2025 NBA Draft Thread 2.0

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Rasheer Fleming at 25. Thoughts?

Only if Isaac is gone. The minutes for him arent really there otherwise and TDS/Caleb exist still.

Kalkbrenner, Wolf, or Raynaud if Goga or Carter can be moved for something else to help the back court in a deal.

[basketballRob]

Rasheer Fleming at 25. Thoughts?

Only if Isaac is gone. The minutes for him arent really there otherwise and TDS/Caleb exist still.

Kalkbrenner, Wolf, or Raynaud if Goga or Carter can be moved for something else to help the back court in a deal.

Fleming is the same size as Jarrett Allen

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Rasheer Fleming at 25. Thoughts?

Only if Isaac is gone. The minutes for him arent really there otherwise and TDS/Caleb exist still.

Kalkbrenner, Wolf, or Raynaud if Goga or Carter can be moved for something else to help the back court in a deal.

Fleming is the same size as Jarrett Allen


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Rasheer Fleming is listed at 6'8 or 9 230
Jarrett Allen is listed at 6'11 250

SO huh?

[thelead]

Jett + 25 to Brooklyn for 19? Likely helps secure Clayton (and saves us some cap space). Brooklyn picks up another prospect and his dad is an assistant coach over there.

[basketballRob]

Allen is 3/4 of an inch taller. They have the same standing reach, wingspan, and weight.

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Everyone I've listened to on Fleming say he would be considered "a small ball 5". But ok.

[basketballRob]

Everyone I've listened to on Fleming say he would be considered "a small ball 5". But ok.

Wendell is 1/4" taller than Rasheer, but Rasheer has a higher standing reach and wingspan.

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Everyone I've listened to on Fleming say he would be considered "a small ball 5". But ok.

Wendell is 1/4" taller than Rasheer, but Rasheer has a higher standing reach and wingspan.

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Well I’ve also never considered Wendell a true Center but a large PF masquerading as one.. so there’s that.

[eyriq]

I think I'm expecting another trade.

[Skybox]

Everyone I've listened to on Fleming say he would be considered "a small ball 5". But ok.

Code for "Not a Center" but you could try it.

I've heard comps more in line with Isaac or Hendricks (UCF/UTA)...a guy who can cover both forward spots, hit 3's and switch around...

Fleming, in particular, is really interesting but sometimes those types of "Multi-Position Big" guys become "Tweeners" which is short for "No position". Too slight to slow down NBA bigs and not quick enough to stay with NBA wings.

*Not saying that's Fleming - Isaac is a mobility/size unicorn...but sometimes they're not

[RookieStar]

That Center from Creighton is one to look at too. He is massive.

Kalkbrenner-something.

Him or Reynaud is my choice

[fendilim]

I think part of last year's goal was that he could show that he was the point guard that we needed. Shot 40% from 3 before Paolo 's injury.... And then was not as efficient from then on. The combination of him and KCP was something they thought they could work. But didn't come to fruition with s*** show .... And inefficiency raised its head as he tried to be more than he can be.... At the moment.

But him as a spot up shooter and bane as an everything kind of shooter will be huge for us next season.

Just got a get the team geling together!

Hope Wendell is in the gym right now getting to work. Not just shooting ... But man.... Start throwing that 265lb+ around more often in the paint. Post up. Be another hub for offense again!

I agree.

This is why I like the Bane trade. Because not only does Bane open the floor for Paolo and Franz, we can also keep playing Suggs at PG where he can outmuscle opposing defenders while also not needing to have Suggs be a tablesetter because Bane will be tasked for that.

Breakdown of Suggs year:

Rookie year- played PG- was top 10-ish worst player in nba by pretty much every metric
Second year- played SG, got better
Third year- breakout year playing nothing but catch & shoot SG. He wasn't even combo guard.
Fourth year- return to PG -and complete crash in every single stat

Even entertaining idea of him being "playmaker" with near 1:1 assist to TO rate is idiocracy.

https://cleaningtheglass.com/stats/player/4868/positions#tab-team_efficiency

[fendilim]

Rasheer Fleming at 25. Thoughts?

Only if Isaac is gone. The minutes for him arent really there otherwise and TDS/Caleb exist still.

Kalkbrenner, Wolf, or Raynaud if Goga or Carter can be moved for something else to help the back court in a deal.

I think Fleming plays more Pf/C in the NBA. He is almost same height as Naz Reid but a lot longer wingspan.

He’d do good under the tutelage of Isaac next year, Imo. Moe will be out until December.

[RookieStar]

Rasheer Fleming at 25. Thoughts?

Only if Isaac is gone. The minutes for him arent really there otherwise and TDS/Caleb exist still.

Kalkbrenner, Wolf, or Raynaud if Goga or Carter can be moved for something else to help the back court in a deal.

I think Fleming plays more Pf/C in the NBA. He is almost same height as Naz Reid but a lot longer wingspan.

He’d do good under the tutelage of Isaac next year, Imo. Moe will be out until December.

I think we are at the era again where undersized C are going extinct. 6'8 C? Where the contenders Cs are all 6'10 barefoot and above?

[RookieStar]

Also..are we sure we are using our 25th pick and not juat gonna trade it?

[fendilim]

Only if Isaac is gone. The minutes for him arent really there otherwise and TDS/Caleb exist still.

Kalkbrenner, Wolf, or Raynaud if Goga or Carter can be moved for something else to help the back court in a deal.

I think Fleming plays more Pf/C in the NBA. He is almost same height as Naz Reid but a lot longer wingspan.

He’d do good under the tutelage of Isaac next year, Imo. Moe will be out until December.

I think we are at the era again where undersized C are going extinct. 6'8 C? Where the contenders Cs are all 6'10 barefoot and above?

Well, if you project him to be a starter to replace WCJ, sure, you have a point.

But his standing reach isn’t bad for a center, tbh. Naz reid is only 1/4” taller and only 7’0” wingspan, and he aint bad.

[fendilim]

Also..are we sure we are using our 25th pick and not juat gonna trade it?

I doubt we trade it. Cheap contract.

[RichCollab]

Rasheer Fleming at 25. Thoughts?

Only if Isaac is gone. The minutes for him arent really there otherwise and TDS/Caleb exist still.

Kalkbrenner, Wolf, or Raynaud if Goga or Carter can be moved for something else to help the back court in a deal.

I think Fleming plays more Pf/C in the NBA. He is almost same height as Naz Reid but a lot longer wingspan.

He’d do good under the tutelage of Isaac next year, Imo. Moe will be out until December.

TDS for me is more SF than PF. What the hell is Caleb? I honestly don’t think he can match vs opposing PFs.

JI is high risk and potential salary that can be repurposed. I like Fleming a lot and if or when he flourishes JI is not as valuable to us on the court.

JI’s body has a ton of miles on it.

[fendilim]

Only if Isaac is gone. The minutes for him arent really there otherwise and TDS/Caleb exist still.

Kalkbrenner, Wolf, or Raynaud if Goga or Carter can be moved for something else to help the back court in a deal.

I think Fleming plays more Pf/C in the NBA. He is almost same height as Naz Reid but a lot longer wingspan.

He’d do good under the tutelage of Isaac next year, Imo. Moe will be out until December.

TDS for me is more SF than PF. What the hell is Caleb? I honestly don’t think he can match vs opposing PFs.

JI is high risk and potential salary that can be repurposed. I like Fleming a lot and if or when he flourishes JI is not as valuable to us on the court.

JI’s body has a ton of miles on it.

i agree, and JI at C, doesn’t really to his defensive strength.

What makes him special is his agility for a guy his size.

[RookieStar]

I think Fleming plays more Pf/C in the NBA. He is almost same height as Naz Reid but a lot longer wingspan.

He’d do good under the tutelage of Isaac next year, Imo. Moe will be out until December.

I think we are at the era again where undersized C are going extinct. 6'8 C? Where the contenders Cs are all 6'10 barefoot and above?

Well, if you project him to be a starter to replace WCJ, sure, you have a point.

But his standing reach isn’t bad for a center, tbh. Naz reid is only 1/4” taller and only 7’0” wingspan, and he aint bad.

Nazr reid is 6'9 260lbs.. Sure Flemming could be an effectivrle backup C in 3years minimum. He doesnt have the body to bang with nba bodies yet after all.

However you did insinuate that we need a bench C for next season since Moe will be back January. And no way can Flemming be that next season.