Infinity2152 wrote:Dan Z wrote:Infinity2152 wrote:
You mentioned the depth was helpful because of the injuries. Keeping the guy who missed the most games (Lively) vs any of the others who missed less games is not a good plan for depth. Mavericks have made it clear they prefer to play PJ Washington to Lively, they're on the same team already and Washington plays way more minutes. Yes, AD can play PF and yet Washington continues to get more minutes than Lively. Again, sure they may prefer to move another player like Washington or Gafford. They're likely not getting the same return and Lively's contributions are easily replaced by guys already on the roster.
If the Mavs move on, they move on. Doesn't mean we should demand less in a trade. I'm the Mavs, I take the deal. Agree to disagree. It's arguable that Lively is a better player than Coby in the first place, especially with his injury history vs Coby's. When they drafted Lively, they didn't know they'd be adding AD and Cooper Flagg on his rookie contract. Actually, even if AD plays PF, with their current roster, Gafford starts, not Lively.
We also don't know what the Mavs think of Kyrie Irving going forward. He might miss the entire season and after that he's a free agent. Do they re-sign him?
If they trade for Coby he'll also be up for a new contract in a year.
I think that's a plus for them. If they don't re-sign Irving, Coby's a much cheaper replacement. They're going to need talented guards, I think Coby qualifies. He's better than a lot of starting guard options. Much younger than Kyrie and Klay, if you want a relatively young talent to run with Flagg. Lively has one more cheap year than Coby, then you have to pay him too.
I think Coby's going to be a fair deal (unless it's us) and a good player for whoever gets him in 2026. We're the team most likely to overpay him. I just don't think a Giddey/White backcourt works against good teams in the playoffs.
Like I said, they could take it or not. It's a fair trade for both sides I think.
I looked at their draft capital and they don't have much to work with. They have their own pick in 2026, but can't trade it because they owe a pick in 2027. They don't have control of their own picks from 2027-2030, but have a 2029 Lakers pick that they can trade.
That's not much to work with. I think Coby would improve their team, but my guess is they won't be willing to offer enough for AK to make a deal.
