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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#681 » by Iscull » Mon Jun 16, 2025 11:38 pm

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The Spurs are way too smart to bring in George and that contract. If they give up #2, it's going to be for another lottery pick and additional picks, or an impact player. George and Clarkson are far from that.


I tend to agree, just throwing out ideas.

The reason they'd do it is if they lost out on Durant sweepstakes and think PG can return to his 2023/2024 form. With Fox and Wemby, it would be a decent 3rd piece.


They're too smart of an organization to actually believe that. It's going to take a desperate organization with awful management to even pick the phone up to discuss George.


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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#682 » by 76ciology » Tue Jun 17, 2025 9:30 am

Grizzlies:
Joel Embiid
#3 pick
2028 Clippers’ first
2029 Clippers’ pick swap
Drummond
Eric Gordon

Sixers:
Ja Morant
Jaren Jackson Jr.

Maxey/McCain
Morant/Grimes
Paul George/Justin Edwards
Jaren Jackson Jr. /Oubre
Adem Bona/Broome
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#683 » by mjkvol » Tue Jun 17, 2025 11:11 am

76ciology wrote:Grizzlies:
Joel Embiid
#3 pick
2028 Clippers’ first
2029 Clippers’ pick swap
Drummond
Eric Gordon

Sixers:
Ja Morant
Jaren Jackson Jr.

Maxey/McCain
Morant/Grimes
Paul George/Justin Edwards
Jaren Jackson Jr. /Oubre
Adem Bona/Broome


C'mon, please stop. How the hell does MEM sell this Nico-esque atrocity to their fan base? It's not like they're unloading aging 'stars' like Ainge did the BKN, these are star players in their prime.

Also, I sincerely hope that Morey is smart enough to avoid drafting the certain bust that Broome will be.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#684 » by the_process » Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:20 pm

Foshan wrote:Bane gets 4 firsts, and we trade down to move Embiid. Sure there is more too it, but no thanks. This is sellling super low on embiid.


As long as you aren't paying to move him, there's no such thing as selling low on Embiid. Time to move on.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#685 » by dckingsfan » Tue Jun 17, 2025 9:35 pm

Is the feeling that other teams won't be interested in Embiid until he shows he is healthy or is an expiring?
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#686 » by the_process » Tue Jun 17, 2025 10:39 pm

dckingsfan wrote:Is the feeling that other teams won't be interested in Embiid until he shows he is healthy or is an expiring?


I feel like there would be a few teams who would offer something like expirings/bad contracts with a protected future pick or lower current pick and take a chance they can get something out of him in the next four years.

This is of course separate from the question of would Morey take a deal like that? And the answer is probably not.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#687 » by PhillyFan11 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 12:43 am

Sixers out: #3, Drummond, Gordon
Sixers in: #6, ‘27 top 10 protected 1st via Sac, Devin Carter, KyShawn George

Wizards out: #6, Marcus Smart, KyShawn George
Wizards in: #3, Valanciunas, Drummond, Gordon, T. Davis

Kings out: Top 10 protected ‘27 1st, Carter, Valanciunas, T. Davis
Kings in: Marcus Smart
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#688 » by ProcessDoctor » Wed Jun 18, 2025 1:18 am

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dckingsfan wrote:Is the feeling that other teams won't be interested in Embiid until he shows he is healthy or is an expiring?


I feel like there would be a few teams who would offer something like expirings/bad contracts with a protected future pick or lower current pick and take a chance they can get something out of him in the next four years.

This is of course separate from the question of would Morey take a deal like that? And the answer is probably not.


I like your Bulls idea, but it'd have to include #12 to bite...Embiid/Oubre for Vucevic/Smith/Williams/#12

Draft Edgecombe and CMB.

Maxey/McCain/Butler
Grimes/Edgecombe/Gordon
George/Edwards/Council
Smith/Williams/CMB
Vucevic/Bona/Drummond

Can re-route Vucevic now or at the deadline for future 2nds, etc. I think we gotta do our best to accumulate assets to eventually (i.e., 2 years) trade George's big expiring + picks for a star to go with Maxey, McCain, #3, etc.
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Grimes/Edgecombe/Gordon
Oubre/Edwards
George/Watford/Barlow
Embiid/Bona/Drummond/Broome
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#689 » by dckingsfan » Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:02 am

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dckingsfan wrote:Is the feeling that other teams won't be interested in Embiid until he shows he is healthy or is an expiring?

I feel like there would be a few teams who would offer something like expirings/bad contracts with a protected future pick or lower current pick and take a chance they can get something out of him in the next four years.

This is of course separate from the question of would Morey take a deal like that? And the answer is probably not.

I like your Bulls idea, but it'd have to include #12 to bite...Embiid/Oubre for Vucevic/Smith/Williams/#12

Draft Edgecombe and CMB.

Maxey/McCain/Butler
Grimes/Edgecombe/Gordon
George/Edwards/Council
Smith/Williams/CMB
Vucevic/Bona/Drummond

Can re-route Vucevic now or at the deadline for future 2nds, etc. I think we gotta do our best to accumulate assets to eventually (i.e., 2 years) trade George's big expiring + picks for a star to go with Maxey, McCain, #3, etc.

Put this on the Bulls forum, guessing you would get a hard no. They are just starting their rebuild, I am guessing they are also looking to acquire draft assets. My guess is that they will do this by absorbing bad contracts with draft assets.

Maybe Phoenix, Beal for Embiid straight up (although Beal could reject the the deal) and guessing Morey says no.

But this answers the question - there are some that think Embiid is worth an FRP or multiple FRPs.

My 1/2 cent.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#690 » by 76ciology » Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:16 am

Wizards:
#7
#23

Pelicans:
#3
Oubre
Drummond

Dejounte
Edgecombe
Trey Murphy
Zion
Missi


Sixers:
#6
Herb Jones
- have to trade up or else we miss on Kneuppel

Tyrese Maxey/Jared McCain
Quentin Grimes/Kon Kneuppel
Paul George/Edwards
Herb Jones/Yabu
Joel Embiid/Bona
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#691 » by the_process » Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:06 am

76ciology wrote:Wizards:
#7
#23

Pelicans:
#3
Oubre
Drummond

Dejounte
Edgecombe
Trey Murphy
Zion
Missi


Sixers:
#6
Herb Jones
- have to trade up or else we miss on Kneuppel

Tyrese Maxey/Jared McCain
Quentin Grimes/Kon Kneuppel
Paul George/Edwards
Herb Jones/Yabu
Joel Embiid/Bona


If you’re going to do that, just take 6 & 18 from the Wiz. Herb Jones isn’t making or breaking anything.

Maybe you combine that with the Bulls idea?

CHI gets Embiid, Oubre, Gordon, and 18
PHI gets Middleton, Vuc, Smith, 6, and 12
WSH gets P Williams, Z Collins, J Carter, and 3
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#692 » by mjkvol » Wed Jun 18, 2025 12:25 pm

the_process wrote:
76ciology wrote:Wizards:
#7
#23

Pelicans:
#3
Oubre
Drummond

Dejounte
Edgecombe
Trey Murphy
Zion
Missi


Sixers:
#6
Herb Jones
- have to trade up or else we miss on Kneuppel

Tyrese Maxey/Jared McCain
Quentin Grimes/Kon Kneuppel
Paul George/Edwards
Herb Jones/Yabu
Joel Embiid/Bona


If you’re going to do that, just take 6 & 18 from the Wiz. Herb Jones isn’t making or breaking anything.

Maybe you combine that with the Bulls idea?

CHI gets Embiid, Oubre, Gordon, and 18
PHI gets Middleton, Vuc, Smith, 6, and 12
WSH gets P Williams, Z Collins, J Carter, and 3


You guys need to explain why any rebuilding team would want any part of Embiid or George. I get them taking our aging expirings, but why on earth would any rebuilding team or a young, ascending team saddle themselves with either of those albatrosses?
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#693 » by Iscull » Wed Jun 18, 2025 12:41 pm

mjkvol wrote:
the_process wrote:
76ciology wrote:Wizards:
#7
#23

Pelicans:
#3
Oubre
Drummond

Dejounte
Edgecombe
Trey Murphy
Zion
Missi


Sixers:
#6
Herb Jones
- have to trade up or else we miss on Kneuppel

Tyrese Maxey/Jared McCain
Quentin Grimes/Kon Kneuppel
Paul George/Edwards
Herb Jones/Yabu
Joel Embiid/Bona


If you’re going to do that, just take 6 & 18 from the Wiz. Herb Jones isn’t making or breaking anything.

Maybe you combine that with the Bulls idea?

CHI gets Embiid, Oubre, Gordon, and 18
PHI gets Middleton, Vuc, Smith, 6, and 12
WSH gets P Williams, Z Collins, J Carter, and 3


You guys need to explain why any rebuilding team would want any part of Embiid or George. I get them taking our aging expirings, but why on earth would any rebuilding team or a young, ascending team saddle themselves with either of those albatrosses?


I don't think anyone takes Embiid, but PG is realistic. He doesn't care about playing, so you get paid to take on his contract (2 FRP's) and he doesn't impact your tank.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#694 » by mjkvol » Wed Jun 18, 2025 12:50 pm

Iscull wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
the_process wrote:
If you’re going to do that, just take 6 & 18 from the Wiz. Herb Jones isn’t making or breaking anything.

Maybe you combine that with the Bulls idea?

CHI gets Embiid, Oubre, Gordon, and 18
PHI gets Middleton, Vuc, Smith, 6, and 12
WSH gets P Williams, Z Collins, J Carter, and 3


You guys need to explain why any rebuilding team would want any part of Embiid or George. I get them taking our aging expirings, but why on earth would any rebuilding team or a young, ascending team saddle themselves with either of those albatrosses?


I don't think anyone takes Embiid, but PG is realistic. He doesn't care about playing, so you get paid to take on his contract (2 FRP's) and he doesn't impact your tank.


That's a good point, George has pretty much entered tank commander mode at this point. I just don't see anyone giving up value to get him now, which is why sacrificing 2025-26 to pump and dump him at the deadline while getting a full season look at our young guys is the smart play.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#695 » by Stanford » Wed Jun 18, 2025 12:56 pm

I guess I'm the only idiot left who thinks PG can provide positive production to the Sixers.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#696 » by Iscull » Wed Jun 18, 2025 12:56 pm

mjkvol wrote:
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You guys need to explain why any rebuilding team would want any part of Embiid or George. I get them taking our aging expirings, but why on earth would any rebuilding team or a young, ascending team saddle themselves with either of those albatrosses?


I don't think anyone takes Embiid, but PG is realistic. He doesn't care about playing, so you get paid to take on his contract (2 FRP's) and he doesn't impact your tank.


That's a good point, George has pretty much entered tank commander mode at this point. I just don't see anyone giving up value to get him now, which is why sacrificing 2025-26 to pump and dump him at the deadline while getting a full season look at our young guys is the smart play.


Agreed.

I'm not on board with sacrificing our #3, I think that's too much just to offload PG. That said, if we add some future FRP's by trading back - I'd absolutely look to package him up.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#697 » by the_process » Wed Jun 18, 2025 1:02 pm

mjkvol wrote:
the_process wrote:
76ciology wrote:Wizards:
#7
#23

Pelicans:
#3
Oubre
Drummond

Dejounte
Edgecombe
Trey Murphy
Zion
Missi


Sixers:
#6
Herb Jones
- have to trade up or else we miss on Kneuppel

Tyrese Maxey/Jared McCain
Quentin Grimes/Kon Kneuppel
Paul George/Edwards
Herb Jones/Yabu
Joel Embiid/Bona


If you’re going to do that, just take 6 & 18 from the Wiz. Herb Jones isn’t making or breaking anything.

Maybe you combine that with the Bulls idea?

CHI gets Embiid, Oubre, Gordon, and 18
PHI gets Middleton, Vuc, Smith, 6, and 12
WSH gets P Williams, Z Collins, J Carter, and 3


You guys need to explain why any rebuilding team would want any part of Embiid or George. I get them taking our aging expirings, but why on earth would any rebuilding team or a young, ascending team saddle themselves with either of those albatrosses?


I don't think the Bulls are really rebuilding. I think they're rudderless, waiting for a current to take them in a direction. They are a team that has chased name guys many times since Jordan left, and never signed any. I suspect given a chance to get a guy like Embiid at a reasonable price, they would be interested.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#698 » by the_process » Wed Jun 18, 2025 1:05 pm

Stanford wrote:I guess I'm the only idiot left who thinks PG can provide positive production to the Sixers.


Nah. He definitely can. But we all just need to recognize PG DGAF at this point in his career. He's drifting. So if the Sixers are mediocre/bad, that's how PG is going to play. He'd probably look like a damn All-NBA guy again if he was back on OKC. :lol:
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#699 » by mjkvol » Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:51 pm

Iscull wrote:
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I don't think anyone takes Embiid, but PG is realistic. He doesn't care about playing, so you get paid to take on his contract (2 FRP's) and he doesn't impact your tank.


That's a good point, George has pretty much entered tank commander mode at this point. I just don't see anyone giving up value to get him now, which is why sacrificing 2025-26 to pump and dump him at the deadline while getting a full season look at our young guys is the smart play.


Agreed.

I'm not on board with sacrificing our #3, I think that's too much just to offload PG. That said, if we add some future FRP's by trading back - I'd absolutely look to package him up.


My view since we got #3 is the only way I move the pick is for a lower lottery pick plus additional pick(s). If someone wants George in that kind of trade, fine, but I have no use for win-now pieces unless they fit the Maxey timeline or younger. If we can move George for picks plus expirings, fine, but that's highly unlikely.

The best bet is to play out 25-26 as if George is part of the plan, and hope to pump and dump him.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#700 » by mjkvol » Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:54 pm

Stanford wrote:I guess I'm the only idiot left who thinks PG can provide positive production to the Sixers.


I hope he absolutely lights it up and makes the all star team, then imagine the haul we could get at the deadline.

But that's entering delusion territory.
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