Stein/Fischer: Toronto willing to deal RJ Barrett, IQ, Poeltl for Significant Upgrades // #9 Available

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[CazOnReal]

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Cris Davis is not a reporter. They're a Twitter user with a checkmark. They have no sources, they are at best aggregating previous rumors and presenting them as a matter of fact and have been wrong about a lot of previous ""reports"".

[Potential]

If Sabonis is on this team I'll be out the door until he leaves. That guy is one of the worst and most useless players I've ever seen especially in the playoffs

[ForeverTFC]

So we’re basically safe. We don’t even have the top offer of the undesirable destinations. Even if we were willing to do the trade, Kawhi style, it would require the Wolves to back out first.

The Minny offer is conditional on KD wanting to re-sign there. I get why. If their offer includes prospects and potentially a pick they literally have nothing left to work with after re-signing Naz/Randle.

Our offer, if Masai is planning cap space as an out, likely doesn't have that condition.

Like the Kawhi trade, Masai may be the only guy at the table willing to make that gamble.

Which is exactly why I think we land him.

Success requires being bold and Masai has both.

There won't be anyone left to play with these guys if they manage to do that. Giannis and KD are $110m collectively. You'd have to trade Poeltl + 3 of IQ/Scottie/Ingram/Barrett to send the right salaries out.

You're going to be left with a starting lineup of:
Shead
Whatever you can get for the 1 guy you didn't send out
KD
Giannis
Mogbo

.....

[Westside Gunn]

Some of these names since Giannis was dropped have been meh.

And that durant proposal is all kinds of messed up. You will get rid of all the depth for a rental.

Malik monk like why

[Brinbe]

I'm not surprised.I said they are being used in the PR game and you said no they aren't Lol which, as I've shown you repeatedly that they are.
I don't know why you have an issue with this. And as I told you before, they very well could still take one of these offers if/when they strike out.

I think you just have a poor comprehension of language and what anything actually means.

you're going on and on about pr games when that's just how trade negotiations have worked in the NBA for the last 30-40 years, if not longer.

it's okay, bro. stick to posting links.

The only one who has bad comprehension is you since for the past 5 hours you have difficulty understanding how negotiations work lol and how teams can be used as leverage in order to better themselves. Salami.

again, you're repeating what EVERYONE ALREADY KNOWS. how are you this dense? lmfao. again, why are you so upset at the game being played? no one is denying that the suns are going to the rockets, heat, spurs and saying, this is what the wolves/raptors are offering, now will you match it?

that's hardly pr games. that's negotiations.

holy crap, these zoomers are fried. too much chatgpt for you.

do you think the suns are stringing us along just to take a crappier deal? that's the only way your theory about pr games makes any sense, which it doesn't, like at all.

[MainEvent]

I'm not really interested in Durant, but Jakob + Quickley + Barrett + 9th is definitely way too much for KD. I don't think there's any truth to that rumour

Shead
Dick / Walter
Ingram / Agbaji / Battle
Durant
Barnes / Mogbo / Chomche

Just look at what's left. That's an awful team right there, I'll tell you that for free

+ we have won 30 games or less the prior 2 seasons. Haven't done anything in the playoffs and have an unproven coach.. why are we trying to get 1 year of KD? this is not the Kawhi situation at all.. those were winning teams where we maxed out how far we were going to get with Derozan and Val as starters

[ForeverTFC]

Some of these names since Giannis was dropped have been meh.

And that durant proposal is all kinds of messed up. You will get rid of all the depth for a rental.

Malik monk like why

Monk is only 27 and locked in for 2 years at $19 AAV. He's a good get for the right price.

[WuTang_OG]

I think you just have a poor comprehension of language and what anything actually means.

you're going on and on about pr games when that's just how trade negotiations have worked in the NBA for the last 30-40 years, if not longer.

it's okay, bro. stick to posting links.

The only one who has bad comprehension is you since for the past 5 hours you have difficulty understanding how negotiations work lol and how teams can be used as leverage in order to better themselves. Salami.

again, you're repeating what EVERYONE ALREADY KNOWS. how are you this dense? lmfao. again, why are you so upset at the game being played?

holy crap, these zoomers are fried. too much chatgpt for you.

do you think the suns are stringing us along just to take a crappier deal?

Jesus Christ. The suns are doing what they want by spewing what Toronto and Minny is offering (even if its not real) WITH HOPES OF GETTING BETTER DEALS FROM OTHER TEAMS. This is the definition of being used as leverage. Why are you still spinning your wheels on this?

[CazOnReal]

again, you're repeating what EVERYONE ALREADY KNOWS. how are you this dense? lmfao. again, why are you so upset at the game being played?

holy crap, these zoomers are fried. too much chatgpt for you.

do you think the suns are stringing us along just to take a crappier deal?

Aight you need to chill.

You've been at it being hostile as hell to posters on here for a while over what is ultimately minor disagreeable matters and making it very personal and very toxic for everyone. Calm down and quit being a prick.

[Brinbe]

The only one who has bad comprehension is you since for the past 5 hours you have difficulty understanding how negotiations work lol and how teams can be used as leverage in order to better themselves. Salami.

again, you're repeating what EVERYONE ALREADY KNOWS. how are you this dense? lmfao. again, why are you so upset at the game being played?

holy crap, these zoomers are fried. too much chatgpt for you.

do you think the suns are stringing us along just to take a crappier deal?

Jesus Christ. The suns are doing what they want by spewing what Toronto and Minny is offering (even if its not real) WITH HOPES OF GETTING BETTER DEALS FROM OTHER TEAMS. This is the definition of being used as leverage. Why are you still spinning your wheels on this?

THAT'S COMPLETELY NORMAL NEGOTIATIONS WHY ARE YOU SO PRESSED

and just because they're doing it doesn't mean they're getting what they want out of it as the rockets, spurs, heat aren't budging.

so what does it matter in the end?

[ForeverTFC]

The only one who has bad comprehension is you since for the past 5 hours you have difficulty understanding how negotiations work lol and how teams can be used as leverage in order to better themselves. Salami.

again, you're repeating what EVERYONE ALREADY KNOWS. how are you this dense? lmfao. again, why are you so upset at the game being played?

holy crap, these zoomers are fried. too much chatgpt for you.

do you think the suns are stringing us along just to take a crappier deal?

Jesus Christ. The suns are doing what they want by spewing what Toronto and Minny is offering (even if its not real) WITH HOPES OF GETTING BETTER DEALS FROM OTHER TEAMS. This is the definition of being used as leverage. Why are you still spinning your wheels on this?

Is it really leverage if no one believes them?

[TGM]

I like Masai is doing and there is a lot of reporting that is being taken out of context. We are not giving, RJ, IQ, Jakob and 9 for KD. It is a combination of that. I still think RJ, Walter, Jakob and 9 for KD and 29 is what’s on the table. For those worried about KD being a FA, he will want to get paid on his next contract and go to a contender. So he either re-ups with Toronto for Max, or it will have to be a S and T. In any situation Toronto gets back a starter level guy like IQ or Jakob and a first even if things don’t work out next year. Super low risk in my mind.

Masai I think is going to continue to discuss deals with other teams to put pressure on the Suns to pull the trigger. The suns on the other end probably want to hold out to as close to the draft as possible hoping someone ponies up a bit more value.

However, I don’t see the other teams upping their offers and I think KD would prefer Toronto over Minny.

Question are what other deals Masai has up his sleeve.

Also wondering if the outcome of all this is Scottie ends up playing the point.

Deal one RJ, Ochai, Jakob and 9 for KD and 29

Second deal Quickley, Walter. 29th and a future first for Sabonis.

Scottie
Ingram
KD
Mogbo
Sabonis

[WuTang_OG]

again, you're repeating what EVERYONE ALREADY KNOWS. how are you this dense? lmfao. again, why are you so upset at the game being played?

holy crap, these zoomers are fried. too much chatgpt for you.

do you think the suns are stringing us along just to take a crappier deal?

Jesus Christ. The suns are doing what they want by spewing what Toronto and Minny is offering (even if its not real) WITH HOPES OF GETTING BETTER DEALS FROM OTHER TEAMS. This is the definition of being used as leverage. Why are you still spinning your wheels on this?

THAT'S COMPLETELY NORMAL NEGOTIATIONS WHY ARE YOU SO PRESSED

Whether it's normal or not, it doesn't matter it's still the truth u bird

[TorontoBarneys]

Some of these names since Giannis was dropped have been meh.

And that durant proposal is all kinds of messed up. You will get rid of all the depth for a rental.

Malik monk like why

The Durant thing is genuinely bizarre. If it's true why not have faith in your current core to improve next season? You got Ingram which is already a pretty big piece and you have #9 coming which has value even if we dropped down a lot of spots.

Why mess with what we've been building for what seems like a desperation move?

[Brinbe]

again, you're repeating what EVERYONE ALREADY KNOWS. how are you this dense? lmfao. again, why are you so upset at the game being played?

holy crap, these zoomers are fried. too much chatgpt for you.

do you think the suns are stringing us along just to take a crappier deal?

Aight you need to chill.

You've been at it being hostile as hell to posters on here for a while over what is ultimately minor disagreeable matters and making it very personal and very toxic for everyone. Calm down and quit being a prick.

again, next time you go aggregating what I post to other sites, at least get the information right.

[Brinbe]

Jesus Christ. The suns are doing what they want by spewing what Toronto and Minny is offering (even if its not real) WITH HOPES OF GETTING BETTER DEALS FROM OTHER TEAMS. This is the definition of being used as leverage. Why are you still spinning your wheels on this?

THAT'S COMPLETELY NORMAL NEGOTIATIONS WHY ARE YOU SO PRESSED

Whether it's normal or not, it doesn't matter it's still the truth u bird

it's only true if they have no intention of trading him here at all, which you seem to believe

again, that's what leverage actually means.

otherwise, what's the actual leverage here? the raptors lose nothing here at all

[bballsparkin]

If Sabonis is on this team I'll be out the door until he leaves. That guy is one of the worst and most useless players I've ever seen especially in the playoffs

He'd beast in the East. I just think he's a horrible fit and not worth the acquisition cost.

[ConSarnit]

I like Masai is doing and there is a lot of reporting that is being taken out of context. We are not giving, RJ, IQ, Jakob and 9 for KD. It is a combination of that. I still think RJ, Walter, Jakob and 9 for KD and 29 is what’s on the table. For those worried about KD being a FA, he will want to get paid on his next contract and go to a contender. So he either re-ups with Toronto for Max, or it will have to be a S and T. In any situation Toronto gets back a starter level guy like IQ or Jakob and a first even if things don’t work out next year. Super low risk in my mind.

Masai I think is going to continue to discuss deals with other teams to put pressure on the Suns to pull the trigger. The suns on the other end probably want to hold out to as close to the draft as possible hoping someone ponies up a bit more value.

However, I don’t see the other teams upping their offers and I think KD would prefer Toronto over Minny.

Question are what other deals Masai has up his sleeve.

Also wondering if the outcome of all this is Scottie ends up playing the point.

Deal one RJ, Ochai, Jakob and 9 for KD and 29

Second deal Quickley, Walter. 29th and a future first for Sabonis.

Scottie
Ingram
KD
Mogbo
Sabonis

If we end up with Sabonis Masai is officially washed. I’ve been willing to give our FO a chance to turn it around on the hope they’d learned some lessons over the past 3-4 years. If we trade for Sabonis that is a surefire sign they’ve lost their fastball. Sabonis is a prime example of a play-in or bust player and he cannot hold up in the playoffs.

[ForeverTFC]

I like Masai is doing and there is a lot of reporting that is being taken out of context. We are not giving, RJ, IQ, Jakob and 9 for KD. It is a combination of that. I still think RJ, Walter, Jakob and 9 for KD and 29 is what’s on the table. For those worried about KD being a FA, he will want to get paid on his next contract and go to a contender. So he either re-ups with Toronto for Max, or it will have to be a S and T. In any situation Toronto gets back a starter level guy like IQ or Jakob and a first even if things don’t work out next year. Super low risk in my mind.

Masai I think is going to continue to discuss deals with other teams to put pressure on the Suns to pull the trigger. The suns on the other end probably want to hold out to as close to the draft as possible hoping someone ponies up a bit more value.

However, I don’t see the other teams upping their offers and I think KD would prefer Toronto over Minny.

Question are what other deals Masai has up his sleeve.

Also wondering if the outcome of all this is Scottie ends up playing the point.

Deal one RJ, Ochai, Jakob and 9 for KD and 29

Second deal Quickley, Walter. 29th and a future first for Sabonis.

Scottie
Ingram
KD
Mogbo
Sabonis

That's a worse team than the one we have today. We saw Scottie at the 1, it doesn't work on either end of the court. There is only 1 3point shooter that can space the floor in that lineup and it's KD, the guy you want to have initiating the most. And Mogbo is the only guy there that is better playing off ball vs on ball. Teams will quadruple team Durant.

I'm on the Fire Masai train if this is what we come out of the summer with.