2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft - Volume III

[76ciology]

I don't like the character attacks part of the process

always feels scummy

The good thing is he was also a poor player in college, so it’s easy to tell that the criticism isn’t rooted in character issues.

[76ciology]

At first, I thought VJ was capped as a high-impact role player. But after digging deeper, I think his archetype has real star potential. He’s much closer to freshman year Oladipo, Westbrook or even Donovan Mitchell than to guys like De’Anthony Melton or Cason Wallace.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Spurs drafts VJ over Harper, because of his shooting concerns, or if Hornets or Pelicans pay a premium for VJ at #3.

[76ciology]

Honestly, Bailey’s numbers and archetype are among the clearest red flags we’ve seen in a prospect for atleast the last five years for a top 3 pick. Anyone who understands how the game has evolved knows why players like Kuminga and Wiggins, who would’ve been more valued in the 90s to early 2000 era, have seen their stock drop. The modern game places a premium on IQ, ball-handling, passing and efficiency, and Bailey lacks in all three.

[eyeatoma]

With my vote change, I've officially switched to Edgjecomb all though I hold out hope for either Harper or Tre Johnson.

[Mik317]

i am okay with anyone at this point

I want Harper badly tho lol

hate those leaks from last week getting my hopes up

[Stanford]

With my vote change, I've officially switched to Edgjecomb all though I hold out hope for either Harper or Tre Johnson.

[Kobblehead]

With my vote change, I've officially switched to Edgjecomb all though I hold out hope for either Harper or Tre Johnson.

It's possible!

[Stanford]

With my vote change, I've officially switched to Edgjecomb all though I hold out hope for either Harper or Tre Johnson.

It's possible!

He's a very unusual prospect. I've never seen one like him!

[Sixersftw]

I haven't been able to catch up on all the drama till now but, brother, I am officially overthinking it.

[Negrodamus]

Can we bring back the old poll so I can have a reason to punch air(ious) again?

[Arsenal]

No to VJ Melton or Kon Kennard at #3 overall.

[76ciology]

I think Dylan Harper’s shooting is a major concern that’s being overlooked because of his elite positional size, defense, playmaking, and ability to get to the rim. But the truth is, if he can’t shoot, none of that really matters, we’ve seen how that played out with MCW.

[ProcessDoctor]

I think Dylan Harper’s shooting is a major concern that’s being overlooked because of his elite positional size, defense, playmaking, and ability to get to the rim. But the truth is, if he can’t shoot, none of that really matters, we’ve seen how that played out with MCW.

Although I'd still bet money on Harper becoming a superior NBA player than VJ, would you be shocked if VJ turned out to be the better of the two?

[sodmoraes]

With my vote change, I've officially switched to Edgjecomb all though I hold out hope for either Harper or Tre Johnson.

Even you man? I´m disappoint son, you are out of the Book of Ace:

[okboomer]

I see more and more are finally coming around to not taking Ace Brooks at 3. Better late than never I guess .

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

No...I like the idea of Ace. It's tempting...The eye test is what does it for me. The eye test also did it for me with Okafor, Simmons, and Fultz. We've seen this before. That's all I'm saying. Go with Edgecombe or Harper if he's available.

[Phillybul]

I think Dylan Harper’s shooting is a major concern that’s being overlooked because of his elite positional size, defense, playmaking, and ability to get to the rim. But the truth is, if he can’t shoot, none of that really matters, we’ve seen how that played out with MCW.

What issues with his shooting are major?

[76ciology]

I think Dylan Harper’s shooting is a major concern that’s being overlooked because of his elite positional size, defense, playmaking, and ability to get to the rim. But the truth is, if he can’t shoot, none of that really matters, we’ve seen how that played out with MCW.

What issues with his shooting are major?

On 3s, Harper shot just 29.9% against top 150 and top 50 opponents, padding his numbers with 40% shooting against bottom 215 teams.

In the halfcourt, he shot only 30% on both threes and midrange attempts across all opponents.

Across four years of high school, he averaged just 32.5% from three.

Kevin O’Connor noted: “I watched all 104 of Dylan Harper’s misses at Rutgers, 24 either hit the backboard, were airballs, or got blocked, and nearly a third veered noticeably left or right. On catch-and-shoot attempts, 22.2% of his misses went left and 19.4% went right.”

Visually, his shot is flat with a low release point. In hindsight, calling it a “major concern” might be overstating it, but it’s definitely a concern.

[76ciology]

I think Dylan Harper’s shooting is a major concern that’s being overlooked because of his elite positional size, defense, playmaking, and ability to get to the rim. But the truth is, if he can’t shoot, none of that really matters, we’ve seen how that played out with MCW.

If i were to put my money, it would still be on Harper but it wouldn’t surprised me if VJ turned out to be better.

[Mik317]

MCW also couldn't finish. Harper is ELITE at the rim. He is a capable shooter rn to imo. Like VJ's handle, its a bit overblown imo