The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3

[One_and_Done]

I've heard this alot, where ppl say 'fine. They don't get KD!!!' The problem is when you say that about every team's offer, what's left? If those rumoured Wolves/Raptors offers are really out there, then I agree you should take them, but are they?

The reporting is mixed. Some sources say the Wolves won't do it unless KD is willing to go there, and the Raps rumours are that they 'might' be willing to move the #9, meaning right now it's not on the table.

I haven't seen anything saying the Rockets and Spurs have already put forward their absolute final offer and are done with any further discussions.

There is a report that Spurs are keeping their assets for a young star and the Rockets are offering Green and no future picks.

That doesn't sound like a team that is seriously interested in KD compared with the Wolves/Raptors offer.

Do the Wolves/Raptors offers even exist though? As I said, it's all very 'maybe' they'd offer that, and in the case of the Wolves with a major caveat of 'KD has to be ok with it'

[lilfishi22]

I haven't seen anything saying the Rockets and Spurs have already put forward their absolute final offer and are done with any further discussions.

There is a report that Spurs are keeping their assets for a young star and the Rockets are offering Green and no future picks.

That doesn't sound like a team that is seriously interested in KD compared with the Wolves/Raptors offer.

Do the Wolves/Raptors offers even exist though? As I said, it's all very 'maybe' they'd offer that, and in the case of the Wolves with a major caveat of 'KD has to be ok with it'

Even if it was on the table, there's nothing stopping them from pulling the offer or changing it. Just like there's nothing stopping Rockets or Spurs to jump back in with a better offer.

[Blonde]

I don't get why people are poopoo-ing Vassell and Green and Gobert but at the same time getting excited about Barrett and Poeltl?

For me it comes down to the fact that we already have like 4 SGs on our roster and neither Green/Vassell are good enough to justify moving Booker out of position.

[thamadkant]

If Spurs are being frugal which they always do.. and Rockets are being cheap...
Then just ask Wolves to add a future on top of 17 and pull the trigger with them... or Raptors.

[One_and_Done]

If Spurs are being frugal which they always do.. and Rockets are being cheap...
Then just ask Wolves to add a future on top of 17 and pull the trigger with them... or Raptors.

Ok. Now for the sake of argument assume the Raptors/Wolves trades don't actually exist. What trade do you do then?

[thamadkant]

If Spurs are being frugal which they always do.. and Rockets are being cheap...
Then just ask Wolves to add a future on top of 17 and pull the trigger with them... or Raptors.

Ok. Now for the sake of argument assume the Raptors/Wolves trades don't actually exist. What trade do you do then?

You keep and extend KD and stick the middle finger up the teams.

Someone will get desperate by trade deadline

[One_and_Done]

If Spurs are being frugal which they always do.. and Rockets are being cheap...
Then just ask Wolves to add a future on top of 17 and pull the trigger with them... or Raptors.

Ok. Now for the sake of argument assume the Raptors/Wolves trades don't actually exist. What trade do you do then?

You keep and extend KD and stick the middle finger up the teams.

Someone will get desperate by trade deadline

He's not going to extend though. Assuming that, then what?

[thamadkant]

Ok. Now for the sake of argument assume the Raptors/Wolves trades don't actually exist. What trade do you do then?

You keep and extend KD and stick the middle finger up the teams.

Someone will get desperate by trade deadline

He's not going to extend though. Assuming that, then what?

Then you let him expire. It's unlikely since KD was treated by Suns well.

But Free Agent KD much harder to sign because Rockets, Spurs, Wolves don't have cap space

[thamadkant]

KD will likely extend with Suns than be traded to a bad location for him. He knows signed longer mean he can wait longer for a situation that meets his and Suns requirements. NBA is very fluid.

[Sunsdeuce]

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So Jabari is on the table apparently…

Poor Green. Poor guy averages 20 PPg and still no one wants him. Got to make him feel like dog doo.

[BobbieL]

KD will likely extend with Suns than be traded to a bad location for him. He knows signed longer mean he can wait longer for a situation that meets his and Suns requirements. NBA is very fluid.

Thats risky if they are trying to get under apron levels. And truly, the Suns need to move on from Durant unless you want a repeat of 36 wins and no playoffs and no future.

[thamadkant]

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So Jabari is on the table apparently…

Poor Green. Poor guy averages 20 PPg and still no one wants him. Got to make him feel like dog doo.

I understand Suns don't want him because Suns have Booker and Beal, 110M already committed to Shooting Guards.

But a young team or someone like Lakers or Cavs can use another 20ppg scorer.

[dremill24]

I don't get why people are poopoo-ing Vassell and Green and Gobert but at the same time getting excited about Barrett and Poeltl?

For me it comes down to the fact that we already have like 4 SGs on our roster and neither Green/Vassell are good enough to justify moving Booker out of position.

My point is: Barrett isn't any different in that regard.

[thamadkant]

KD will likely extend with Suns than be traded to a bad location for him. He knows signed longer mean he can wait longer for a situation that meets his and Suns requirements. NBA is very fluid.

Thats risky if they are trying to get under apron levels. And truly, the Suns need to move on from Durant unless you want a repeat of 36 wins and no playoffs and no future.

Other teams know this hence the low ball offers.

Best action is to make the move they don't expect the Suns to do... it messes up their plans and then react under pressure 2 weeks before trade deadline.

[Blonde]

I don't get why people are poopoo-ing Vassell and Green and Gobert but at the same time getting excited about Barrett and Poeltl?

For me it comes down to the fact that we already have like 4 SGs on our roster and neither Green/Vassell are good enough to justify moving Booker out of position.

My point is: Barrett isn't any different in that regard.

I agree that Barrett is not much to be excited over, but I've always viewed him as more of a SF anyway. And the reporting has been that it would be Poeltle + Quickley OR Barrett, and Quickley would be my clear choice.

[matt131]

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[thamadkant]

Ayton and Toumani

For

Grayson Allen and Nick Richards.


That is what Suna did

[Qwigglez]

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Can the Suns get under the 2nd apron to allow this? Micic has a club option worth a little over $8 million I assume Suns will decline this.

KD, Grayson Allen, Royce O'Neal for Quickley, Barrett, Poeltl, and the 9th pick would work for me. This would be a good start to the overhaul of the roster.

[One_and_Done]

KD will likely extend with Suns than be traded to a bad location for him. He knows signed longer mean he can wait longer for a situation that meets his and Suns requirements. NBA is very fluid.

Thats risky if they are trying to get under apron levels. And truly, the Suns need to move on from Durant unless you want a repeat of 36 wins and no playoffs and no future.

Other teams know this hence the low ball offers.

Best action is to make the move they don't expect the Suns to do... it messes up their plans and then react under pressure 2 weeks before trade deadline.

Bit it doesn't affect any of KDs three preferred teams at all really.

[dremill24]

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Can the Suns get under the 2nd apron to allow this? Micic has a club option worth a little over $8 million I assume Suns will decline this.

KD, Grayson Allen, Royce O'Neal for Quickley, Barrett, Poeltl, and the 9th pick would work for me. This would be a good start to the overhaul of the roster.

It says a "combination of" in that tweet so that leads me to believe it means some, not all of them.

But just for funsies...technically, if they ditch Micic and Martin (easy to do), and do something like KD, Allen, Royce, Richards for RJ, IQ, Poeltl..that should work in that they would end the deal under the second apron, allowing contract aggregation.