Kevin Durant

[FrenchMinnyFan]

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NOOOOOOOOO!!! I can’t believe we’d give up this much.

Seems way too much for me.KD is old …

[jpatrick]

If we’re offering this, we must have a Randle destination for a center lined up. But even with that, moving 17, Dilly, DDV, and maybe TSJ leaves us with zero assets moving forward, including to get a PG.

[MN7725]

Gambo sucks, but that’s probably roughly what the package would be, if the trade happens. I would be all-in on that with Julius Randle instead, but it’s hard to be thrilled about Rudy Gobert heading out.

The blunt truth is that there is a reason why Phoenix is desperately trying to get Kevin Durant to sign off on Minnesota, the trade is contingent on that happening.

It's still too much. MAYBE stomachable only if Randle can get us a c.. which unlikely.

maybe one of the Portland C's- Ayton, R Williams, if they want Clingan to be clear starter

[Loaf_of_bread]

KD is a 1 year go for it, which isn't a horrible idea.. just isn't though considering KD's track record.. also considering okc.

I don't see anything good coming out of obtaining kd. Rudy for a younger piece should be considered.

[theGreatRC]

That package is WAY too much for KD at 37 years old and potentially 1 year...cmon now..

Even if we got KD for that, we have holes that still need addressing;

-Who plays PG
-Who plays C
-bench got weaker

[Loaf_of_bread]

Gambo sucks, but that’s probably roughly what the package would be, if the trade happens. I would be all-in on that with Julius Randle instead, but it’s hard to be thrilled about Rudy Gobert heading out.

The blunt truth is that there is a reason why Phoenix is desperately trying to get Kevin Durant to sign off on Minnesota, the trade is contingent on that happening.

It's still too much. MAYBE stomachable only if Randle can get us a c.. which unlikely.

maybe one of the Portland C's- Ayton, R Williams, if they want Clingan to be clear starter

Good call. RWilliams perfect

[Domejandro]

It's still too much. MAYBE stomachable only if Randle can get us a c.. which unlikely.

maybe one of the Portland C's- Ayton, R Williams, if they want Clingan to be clear starter

Good call. RWilliams perfect

Heading into next season with the perpetually injured Robert Williams starting at Center seems like an absolute disaster. I would honestly rather gamble on the goofball line-up of Julius Randle at center, at that point, if I’m being honest.

I am definitely in the camp of “Minnesota needs a real answer to the Center problem, if this trade happens.” Maybe Brook Lopez or someone like him as a stop-gap, but I’m very uncomfortable about the roster balance if the team loses Rudy.

[BlacJacMac]

It's still too much. MAYBE stomachable only if Randle can get us a c.. which unlikely.

maybe one of the Portland C's- Ayton, R Williams, if they want Clingan to be clear starter

Good call. RWilliams perfect

I love Timelord, but he’s played 235 games in 7 years. A total of 61 over the past 3.

[MN7725]

maybe one of the Portland C's- Ayton, R Williams, if they want Clingan to be clear starter

Good call. RWilliams perfect

Heading into next season with the perpetually injured Robert Williams starting at Center seems like an absolute disaster. I would honestly rather gamble of the goofball line-up of Julius Randle at center, at that point, if I’m being honest.

I wonder if the Wolves are baking in that there are going to be some quality/starting level players that are going to lose out on the FA musical chairs and end up taking minimum offers, sort of like what happened with Tyus, Gary Trent last year

i've been wondering if Clint Capela will get more than a minimum offer?

[Domejandro]

Good call. RWilliams perfect

Heading into next season with the perpetually injured Robert Williams starting at Center seems like an absolute disaster. I would honestly rather gamble of the goofball line-up of Julius Randle at center, at that point, if I’m being honest.

I wonder if the Wolves are baking in that there are going to be some quality/starting level players that are going to lose out on the FA musical chairs and end up taking minimum offers, sort of like what happened with Tyus, Gary Trent last year

i've been wondering if Clint Capela will get more than a minimum offer?

Rumour has it that the Los Angeles Lakers might offer Clint Capela the tax-payers mid-level exception.

[Klomp]

Another way to think about trade prices is to look at what a trade will mean for the other team.

I think part of the reason people roasted the initial Gobert trade so hard is because Utah made it in conjunction with the Mitchell trade. People thought Utah was fast-tracking their way to a tank-aided rebuild. Well, this is the first draft of the three years where they have been picking higher than 9, and the rebuild has been largely a disaster. We're roughly halfway through the pick allocations and Utah has very little to show for the trade.

I think part of the fear around a Gobert trade now for most people is the worry that a team will make a monstrous jump to a title, similar to the leap we made after acquiring him. Well, I have very little concern about Phoenix building a title team around Booker and Gobert. They may field a team that could crawl out of the play-in tournament, but I don't really see them earning home-court advantage at any point.

[shrink]

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Right now, MIN is $16.6 over the second apron. To legally do a Durant trade at the deadline, we would need to send out at least $16.6 PLUS $51.2 or $67.8 mil.

Gobert ($43.8) + DiVincenzo ($11.4) + Shannon ($2.5) + #17 ($0) = $57.7 mil outgoing salary

Gobert ($43.8) + DiVincenzo ($11.4) + Dillingham ($6.3) + #17 ($0) = $61.5 mil outgoing salary

Now, maybe we are sending something else out to a third team, simultaneously, but these deals are illegal.

[younggunsmn]

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Right now, MIN is $16.6 over the second apron. To legally do a Durant trade at the deadline, we would need to send out at least $16.6 PLUS $51.2 or $67.8 mil.

Gobert ($43.8) + DiVincenzo ($11.4) + Shannon ($2.5) + #17 ($0) = $57.7 mil outgoing salary

Gobert ($43.8) + DiVincenzo ($11.4) + Dillingham ($6.3) + #17 ($0) = $61.5 mil outgoing salary

Now, maybe we are sending something else out to a third team, simultaneously, but these deals are illegal.

Can we please FIRE TIM CONNELLY ALREADY.
If that offer is true OMFG we have got a little kid who likes shiny objects running our team.
17 PLUS TJ and or Rob PLUS DDV and Gobert?
Julius Randle opts out and Naz and NAW leave and we have what 4 rotation worthy players under contract and 2 of them are 37+ years old?

Even the Spurs, who have a ton of draft assets, are only offering the 14th pick plus trash contracts.
Maybe that's why they have a ton of draft assets and we have none.

Thank the good lord Kevin Durant doesn't want to be here.
He probably saw that offer and said, "hell no I am not joining a team with that big of a numbskull running the franchise"..

Oh and shrink you need to be using 2025-26 salaries in your trades because before the moratorium it is going to be logistically nearly impossible to pull off a trade of that magnitude between 2 2nd apron teams with neither having the ability to aggregate.

[shrink]

Oh and shrink you need to be using 2025-26 salaries in your trades because before the moratorium it is going to be logistically nearly impossible to pull off a trade of that magnitude between 2 2nd apron teams with neither having the ability to aggregate.

Next year makes more sense to me too, but PHX has been adamant that they want Durant traded before the draft, so they can use the picks themselves. There is also a lot of smoke out there that the deal will happen in the next 48 hours. Plus, you’ll note that the pieces MIN put into this trade are all trade eligible right now, while the more logical choice for the trade, Julius Randle (and Naz, and NAW) aren’t in this offer. In fact, if you consider Ant and Jaden untouchable, this offer includes almost all of our currently tradable salary. Maybe that’s random, but I would like to hear of PHX is still pushing for an immediate offer.

[DirtyDez]

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Right now, MIN is $16.6 over the second apron. To legally do a Durant trade at the deadline, we would need to send out at least $16.6 PLUS $51.2 or $67.8 mil.

Gobert ($43.8) + DiVincenzo ($11.4) + Shannon ($2.5) + #17 ($0) = $57.7 mil outgoing salary

Gobert ($43.8) + DiVincenzo ($11.4) + Dillingham ($6.3) + #17 ($0) = $61.5 mil outgoing salary

Now, maybe we are sending something else out to a third team, simultaneously, but these deals are illegal.

It’s Gambo he’s just speculating.

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[Slim Tubby]

That package is WAY too much for KD at 37 years old and potentially 1 year...cmon now..

Even if we got KD for that, we have holes that still need addressing;

-Who plays PG
-Who plays C
-bench got weaker

Common sense post...thank you. We're a worse team after that trade with even less assets for future moves.

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[Domejandro]

To be clear, Terrence Shannon Jr. and Rob Dillingham are (almost certainly) not both in the offer, that's Gambo being a goofball. He's the type of reporter where he clearly has sources, but he is comfortable parroting anything for clicks.

[winforlose]

The moment KD went out and said he doesn’t want to be in Minnesota that should have ended the discussion. An expiring player who doesn’t want to stay is a RENTAL. Renting 1 year of KD at the cost of key players whose contracts have real value is just plain STUPID. I hated TC before the KD mess started, and I hate him even more now. Any trade for KD is IMO tantamount to Nico Harrison level of incompetence, and that is very hard to reach.

[Howard Cosell]

Timberwolves go to 2 western conference finals back to back seasons first time in history and we got multiple Twolves hating on TC?

Good grief.

[funkatron101]

I trust Connelly.

But yeah, a 1 year rental of a 37 year old KD doesn't push us to the finals.