Vucevic Trade Watch 2025

[Hangtime84]

I would really dislike Kuminga. He is a black hole, that still hasn't really found his place, despite being around a championship level franchise.

What if it's for PW straight up?

I have more faith in Pat turning it around than him, but having both compete on the same roster could help both.

[sco]

Vooch and P-Will for Kuminga

Draft Derik Queen with the 12th pick

rebuild completed - - -

C Queen / Smith / Collins
F Kuminga / Smith
F Buzelis / Huerter / Phillips
G White / Dosunmu / Terry
G Giddey / Ball

Ball out at the deadline for more assets

Collins & Huerter on expirings (likely trade Collins/resign Kevin)

The Bulls are gonna be really good in a couple of yrs

That team might actually contend for the title...of worst defensive team in NBA history.

[WesPeace]

Vooch and P-Will for Kuminga

Draft Derik Queen with the 12th pick

rebuild completed - - -

C Queen / Smith / Collins
F Kuminga / Smith
F Buzelis / Huerter / Phillips
G White / Dosunmu / Terry
G Giddey / Ball

Ball out at the deadline for more assets

Collins & Huerter on expirings (likely trade Collins/resign Kevin)

The Bulls are gonna be really good in a couple of yrs

Please god no! Worst Bulls defensive roster of decade

[burlydee]

I would love Kuminga. The Bulls need talent. He's better than PWill. Shows promise as a plus scorer and decent rebounder.

Sometimes guys don't fit. I don't believe in the magic of championship franchises. Its not the franchise, it's Curry (and Durant, Green, Klay).

The Bulls need assets. So they should be drafting guys and bringing in as many top 20 FAs as possible who fit. I think he could fit. The Bulls need players who fit an uptempo style that can attack the rim. Bring him in on a reasonable contract and rebuild your asset based. I don't see many other options.

What's a reasonable contract to you? Because he is looking at a contract in the 30 million per range.

I'd much pay both Coby and Giddey in the 30 million per season range over Kuminga that same type of money.

People look for a lot of things. Who is going to pay him that? I saw a report he was looking for playing time and a consistent role. 3 years, $54 million seems like the ballpark. I don't think he's getting over $25 million a year.

[meekrab]

I would really dislike Kuminga. He is a black hole, that still hasn't really found his place, despite being around a championship level franchise.

What if it's for PW straight up?

I give roughly 0% odds that Kuminga would sign a deal that GSW could legally S&T to us for PWill.

[ghostinthepost1]

So I guess Vuc isn't going anywhere.

Honestly really disappointing that we couldn't get ANYTHING for him. The Suns gave up 2 firsts for Mark Williams, surely they would've done 1 for Vooch instead.

The Hornets and Celtics are starting one of the Plumlees and Queta at center, they wouldn't throw us a few 2nds for Vooch?

The more and more I think about it, the more I believe the Bulls might have the worst center rotation in the league.

Aside from Vooch we have two draft busts who can't shoot to save their lives and provide very little else in the way of defense.

[HomoSapien]

For those keeping score, the Bulls have given generous long term deals to two players that not a single team in the NBA is interested in trading for in Vuc and Pat.

[League Circles]

So I guess Vuc isn't going anywhere.

Honestly really disappointing that we couldn't get ANYTHING for him. The Suns gave up 2 firsts for Mark Williams, surely they would've done 1 for Vooch instead.

The Hornets and Celtics are starting one of the Plumlees and Queta at center, they wouldn't throw us a few 2nds for Vooch?

The more and more I think about it, the more I believe the Bulls might have the worst center rotation in the league.

Aside from Vooch we have two draft busts who can't shoot to save their lives and provide very little else in the way of defense.

Vuc is probably our 3rd best center, maybe worse than that (plausible that Matas and Essengue would be better centers than Vuc). Smith is a top 10 NBA rebounder and scores and blocks shots at a good rate. All 3 have solid scoring efficiency. Vuc is definitely the best offensively, but IMO the margin between him and Smith/Collins is larger on defense than it is on offense. Vuc is simply one of the worst defenders in the league who gets big minutes.

[ChettheJet]

Some of you people are equally driven by hatred of some players and just over rating your BB IQ as an expert evaluator of talent that you look like fools when you post.

If you think that Vucevic is so awful that both Collins and Smith are better and two kids who haven't filled out enough to be PF's are better centers because they are 6-10 +, you realize people are reading that and laughing at you.

The Bulls have been unable to trade Vucevic because they don't want the 2 or 3 players in return to equal his $21M who they have zero use for. There are several teams that would like to have Vuc instead of the $5M guy they signed but didn't have anything to offer the Bulls but empty contracts. If the Bulls would buy out Vuc he'd get signed for for some minimal salary in a week. And I think that's just what's going to happen.

[Red Larrivee]

So I guess Vuc isn't going anywhere.

Honestly really disappointing that we couldn't get ANYTHING for him. The Suns gave up 2 firsts for Mark Williams, surely they would've done 1 for Vooch instead.

The Hornets and Celtics are starting one of the Plumlees and Queta at center, they wouldn't throw us a few 2nds for Vooch?

The more and more I think about it, the more I believe the Bulls might have the worst center rotation in the league.

Aside from Vooch we have two draft busts who can't shoot to save their lives and provide very little else in the way of defense.

There is no logical reason for an NBA team to trade a first round pick for a 35 year old center that they can sign next summer for a third of his current salary. Be for real. Hell, there's better uses of trading second round picks too.

[Tetlak]

So I guess Vuc isn't going anywhere.

Honestly really disappointing that we couldn't get ANYTHING for him. The Suns gave up 2 firsts for Mark Williams, surely they would've done 1 for Vooch instead.

The Hornets and Celtics are starting one of the Plumlees and Queta at center, they wouldn't throw us a few 2nds for Vooch?

The more and more I think about it, the more I believe the Bulls might have the worst center rotation in the league.

Aside from Vooch we have two draft busts who can't shoot to save their lives and provide very little else in the way of defense.

There is no logical reason for an NBA team to trade a first round pick for a 35 year old center that they can sign next summer for a third of his current salary. Be for real. Hell, there's better uses of trading second round picks too.

Wasting a year of your contention window is criminal, especially if you're a team full of mid to late 30 year olds. Looking at you, GSW

[sco]

Some of you people are equally driven by hatred of some players and just over rating your BB IQ as an expert evaluator of talent that you look like fools when you post.

If you think that Vucevic is so awful that both Collins and Smith are better and two kids who haven't filled out enough to be PF's are better centers because they are 6-10 +, you realize people are reading that and laughing at you.

The Bulls have been unable to trade Vucevic because they don't want the 2 or 3 players in return to equal his $21M who they have zero use for. There are several teams that would like to have Vuc instead of the $5M guy they signed but didn't have anything to offer the Bulls but empty contracts. If the Bulls would buy out Vuc he'd get signed for for some minimal salary in a week. And I think that's just what's going to happen.

I am a big anti-Vuc guy. And, to be fair, Vuc is not a terrible player. He does a lot of things well. The problem is more about the impact Vuc has on the Bulls. His arguably league-worst defense from the C spot makes everyone else on the team look that much worse because they all need to hedge on defense to shore-up his poor paint defense. That not only causes losses, but it also lowers the trade value of other guys because they are probably better defenders than they seem. Offensively, he's decent; however, his effectiveness requires a near-constant feeding the ball to him...diminishing opportunities for guys like Matas to step into larger roles, which may be the most important step in this team's development next season.

I will also say that when I watched the Bulls when Vuc was out for 5 or so games last season, the shift to Collins/Smith, two guys who don't score as much, but were able to find ways to contribute on both ends without needing plays run for them, made for a better looking and more fun to watch Bulls team.

I would be thrilled if the Bulls actually buy Vuc out. I think it will be a big step forward to the Bulls being a better team.

[sco]

I was happy to see rumors that some teams are waiting to see if we buyout Vuc. Man, that would make next season really worth watching!

[ChettheJet]

Well there's sure no prospect for a trade. Unless some team has a starting center injured for the season before the deadline it's no happening. I doubt the deadline would matter. We're stuck with a buyout or a full year of Vuc. I'd say it's too aggressive for AK to buy him out, I'm willing to be one of the few who thinks the money doesn't matter tho the Bulls, it's more of a bad look for the team and Vuc to be willing to pay him to go away.

[HomoSapien]

I would really dislike Kuminga. He is a black hole, that still hasn't really found his place, despite being around a championship level franchise.

What if it's for PW straight up?

I have more faith in Pat turning it around than him, but having both compete on the same roster could help both.

One is a guy who doesn't care if he plays. The other desperately wants to. I'm putting my money on that guy, personally.

[Chi town]

I’d love a Vuc dump.

We won’t be seeing it until after the deadline.

[sco]

Well there's sure no prospect for a trade. Unless some team has a starting center injured for the season before the deadline it's no happening. I doubt the deadline would matter. We're stuck with a buyout or a full year of Vuc. I'd say it's too aggressive for AK to buy him out, I'm willing to be one of the few who thinks the money doesn't matter tho the Bulls, it's more of a bad look for the team and Vuc to be willing to pay him to go away.

I don't know about the bad look. He expressed an interest to play for a contender. We are "embracing our youth movement". Win/win.

The irony of the situation is that all the teams mentioned as being interested in Vuc would have him come off the bench. If somehow we could do that I'd be fine with him, and think he'd play better.

[Dez]

What if it's for PW straight up?

I have more faith in Pat turning it around than him, but having both compete on the same roster could help both.

One is a guy who doesn't care if he plays. The other desperately wants to. I'm putting my money on that guy, personally.

Your putting your money on the guy who has very little basketball ability, thinks he's a star despite showing nothing that could lead to this and wants 30M a season? If you want to put your money on a player with a potato for a brain then I don’t know what you think will happen?

He doesn't just want to play, he wants to play as the star he thinks he is.

[Red8911]

No do not buy out Vuc just to help out Lebron/Lakers get another quality big for free.

He could still get traded by the start of the season but if he doesn’t there’s really no problem with him staying another year.

A buy out is unlikely unless Vuc himself pushes for it and takes a pay cut to make it happen.

[dougthonus]

No do not buy out Vuc just to help out Lebron/Lakers get another quality big for free.

He could still get traded by the start of the season but if he doesn’t there’s really no problem with him staying another year.

A buy out is unlikely unless Vuc himself pushes for it and takes a pay cut to make it happen.

Fear not, Vuc isn't a quality big. He is a vet min player. it doesn't matter if anyone gets him for free.