Pacers, obviously coming off the finals and maybe a championship, now have 4 1sts available for trade.

[Kobewade11]

Sure KD is a big SCORING upgrade for this roster.

But our truly biggest need, even before a scorer - is a creator for others. An offensive engine. Advantage creator. Someone that gets into the paint and can finish/get to the line/find the open guy.

Getting KD alone without also getting that type of a player is pointless. Herro isn't enough, Mitchell isn't enough either. We need a legit rim pressure guy.

Perhaps, but someone of KD's skillset would in theory open up the lane for Bam to attack should he choose. Nobody's gonna sag off KD the way they did Jimmy.

[greg4012]

Sure KD is a big SCORING upgrade for this roster.

But our truly biggest need, even before a scorer - is a creator for others. An offensive engine. Advantage creator. Someone that gets into the paint and can finish/get to the line/find the open guy.

Getting KD alone without also getting that type of a player is pointless. Herro isn't enough, Mitchell isn't enough either. We need a legit rim pressure guy.

Perhaps, but someone of KD's skillset would in theory open up the lane for Bam to attack should he choose. Nobody's gonna sag off KD the way they did Jimmy.

Almost anyone defending KD needs every inch of their length to try to stop KD from getting to his shot.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Sure KD is a big SCORING upgrade for this roster.

But our truly biggest need, even before a scorer - is a creator for others. An offensive engine. Advantage creator. Someone that gets into the paint and can finish/get to the line/find the open guy.

Getting KD alone without also getting that type of a player is pointless. Herro isn't enough, Mitchell isn't enough either. We need a legit rim pressure guy.

Perhaps, but someone of KD's skillset would in theory open up the lane for Bam to attack should he choose. Nobody's gonna sag off KD the way they did Jimmy.

Almost anyone defending KD needs every inch of their length to try to stop KD from getting to his shot.

When we play the Pacers are they just going to let KD shoot mid range jumpers over Nesmith the whole time or do they put some size on him and put the small Nesmith on Bam/Ware? We’re going to be a matchup nightmare if this happen

[SerialChiller]

Here's the full Shams segment regarding Durant from earlier today on the Pat McAfee show.

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[MettaWorldPanda]

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