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Post#941 » by RookieStar » Wed Jun 18, 2025 1:26 am

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RookieStar wrote:Gotta ask.. i was surfing through Heat boards cuz i was curious about their chance for KD... and all of a sudden i reaf Herro > Bane.

Would we have given up that much for Herro?


No.

It’s clear we were not willing to sacrifice defensive efficiency.

Also, Bane is (statistically) a better 3-pt shooter.


Herro is simply flashier and player for a bigger market team. Herro is a very nice player in a similar tier, but all things considered, for Orlando, Bane >>> Herro. For a different team in a different situation that might flip.


Yeah i would think

6'6 defensive bruiser >> 6'4 twig-like
Also more importantly locked in for 4 years over the uncertainty of extension or threat of leaving.
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Post#942 » by Knightro » Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:08 am

Zach Lowe and Kirk Goldsberry agreed that Bane would probably have two all-star appearances on his resume right now if he had simply been in the Eastern Conference instead of the Western Conference.
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Post#944 » by OrlandoDream » Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:16 am

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OrlandoDream wrote:We can argue the Bane and Suggs backcourt fit with Paolo and Franz all day. One big aspect we are severely forgetting is....Mosley. I have little to no trust that he and his staff is going to be capable of getting the most out of these four. The bane trade puts us on the next phase of the rebuild. We are now in win-now mode and hopefully contention in 2-3 years. We have upgraded players; we now need to upgrade the coaching staff. And no, a better offensive coordinator asst coach isn't the answer. Too many good coaches on the market to continue sticking to Mosley and his pretender coaching staff.


Really need to overhaul the entire staff that has overachived with a roster that had injuries to their top four scorers no shooting or guards or shooting :lol: :crazy:

That has also got us better basically every year until this last one with massive injuries



Yeah crazy...have you watched the games? The defense is fantastic. The camaraderie is fantastic. The offensive skill of the primary guys is fantastic.

But the offense is straight up ugly dogs**t in mud...More ball movement at a YMCA pickup...easy to blame the supporting cast, that's not going to fly anymore. There is a hard ceiling on a team with 2 "superstars" and 2 super-elite role players that has a bottom 10 offense.

If Mosley underachieves next year, he is gone. You got golden opportunity here to make a run at the east. You cant fumble this.
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Post#945 » by BadMofoPimp » Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:32 am

I was always on the keep Weltman train. He proved em all wrong!!!
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Post#946 » by RichCollab » Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:48 am

BadMofoPimp wrote:I was always on the keep Weltman train. He proved em all wrong!!!


We have a core of Paolo, Franz, Bane, and Suggs.

It’s really going to be on the players and coaches now.

We will need to make further changes but they shouldn’t be big lifts.

Salary cap is going to be humongous issue but we got our top 4 locked in.
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Post#947 » by tiderulz » Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:56 am

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RookieStar wrote:Gotta ask.. i was surfing through Heat boards cuz i was curious about their chance for KD... and all of a sudden i reaf Herro > Bane.

Would we have given up that much for Herro?


No.

It’s clear we were not willing to sacrifice defensive efficiency.

Also, Bane is (statistically) a better 3-pt shooter.


Herro is simply flashier and player for a bigger market team. Herro is a very nice player in a similar tier, but all things considered, for Orlando, Bane >>> Herro. For a different team in a different situation that might flip.


Yeah i would think

6'6 defensive bruiser >> 6'4 twig-like
Also more importantly locked in for 4 years over the uncertainty of extension or threat of leaving.

Bane better off the bounce and around the basket too
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Post#948 » by bigdogdylan5 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:14 am

This grizzlies team is damn weird. Maybe every team like not of the caliber of a finals team feels weird when you really predominantly watch your team all year. Scottie pippen jr felt way over utilized he is not dissimilar from Cole that he really tries to hunt his own shot he is just faster about it. Bane has stood out for the obvious stuff but he also stands out as it feels like he is only willing passer on the team. When it hits JJJ hands it’s going up. Feels similar but a little less obvious with Pippen and Morant. Morant does pass it but like only when he is like walled off.

Of course these are not sweeping generalizations. I am really trying to get a feel that was Bane utilized to his full potential and how much playmaking chops he has.
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Post#949 » by RookieStar » Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:21 am

bigdogdylan5 wrote:This grizzlies team is damn weird. Maybe every team like not of the caliber of a finals team feels weird when you really predominantly watch your team all year. Scottie pippen jr felt way over utilized he is not dissimilar from Cole that he really tries to hunt his own shot he is just faster about it. Bane has stood out for the obvious stuff but he also stands out as it feels like he is only willing passer on the team. When it hits JJJ hands it’s going up. Feels similar but a little less obvious with Pippen and Morant. Morant does pass it but like only when he is like walled off.

Of course these are not sweeping generalizations. I am really trying to get a feel that was Bane utilized to his full potential and how much playmaking chops he has.


I think he was...i mean.. lets not forget before the coming of Ja-Wick the MEM team was a #1 seed if i remember correctly. It was only during the suspension that they werent a top seed anymore.
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Post#950 » by bigdogdylan5 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:34 am

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bigdogdylan5 wrote:This grizzlies team is damn weird. Maybe every team like not of the caliber of a finals team feels weird when you really predominantly watch your team all year. Scottie pippen jr felt way over utilized he is not dissimilar from Cole that he really tries to hunt his own shot he is just faster about it. Bane has stood out for the obvious stuff but he also stands out as it feels like he is only willing passer on the team. When it hits JJJ hands it’s going up. Feels similar but a little less obvious with Pippen and Morant. Morant does pass it but like only when he is like walled off.

Of course these are not sweeping generalizations. I am really trying to get a feel that was Bane utilized to his full potential and how much playmaking chops he has.


I think he was...i mean.. lets not forget before the coming of Ja-Wick the MEM team was a #1 seed if i remember correctly. It was only during the suspension that they werent a top seed anymore.

Not sure I agree with that. Look this is not shot at Ja if we didn’t have Paolo I would probably want Ja instead of Bane but I am pretty sure with our team I would much rather have Bane. I can see how people can talk themselves into Bane not being utilized fully. Some of the actions we run and dribble hand offs with weird inverted PnR combinations really are interesting with him. Memphis doesn’t really do much of that. It’s either Ja penetrates or they dump it to JJJ in the post. On the really bad season bane only played 45 games too. He had some nagging injuries and by the end of the season Griz extended some of those injuries due to trying to tank.
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Post#951 » by RookieStar » Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:10 am

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bigdogdylan5 wrote:This grizzlies team is damn weird. Maybe every team like not of the caliber of a finals team feels weird when you really predominantly watch your team all year. Scottie pippen jr felt way over utilized he is not dissimilar from Cole that he really tries to hunt his own shot he is just faster about it. Bane has stood out for the obvious stuff but he also stands out as it feels like he is only willing passer on the team. When it hits JJJ hands it’s going up. Feels similar but a little less obvious with Pippen and Morant. Morant does pass it but like only when he is like walled off.

Of course these are not sweeping generalizations. I am really trying to get a feel that was Bane utilized to his full potential and how much playmaking chops he has.


I think he was...i mean.. lets not forget before the coming of Ja-Wick the MEM team was a #1 seed if i remember correctly. It was only during the suspension that they werent a top seed anymore.

Not sure I agree with that. Look this is not shot at Ja if we didn’t have Paolo I would probably want Ja instead of Bane but I am pretty sure with our team I would much rather have Bane. I can see how people can talk themselves into Bane not being utilized fully. Some of the actions we run and dribble hand offs with weird inverted PnR combinations really are interesting with him. Memphis doesn’t really do much of that. It’s either Ja penetrates or they dump it to JJJ in the post. On the really bad season bane only played 45 games too. He had some nagging injuries and by the end of the season Griz extended some of those injuries due to trying to tank.


I read somewhere that Ja usually plays only 60games of the RS due to one reason or another. That means Bane had the creative license to be the #1 option... he is known for hos catch and shoot though..
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Post#952 » by pepe1991 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 6:34 am

There are lot of mental gymnastics involved into justification of a trade or trying to find angle how to elevate Bane , by trashing Grizzlies. One would think Bane is some prime Steph Curry out there playing with bums.

That's not a case really. You can "trash" Memphis as a team or their players just to uplift Bane, but it's such a ugly revision of history. He is integral part of their raise, growth but ultimate fiasco, that includes his production, his salary and his limitations ( just like any core player in salary restricted league , if some player makes 25% of total money)


Grizzlies were EXCELLENT team in 2021-22. 56-26 record isn't something that you achieve with scrubs.
Morant was 22, won MIP, was 7th in MVP voting, all star, all nba selection.
Jackson finished 5th in DPOY voting, age 22. All nba defensive first team.

Bane, 23 at times, had 18,2 ppg, 56,5% eFG season.
Their bench and supporting cast were excellent: Brooks, Clarke, Melton, Kyle Anderson, Jones, Aldama, Merril, Adams... etc

What happened? Nothing. They passed first round of playoffs vs Minny ( that was pre- Gobert Wolves), Bane plays like mad man in first round, leading Grizzlies scorer.
But second round is vs Warriors. Grizzlies have home court advantage. But Warriors steal game 1 and control rest of a series. Series was all over a place, Morant didn't play in last game, Green was ejected in game 1, officiating was garbage. Morant had breakout in playoffs, finishing series with 38 ppg. :crazy: But at the end of a day, when it was time to put series away, Klay and Curry > rest of the world's history at Guard slots.



Next year they win 51 games. But:
Morant 61 games played
Bane 58 games played
Jackson 63 games played

Their offensive production fell off cliff (15# offense) compared to previous year ( 5# offense).
First round vs Lakers at home, Lakers went through playin to get to playoffs.

And once again, it is very hard to win playoffs when you face top 5 players. Davis & Lebron > anything Memphis has.
Bane in this version of Grizzlies is way more of combo guard. But that version isn't really best version of him. Reaves pretty much wins their mini "duel", with lower usage, higher efficiency and more assists ( less Tos) ( Reaves 30 assists, 11 TOs, Bane 19 assists, 17 TOs ). Bane scores more raw PPGs (23,5 vs 16,7) but also takes 40 shots more ( 26% usage vs 19% usage).



Next year, gun suspension - Morant 9 games played total
Bane 42 games total
Jackson 66 games

27-55 record. Really nothing to say there. Bane as "point guard" had better stats , team sucked, offense was the worst in nba.


And that brings us to last year.
Grizzlies had some strange offense that excluded pick&roll, at least traditional high screen action. I won't lie. I enjoyed watching regular season teams being confused in fake screens, chasing clouds, some Wizards / Hornets / Jazz - F level players being so easily fooled by decoy screens that are moved without contact into slip. Even good team like Celtics folded and got lost ( especially when their big bums were on floor Queta & Kornet).
Problem with such offense was:
- all 5 men had to be capable of handling ball and making passes
- on ball player has to be able to shake off defender
- pretty much all people need to be able to attack rim

And yea... once Morant got down, it got ugly. You can argue that thing would never work in playoffs as teams focus on poor ball handlers and pressure them ( happened anyway vs OKC ).

But once again:
Morant 50 games
Jackson 74 games
Bane 69 games

And here we are. Grizzlies were " best young core", after Pelicans "best young core ever" also went nowhere. Like everybody can figure, that title means jack s****. Best young core is one that is turned into title. If that means selling them all, so be it. ( Also, OKC is best "young core" of a decade, winning title will be ultimate proof , as Presti now has crown and pile of assets to sit on for next 5 years ).

Bane, Morant and Jackson are great young players. Morant has superstar- flashes, Jackson is elite 2 way big ( all nba second def. team), and Bane is above average guard. But all 3 were hurt almost every year, and all 3 never showed any consistency in production in playoffs.
Morant struggles to create easy shots in playoffs due jump shot being meh.
Bane can't create and shoot , always seems to be limited to 1 of 2.
Jackson's offense is pile of garbage in playoffs + his rebounding is painful. I already complained about Jackson and his inability to turn shoulder and play like big, to a point where he is too scared to post up Caruso for 3 possessions in a row.


In reality, more you watch teams, especially in playoffs, more clear and obvious their problems are. We had 4 (actually 5) series of Memphis to watch to figure it out.
This whole "terrible Grizzlies team", "terrible organization " , "poorly used", " didn't get help " is just echo chamber noice from people that don't really watch much basketball pass own team. And that's fine. But if somebody tells you that there is team with 56 wins with 22 years old superstar, built from nothing but own picks would you consider that team "poorly ran" ? Ofc not. Grizzlies aren't poorly ran organization. They simply made rebuild of what they had. And what they had wasn't good enough. That happens to 99,999% of teams that do rebuild.
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Post#953 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 8:16 am

I am still upset that we gave away that many unprotected picks. I feel like that will come back to bite us. One bad season due to injuries and we’re helping Memphis (or whoever they trade those picks to) build a dynasty.
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Post#954 » by Bensational » Wed Jun 18, 2025 8:50 am

pepe1991 wrote:Bane, Morant and Jackson are great young players. Morant has superstar- flashes, Jackson is elite 2 way big ( all nba second def. team), and Bane is above average guard. But all 3 were hurt almost every year, and all 3 never showed any consistency in production in playoffs.
Morant struggles to create easy shots in playoffs due jump shot being meh.
Bane can't create and shoot , always seems to be limited to 1 of 2.
Jackson's offense is pile of garbage in playoffs + his rebounding is painful. I already complained about Jackson and his inability to turn shoulder and play like big, to a point where he is too scared to post up Caruso for 3 possessions in a row.


In reality, more you watch teams, especially in playoffs, more clear and obvious their problems are. We had 4 (actually 5) series of Memphis to watch to figure it out.
This whole "terrible Grizzlies team", "terrible organization " , "poorly used", " didn't get help " is just echo chamber noice from people that don't really watch much basketball pass own team. And that's fine. But if somebody tells you that there is team with 56 wins with 22 years old superstar, built from nothing but own picks would you consider that team "poorly ran" ? Ofc not. Grizzlies aren't poorly ran organization. They simply made rebuild of what they had. And what they had wasn't good enough. That happens to 99,999% of teams that do rebuild.


I had to chuckle because it feels like you’re making points for both sides here. You agreed that they were one of the best young cores just a few seasons ago, and yet here we are and they may be on the precipice of blowing that up having failed to make the needed improvements to get them over the hump. That’s fine. Both can be true, can’t they? They had a great thing and they ruined it with, maybe, some poor short term management.

Although, like you said it’s hard to say Memphis are poorly run because they seem to be one of the better teams at extracting value from little. They draft well (in general) no matter the position like Indiana and Miami do.

And their experiment of no PnR was looking genius, until it wasn’t. They’ve got good ideas and they seem to bring in the right minds to build good ‘teams’, like you said.
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Post#955 » by Bensational » Wed Jun 18, 2025 8:57 am

ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:I am still upset that we gave away that many unprotected picks. I feel like that will come back to bite us. One bad season due to injuries and we’re helping Memphis (or whoever they trade those picks to) build a dynasty.


Without any other moves to the core of Paolo/Franz/Suggs/Bane we’ve got 4 years to have one great season and win a championship. That’s the frame I’m taking on it.

But yeah, ideally you get a #1 protection on them. Maybe they could’ve created a trigger clause where in that event they get additional future draft pick/s?
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Post#956 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 9:16 am

Bensational wrote:
ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:I am still upset that we gave away that many unprotected picks. I feel like that will come back to bite us. One bad season due to injuries and we’re helping Memphis (or whoever they trade those picks to) build a dynasty.


Without any other moves to the core of Paolo/Franz/Suggs/Bane we’ve got 4 years to have one great season and win a championship. That’s the frame I’m taking on it.

But yeah, ideally you get a #1 protection on them. Maybe they could’ve created a trigger clause where in that event they get additional future draft pick/s?

There are so many examples of how badly this can go with these unprotected picks and Weltman double down. And we’re not even talking about the cap space implications. When Michelle or Dame became available, we thought the money was too much and they didn’t fit the timeline, and Bane is making so much as a 3rd option. We are not only on the clock but if this go south, we would most definitely have to trade Suggs, Franz, or Paolo. I don’t like the risk. If Weltman would have made trades along the way, this wouldn’t be necessary.

I don’t mind Bane on this team for KCP and Cole, but his salary is too high for what he will provide, the 4 unprotected picks were unnecessary, and his availability is not the best. Weltman needs to make trades going forward so his back is not against the wall like this. The Grizzlies GM saw him coming.
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Post#957 » by pepe1991 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 9:18 am

Bensational wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:Bane, Morant and Jackson are great young players. Morant has superstar- flashes, Jackson is elite 2 way big ( all nba second def. team), and Bane is above average guard. But all 3 were hurt almost every year, and all 3 never showed any consistency in production in playoffs.
Morant struggles to create easy shots in playoffs due jump shot being meh.
Bane can't create and shoot , always seems to be limited to 1 of 2.
Jackson's offense is pile of garbage in playoffs + his rebounding is painful. I already complained about Jackson and his inability to turn shoulder and play like big, to a point where he is too scared to post up Caruso for 3 possessions in a row.


In reality, more you watch teams, especially in playoffs, more clear and obvious their problems are. We had 4 (actually 5) series of Memphis to watch to figure it out.
This whole "terrible Grizzlies team", "terrible organization " , "poorly used", " didn't get help " is just echo chamber noice from people that don't really watch much basketball pass own team. And that's fine. But if somebody tells you that there is team with 56 wins with 22 years old superstar, built from nothing but own picks would you consider that team "poorly ran" ? Ofc not. Grizzlies aren't poorly ran organization. They simply made rebuild of what they had. And what they had wasn't good enough. That happens to 99,999% of teams that do rebuild.


I had to chuckle because it feels like you’re making points for both sides here. You agreed that they were one of the best young cores just a few seasons ago, and yet here we are and they may be on the precipice of blowing that up having failed to make the needed improvements to get them over the hump. That’s fine. Both can be true, can’t they? They had a great thing and they ruined it with, maybe, some poor short term management.

Although, like you said it’s hard to say Memphis are poorly run because they seem to be one of the better teams at extracting value from little. They draft well (in general) no matter the position like Indiana and Miami do.

And their experiment of no PnR was looking genius, until it wasn’t. They’ve got good ideas and they seem to bring in the right minds to build good ‘teams’, like you said.


I didn't really have "sides" in post. Just wrote down my take on what happened.

In 2022 they were hottest young team in nba by far. Won 56 games, passed first round, gave solid fight to Warriors (eventual champions).
Next year, they were unlucky to face Lakers in first round with AD & Lebron. Lakers went to WCF.
One year of injuries, gun violations and all the crazy stuff (but landed top 10 pick, i still don't view Edey as some great option in modern basketball, not due him being oversized but him being so soft despite being so oversized ).

And this year they got destroyed by team that is probably becoming champion within 96 hours.


Given i find Bane overpaid (both in salary books and what Magic gave up for him ), if i want to argue for "my side" i would say that Grizzlies maxed out 2 out of 3 players that aren't max players, at least not any more, under new CBA. And because Jackson got minimum required stipulation for mega max they had prepare salary cap for new exst. Or trade him.
Tbh, i'm still not sure that by the end of draft or mid season deadline, Jackson won't get traded. He is great young player. Until playoffs start. His playoff shortcomings are brutal.

Even way before trade for Bane, i complained a lot about CBA and how it should keep young stars on smaller teams, but due aprons it will do the opposite. This is one of reasons i really don't like Bane's deal. No matter what Magic do in next 2 years, around 3rd year they will need to do reconstruction of roster (and they will have no control over own picks until 2031, at least ).
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Post#958 » by basketballRob » Wed Jun 18, 2025 9:42 am

I remember Randle signing a crazy contract, and when I looked this year, he was at $33m, not so crazy. Bane gets around 5% increases, and the cap is going to increase 10% per season, around $20m. I heard at the end of Suggs' contract that he'll be making 12% of the cap. Players will be getting near $100m per year soon.

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Post#959 » by basketballRob » Wed Jun 18, 2025 9:47 am

We didn't trade Bane for 5 picks. We traded him for the #16 and 3 picks. We get the 2027 pick. The 2029 is a pick swap, so if we have a better record, then Memphis gets nothing.

I think if the Suns trade Durant, they will get better.

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Post#960 » by Knightro » Wed Jun 18, 2025 10:05 am

ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:I am still upset that we gave away that many unprotected picks. I feel like that will come back to bite us. One bad season due to injuries and we’re helping Memphis (or whoever they trade those picks to) build a dynasty.


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