Hawks 2025 Offseason Thread

[Jamaaliver]

Gafford could be interesting, but I prefer the Chinese guy.

I have to mention: Hansen Yang has a solid chance to be an above average center in this league.
But Foreign born Centers notoriously take years to fully acclimate to the NBA.
And Yang is not fluent in English.
The dude is years away from being as productive as Dan Gafford is today.

For example:

• Zubac was drafted ahead of the 2017 season. He didn't become a FT starter until the 2022 season.
• Isaiah Hartenstein was drafted ahead of the 2018 season. He didn't become a FT starter until the 2025 season.
• Goga Bitadze was drafted ahead of the 2020 season. He's yet to become a full time starter.

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I prefer us to keep Mouhamed Gueye.

22 years old, raw talent, and he had 18 rebounds in a game this season.

Gafford has a career high of 17 rebounds in one game and will be due an extention after next season.

I do like Gafford and the energy he brings.

If you trade for Gafford you do so with the expectation that you will be offering him a large contract. We are talking probably $20-$30 million per year at least.

And that's not appealing at all.

Like jayu mentioned, some second round picks is the only value I give.

[Rebound Mound]

Gafford could be interesting, but I prefer the Chinese guy.

I have to mention: Hansen Yang has a solid chance to be an above average center in this league.
But Foreign born Centers notoriously take years to fully acclimate to the NBA.
And Yang is not fluent in English.
The dude is years away from being as productive as Dan Gafford is today.

For example:

• Zubac was drafted ahead of the 2017 season. He didn't become a FT starter until the 2022 season.
• Isaiah Hartenstein was drafted ahead of the 2018 season. He didn't become a FT starter until the 2025 season.
• Goga Bitadze was drafted ahead of the 2020 season. He's yet to become a full time starter.

You are right.
All in all, one path does not deny the other and we could select Yang and trade for Gafford.
It is not just centres, players in general.

I do not know whether Gafford would be the player I would sign. If Porzingis is available, we can try to get him. I understand it is a big risk, but it would be increadible to have a 7-3 guy who can play from the bench or together with OO. Gafford is really limited and cannot shoot, pass or run, post up or anything. He relies on off rebounds and passes.
I do not know. I like many players. I would like to keep Gueye and Nance as a third PF/C behind both pairs of players at either position, because the season is long and injuries come and go. JJ should play more SF this year, specially if we can get Cam Johnson.

Can we afford this or Levert would have to go?
Trae
Daniels
Risacher
JJ
OO
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Levert
Krejci
Mann
Johnson
Porzingis
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Gueye
Nance

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Gafford could be interesting, but I prefer the Chinese guy.

I have to mention: Hansen Yang has a solid chance to be an above average center in this league.
But Foreign born Centers notoriously take years to fully acclimate to the NBA.
And Yang is not fluent in English.
The dude is years away from being as productive as Dan Gafford is today.

For example:

• Zubac was drafted ahead of the 2017 season. He didn't become a FT starter until the 2022 season.
• Isaiah Hartenstein was drafted ahead of the 2018 season. He didn't become a FT starter until the 2025 season.
• Goga Bitadze was drafted ahead of the 2020 season. He's yet to become a full time starter.

Every big prospect takes years to come around outside the unicorns. The idea is for Gafford to backup/compete with OO and for Yang/Raynaud to be the 3rd developmental big. By the time if/when they do finally get ready for rotation minutes, one of OO/Gafford coud become expendable.

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[Rebound Mound]

I believe Cam Johnson is almost what we were lookig for.
We were looking for some player/s to add three òint shooting, who could deepen out rotation... and some physical presence.
Cam is atainable, is a great scorer, can shoot from three... but he lacks athleticism.
Is he the perfect fit for Risacher and Johnson?
Can JJ play some three and Cam Johnson can play some three also?
Even if we get a solod centre and a rookie centre, the inside positions could look like a little bit too soft.

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Would the Nets be willing to trade Claxton for picks or players or a combination of both?

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I believe Cam Johnson is almost what we were lookig for.
We were looking for some player/s to add three òint shooting, who could deepen out rotation... and some physical presence.
Cam is atainable, is a great scorer, can shoot from three... but he lacks athleticism.
Is he the perfect fit for Risacher and Johnson?
Can JJ play some three and Cam Johnson can play some three also?
Even if we get a solod centre and a rookie centre, the inside positions could look like a little bit too soft.

JJ-Johnson-Gueye
OO-XXX-Maluach/Yang

Would the Nets be willing to trade Claxton for picks or players or a combination of both?

The rotations can be adjusted to work Cam into the lineup. Is he going to be content coming off the bench after starting? That is what our front office will need to know.

How much are we willing to give up to acquire him?

I see no need for Nicolas Claxton. OO is just fine and I see no reason to add Claxton's salary to our payroll.

25/26 $25,352,272
26/27 $23,147,727
27/28 $20,943,184

As long as we have OO at his affordable contract I think we need to focus on adding a real big man that is mobile and has range.

[Rebound Mound]

I believe Cam Johnson is almost what we were lookig for.
We were looking for some player/s to add three òint shooting, who could deepen out rotation... and some physical presence.
Cam is atainable, is a great scorer, can shoot from three... but he lacks athleticism.
Is he the perfect fit for Risacher and Johnson?
Can JJ play some three and Cam Johnson can play some three also?
Even if we get a solod centre and a rookie centre, the inside positions could look like a little bit too soft.

JJ-Johnson-Gueye
OO-XXX-Maluach/Yang

Would the Nets be willing to trade Claxton for picks or players or a combination of both?

The rotations can be adjusted to work Cam into the lineup. Is he going to be content coming off the bench after starting? That is what our front office will need to know.

How much are we willing to give up to acquire him?

I see no need for Nicolas Claxton. OO is just fine and I see no reason to add Claxton's salary to our payroll.

25/26 $25,352,272
26/27 $23,147,727
27/28 $20,943,184

As long as we have OO at his affordable contract I think we need to focus on adding a real big man that is mobile and has range.

While I believe you are right about the first point, although I believe there would not be a problem with Risacher coming off the bench at this time in his career, I think Claxton has a decreasing salary, signed at 20/25 is not bad, he is really mobile and can switch on anybody, as he has the legs and lateral quickness to even defend point guards full court. Obviously he is limited in terms of scoring and can just dunk and score from short distances, but he would do wonders when paired with Trae. Also he has the age to become a better player right now and he can develop for three years as we also model a young centre that we can draft.

Can we afford to keep Levert and get Claxton and Johnson until Risacher becomes a veteran and we need to pay him as so?

Trae
Daniels
Johnson
Johnson
OO
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Krejci
LeVert
Mann
Risacher
Claxton
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Gueye
Nance

I do not know, it seems like an overbooking at SF/PF and then other positions are not well covered.
It could work better with Cam coming off the bench...

[Jamaaliver]

The rotations can be adjusted to work Cam into the lineup. Is he going to be content coming off the bench after starting? That is what our front office will need to know.

How much are we willing to give up to acquire him?

I see no need for Nicolas Claxton. OO is just fine and I see no reason to add Claxton's salary to our payroll.

While I believe you are right about the first point, although I believe there would not be a problem with Risacher coming off the bench at this time in his career, I think Claxton has a decreasing salary, signed at 20/25 is not bad, he is really mobile and can switch on anybody, as he has the legs and lateral quickness to even defend point guards full court.

If I might jump in here...I think you're both right.

1. Adding Cam Johnson into our rotation is a clear win for a team operating under a 'win-now' mandate.

2. Adding Claxton on a descending contract would be a solid insurance policy for injury to any of Jalen or OO.




Only concern with adding Cam Johnson: He's only under contract for 2 seasons, meaning next summer we'd have to make some long term decisions regarding his future.

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I believe Cam Johnson is almost what we were lookig for.
We were looking for some player/s to add three òint shooting, who could deepen out rotation... and some physical presence.
Cam is atainable, is a great scorer, can shoot from three... but he lacks athleticism.
Is he the perfect fit for Risacher and Johnson?
Can JJ play some three and Cam Johnson can play some three also?
Even if we get a solod centre and a rookie centre, the inside positions could look like a little bit too soft.

JJ-Johnson-Gueye
OO-XXX-Maluach/Yang

Would the Nets be willing to trade Claxton for picks or players or a combination of both?

The rotations can be adjusted to work Cam into the lineup. Is he going to be content coming off the bench after starting? That is what our front office will need to know.

How much are we willing to give up to acquire him?

I see no need for Nicolas Claxton. OO is just fine and I see no reason to add Claxton's salary to our payroll.

25/26 $25,352,272
26/27 $23,147,727
27/28 $20,943,184

As long as we have OO at his affordable contract I think we need to focus on adding a real big man that is mobile and has range.

While I believe you are right about the first point, although I believe there would not be a problem with Risacher coming off the bench at this time in his career, I think Claxton has a decreasing salary, signed at 20/25 is not bad, he is really mobile and can switch on anybody, as he has the legs and lateral quickness to even defend point guards full court. Obviously he is limited in terms of scoring and can just dunk and score from short distances, but he would do wonders when paired with Trae. Also he has the age to become a better player right now and he can develop for three years as we also model a young centre that we can draft.

Can we afford to keep Levert and get Claxton and Johnson until Risacher becomes a veteran and we need to pay him as so?

Trae
Daniels
Johnson
Johnson
OO
--------------------
Krejci
LeVert
Mann
Risacher
Claxton
-----------------
Gueye
Nance

I do not know, it seems like an overbooking at SF/PF and then other positions are not well covered.
It could work better with Cam coming off the bench...

Zaccharie Risacher come off the bench? He played in 75 games this season and scored a high of 38 points in a game.

Cam Johnson has played in 340 games in his career and his high is 38 points.

Both have a career high of 12 boards.

I think having Zacch come off the bench is foolish and is a setback. If anything he needs 15 shot attempts per game.

Both Nic Claxton and Cam Johnson are both use to starting. Our front office must take that into account and the mindset of these young me. We need a happy locker room. I expect us to use a young big man and old veteran at the 5 due to cost.

I doubt Levert is a Hawk next season.

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Please, can we stop with this Claxton trade... we need a C who can spread the floor a bit, shooting 3s if possible, but we certainly don't need a C that can't shoot 3s and is .500 at FT
Among the guys in the rotation, he also has the last Net rating difference of his team these last two years... enough to not try anything with him

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[Rebound Mound]

Please, can we stop with this Claxton trade... we need a C who can spread the floor a bit, shooting 3s if possible, but we certainly don't need a C that can't shoot 3s and is .500 at FT
Among the guys in the rotation, he also has the last Net rating difference of his team these last two years... enough to not try anything with him

In a roster you need different types of players.
OO can spread the floor. Claxton can block shots and defend any position, although he is a little light for being a centre. I cannot think of any other available C who could come here at an available price.
If we do renew LeVert and trade for Cam, getting Claxton would be like topping the cake. I doubt we can get such a good player to round up the roster and probably the options in that scenerio would be signing Nance or keeping Gueye.

[Rebound Mound]

The rotations can be adjusted to work Cam into the lineup. Is he going to be content coming off the bench after starting? That is what our front office will need to know.

How much are we willing to give up to acquire him?

I see no need for Nicolas Claxton. OO is just fine and I see no reason to add Claxton's salary to our payroll.

25/26 $25,352,272
26/27 $23,147,727
27/28 $20,943,184

As long as we have OO at his affordable contract I think we need to focus on adding a real big man that is mobile and has range.

While I believe you are right about the first point, although I believe there would not be a problem with Risacher coming off the bench at this time in his career, I think Claxton has a decreasing salary, signed at 20/25 is not bad, he is really mobile and can switch on anybody, as he has the legs and lateral quickness to even defend point guards full court. Obviously he is limited in terms of scoring and can just dunk and score from short distances, but he would do wonders when paired with Trae. Also he has the age to become a better player right now and he can develop for three years as we also model a young centre that we can draft.

Can we afford to keep Levert and get Claxton and Johnson until Risacher becomes a veteran and we need to pay him as so?

Trae
Daniels
Johnson
Johnson
OO
--------------------
Krejci
LeVert
Mann
Risacher
Claxton
-----------------
Gueye
Nance

I do not know, it seems like an overbooking at SF/PF and then other positions are not well covered.
It could work better with Cam coming off the bench...

Zaccharie Risacher come off the bench? He played in 75 games this season and scored a high of 38 points in a game.

Cam Johnson has played in 340 games in his career and his high is 38 points.

Both have a career high of 12 boards.

I think having Zacch come off the bench is foolish and is a setback. If anything he needs 15 shot attempts per game.

Both Nic Claxton and Cam Johnson are both use to starting. Our front office must take that into account and the mindset of these young me. We need a happy locker room. I expect us to use a young big man and old veteran at the 5 due to cost.

I doubt Levert is a Hawk next season.

I inderstand your reasons and I also thought of that.
Just trying to envision ways to acommodate Johnson.

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