2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (Wow this is fun!)

[ddb]

Spurs don’t need Harper. Facts. It’s posturing. If they can add Jaylen Brown to Wemby, Fox, Castle and Sochan they will do it.
The big question is would Brad do it. It’s a risk. A step back to take steps forward in a couple years. And if Boston did the type of move they would also trade White, Jrue and KP meaning it’s a whole new roster. And they’d be in play for another top pick next summer. Sounds nuts, right? But it’s really not. In this scenario Tatum takes his time coming back and returns for 26-27 at 28 years old turning 29 in March of that season.
If executed well the team could be loaded for another window.

[Fierce1]

Celtics are playing it safe by keeping the Jays, White, and PP.

But you never know.

[Fierce1]

Spurs don’t need Harper. Facts. It’s posturing. If they can add Jaylen Brown to Wemby, Fox, Castle and Sochan they will do it.
The big question is would Brad do it. It’s a risk. A step back to take steps forward in a couple years. And if Boston did the type of move they would also trade White, Jrue and KP meaning it’s a whole new roster. And they’d be in play for another top pick next summer. Sounds nuts, right? But it’s really not. In this scenario Tatum takes his time coming back and returns for 26-27 at 28 years old turning 29 in March of that season.
If executed well the team could be loaded for another window.

Yeah, I think you're right, it's posturing.

They already have Fox and Castle.

If Fox gets an extension then that will make it even harder for Harper to get minutes.

And even if the Spurs pick Harper, at some point they will have to let one go, among the 3 PGs they have.

[The Corey's]

It's premature to say 2026 is a recovery year.

If the Cs are in the playoffs and Tatum is back, who knows what happens in 2026.

The same **** thing that happened this year. Delusions of grandeur are running rampant around here.

[RickyDizzle]

It's premature to say 2026 is a recovery year.

If the Cs are in the playoffs and Tatum is back, who knows what happens in 2026.

The same **** thing that happened this year. Delusions of grandeur are running rampant around here.

You're aware this team won the title last year? Healthy our existing roster is clearly better than Indiana, is it not?

[Smart2Nesmith43]

It's premature to say 2026 is a recovery year.

If the Cs are in the playoffs and Tatum is back, who knows what happens in 2026.

The same **** thing that happened this year. Delusions of grandeur are running rampant around here.

The 2022 Celtics were 10th in the East in January and were up 2-1 in the Finals six months later after trading for an obscure starter on a bad San Antonio team. The 2023 Nuggets won the title without facing a single team that won more than 45 games that season (and with one of their stars coming off an ACL injury). The 2024 Mavs made the Finals after literally being fined the previous season for tanking to get the #10 pick (and proceeding to use it to dump Bertans contract). The 2025 Pacers started the season 10-15 and are battling a 68 win team in the Finals. Weird stuff happens all the time.

[ThePigeon]

Spurs don’t need Harper. Facts. It’s posturing. If they can add Jaylen Brown to Wemby, Fox, Castle and Sochan they will do it.
The big question is would Brad do it. It’s a risk. A step back to take steps forward in a couple years. And if Boston did the type of move they would also trade White, Jrue and KP meaning it’s a whole new roster. And they’d be in play for another top pick next summer. Sounds nuts, right? But it’s really not. In this scenario Tatum takes his time coming back and returns for 26-27 at 28 years old turning 29 in March of that season.
If executed well the team could be loaded for another window.

Spurs are trying to get something for no.14, Vassel and Barnes
They target Murphy III or Avdija, but I think this is not enough to get them (see the Bane trade). Maybe they can offer more future picks

[Stan34]

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What does this even mean

The piece about the spurs monitoring JB over the years is interesting.

Is JB’s value high enough to get #2, #14, and devin vassell from the spurs?

Is there a world where you can then flip #14 and devin vassell for KD? It’s like the best of both worlds by getting KD for short-term and #2 for the long-term

I don’t think he can get #2.
Vassell, Barnes, 14 and a couple future picks seems realistic. I don’t think the Celtics are trading him though.

Delusional.

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I don’t think he can get #2.
Vassell, Barnes, 14 and a couple future picks seems realistic. I don’t think the Celtics are trading him though.

The thing I miss about Dean on Draft is he would go hard on these top guys against other years. We really think Harper is that good we couldn’t get him for Jaylen Brown?

Like what if they traded Brown for him and he ends up being Jaylen Green? Franchise would be screwed.

Problem is "what If" can be used in any direction.. What If we had a chance to get Harper but kept Brown and his knees become chronic and he never reaches another All NBA team while Harper becomes the next Cade Cunningham?

What if Jaylen Brown never became good enough to drive a title winner? Lot more asymmetry here than you are acknowledging.

[Celts17Pride]

Spurs don’t need Harper. Facts. It’s posturing. If they can add Jaylen Brown to Wemby, Fox, Castle and Sochan they will do it.
The big question is would Brad do it. It’s a risk. A step back to take steps forward in a couple years. And if Boston did the type of move they would also trade White, Jrue and KP meaning it’s a whole new roster. And they’d be in play for another top pick next summer. Sounds nuts, right? But it’s really not. In this scenario Tatum takes his time coming back and returns for 26-27 at 28 years old turning 29 in March of that season.
If executed well the team could be loaded for another window.

Tatum is already talking to his agent about where his next destination is going to be in the NBA. Tatum would have no interest staying on a rebuilding team during his prime years in my opinion

[Fierce1]

Spurs don’t need Harper. Facts. It’s posturing. If they can add Jaylen Brown to Wemby, Fox, Castle and Sochan they will do it.
The big question is would Brad do it. It’s a risk. A step back to take steps forward in a couple years. And if Boston did the type of move they would also trade White, Jrue and KP meaning it’s a whole new roster. And they’d be in play for another top pick next summer. Sounds nuts, right? But it’s really not. In this scenario Tatum takes his time coming back and returns for 26-27 at 28 years old turning 29 in March of that season.
If executed well the team could be loaded for another window.

Tatum is already talking to his agent about where his next destination is going to be in the NBA. Tatum would have no interest staying on a rebuilding team during his prime years in my opinion

Tatum, White, KP, and PP will win 50 games, minimum.

Adding a potential Cade type PG is not rebuilding.

I don't understand why you equate losing JB to rebuilding.

[The Corey's]

It's premature to say 2026 is a recovery year.

If the Cs are in the playoffs and Tatum is back, who knows what happens in 2026.

The same **** thing that happened this year. Delusions of grandeur are running rampant around here.

You're aware this team won the title last year? Healthy our existing roster is clearly better than Indiana, is it not?

I don't want to keep repeating it so I implore people to keep up with the thread.

The same team won the title last year and this year got dominated by the Knicks.

And next year they'll be two years older then the team who won the title and without 3 of their starters.

Some of you seriously truly don't understand that spot we're in.

[The Corey's]

It's premature to say 2026 is a recovery year.

If the Cs are in the playoffs and Tatum is back, who knows what happens in 2026.

The same **** thing that happened this year. Delusions of grandeur are running rampant around here.

The 2022 Celtics were 10th in the East in January and were up 2-1 in the Finals six months later after trading for an obscure starter on a bad San Antonio team. The 2023 Nuggets won the title without facing a single team that won more than 45 games that season (and with one of their stars coming off an ACL injury). The 2024 Mavs made the Finals after literally being fined the previous season for tanking to get the #10 pick (and proceeding to use it to dump Bertans contract). The 2025 Pacers started the season 10-15 and are battling a 68 win team in the Finals. Weird stuff happens all the time.

And the 2025 Celtics will be without Tatum, Jrue and KP.

And probably one of Horford and Luke.

You may be in denial but I'm not. They're not a championship team next year.

Not without a major player coming in and the Celtics deciding to pay the second apron tax.

Tell me who that's gonna be?

[Fierce1]

JT is returning in March, 2026.

Guess some fans are just not updated about the news.

[BleedGreen1989]

JT is returning in March, 2026.

Guess some fans are just not updated about the news.

Or some fans are just making **** up?

[tfribs45]

It's premature to say 2026 is a recovery year.

If the Cs are in the playoffs and Tatum is back, who knows what happens in 2026.

AGREED, C's have many opportunities to retool / reload and get ready for JT's return. NO CHANCE this teams punts a season away.....

[Larry_Russell]

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What does this even mean

The piece about the spurs monitoring JB over the years is interesting.

Is JB’s value high enough to get #2, #14, and devin vassell from the spurs?

Is there a world where you can then flip #14 and devin vassell for KD? It’s like the best of both worlds by getting KD for short-term and #2 for the long-term

Brown to SAS

KP, Barnes and #14 to Suns

Keldon Johnson and a future pick to the nets

Durant, Nick Richards and Julian Champagnie and #2 to Boston - Sheds 21.1 million (Need to shed Hauser still into a TPE somewhere so that space is available to sign Harper.)

Harper/Pritchard
White/Sheierman
Champagnie/Draft or vet min
Durant/Horford
Richards/Kornet

[Hal14]

Spurs don’t need Harper. Facts. It’s posturing. If they can add Jaylen Brown to Wemby, Fox, Castle and Sochan they will do it.
The big question is would Brad do it. It’s a risk. A step back to take steps forward in a couple years. And if Boston did the type of move they would also trade White, Jrue and KP meaning it’s a whole new roster. And they’d be in play for another top pick next summer. Sounds nuts, right? But it’s really not. In this scenario Tatum takes his time coming back and returns for 26-27 at 28 years old turning 29 in March of that season.
If executed well the team could be loaded for another window.

Tatum is already talking to his agent about where his next destination is going to be in the NBA. Tatum would have no interest staying on a rebuilding team during his prime years in my opinion

Do you have a source confirming the bold part?

Also, ddb said nothing about rebuilding. He's describing reloading for another title window, beginning when Tatum is back healthy.

[165bows]

Spurs don’t need Harper. Facts. It’s posturing. If they can add Jaylen Brown to Wemby, Fox, Castle and Sochan they will do it.
The big question is would Brad do it. It’s a risk. A step back to take steps forward in a couple years. And if Boston did the type of move they would also trade White, Jrue and KP meaning it’s a whole new roster. And they’d be in play for another top pick next summer. Sounds nuts, right? But it’s really not. In this scenario Tatum takes his time coming back and returns for 26-27 at 28 years old turning 29 in March of that season.
If executed well the team could be loaded for another window.

Yeah, I think you're right, it's posturing.

They already have Fox and Castle.

If Fox gets an extension then that will make it even harder for Harper to get minutes.

And even if the Spurs pick Harper, at some point they will have to let one go, among the 3 PGs they have.

Right the whole thing depends on Harper being this elite PG prospect. If he was there is zero issue, just pick him, put Castle to the bench and trade Castle when the time comes. They wouldn't even need to think about trading that pick.

There are just way too many people assuming Harper is that guy when it isn't super clear imo, the guy he really reminds me of is D'Angelo Russell.

So the question was what if he is the next Cade Cunningham? Ok great so he would completely suck for three years and then still be a solidly negative efficiency scorer when Tatum is in his 30s? Brad might trade Jaylen but he's looking for an absolute mother load - you know he had discussions with Orlando about White that would have brought more back than what Bane got. He's not taking Barnes, Vassell and Nesmith 2.0 for Jaylen Brown he might as well go back to his plans of being a pharmacist for goodness sake.