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Re: Jarace Walker to Brooklyn 

Post#21 » by cgf » Wed Jun 18, 2025 1:30 pm

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BlazersBroncos wrote:It might sting but I think Toppin is the guy that is moved. Slide Jarace into his role.

Toppin has a bit of value to me. Could see him into BRK cap space for 36.


Toppin fits perfectly in his role at the 4. Walker has developed into a 3/4 and I expect him to get more minutes as a 3 next season. Furphy should also have an expanded role which leaves Nesmith/Mathurin/Sheppard TBD.


If you can get Nesmith re-signed at a good price, I think his tenacity & physicality is just too important for you...especially with the way he's shooting this year. I like Sheppard a lot as 3&D guard, so would hold onto him if you can...though I've been underwhelmed by Furphy.

Mathurin is the big wildcard to me. I think at some point he'll want to leave for a starting spot if he can't claim one with you, so maybe you should try to use him to consolidate talent before he grumbles...but the punch he gave you off the bench was critical to your beating us in the ECF and is one of the main elements that makes your bench so deadly.
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Re: Jarace Walker to Brooklyn 

Post#22 » by Wizop » Wed Jun 18, 2025 1:31 pm

cgf wrote:Quenton Jackson looks like a player


he's a two-way and more of a 2 than a 1. RayJ is the two-way with the potential to be a backup point guard soon.
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Re: Jarace Walker to Brooklyn 

Post#23 » by Texas Chuck » Wed Jun 18, 2025 1:36 pm

Reading this thread it feels like Indiana has a good problem of having more players they like than rotation spots for them. If reports are true about them paying luxury tax then you don't necessarily have to make any touch choices with any of them. Injuries/development or not would then take care of who plays and who doesn't.
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Re: Jarace Walker to Brooklyn 

Post#24 » by cgf » Wed Jun 18, 2025 1:37 pm

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cgf wrote:Quenton Jackson looks like a player


he's a two-way and more of a 2 than a 1. RayJ is the two-way with the potential to be a backup point guard soon.


I can't say I remember seeing RayJ play for you so have no feelings about that kid...but I think you'd have plenty of ballhandling if you staggered Nemb's minutes a little so you could run Jackson, Nembhard, and Mathurin out there together. I know that there are some games Hali just needs Nemb out there with him as a release valve, but I think there's a lot of minutes that you would have no problem dealing with, with Hali, Sheppard, Nesmith, & Siakam handling the ball.
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Re: Jarace Walker to Brooklyn 

Post#25 » by cgf » Wed Jun 18, 2025 1:38 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:Reading this thread it feels like Indiana has a good problem of having more players they like than rotation spots for them. If reports are true about them paying luxury tax then you don't necessarily have to make any touch choices with any of them. Injuries/development or not would then take care of who plays and who doesn't.


Or...since we've been such good bros on the GB all year & we let them have Obi when we couldn't make the most of his abilities at that time...they could be cool and let me have Jarace for Pacome++ now that Jarace is ready for a big minute bench gig that they may not be able to guarantee him :D
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Re: Jarace Walker to Brooklyn 

Post#26 » by Wizop » Wed Jun 18, 2025 1:43 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:Reading this thread it feels like Indiana has a good problem of having more players they like than rotation spots for them. If reports are true about them paying luxury tax then you don't necessarily have to make any touch choices with any of them. Injuries/development or not would then take care of who plays and who doesn't.


We're willing to pay tax to keep Turner but a year from now Maturin's second contract will be a problem.
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Re: Jarace Walker to Brooklyn 

Post#27 » by cgf » Wed Jun 18, 2025 1:45 pm

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BlazersBroncos wrote:It might sting but I think Toppin is the guy that is moved. Slide Jarace into his role.

Toppin has a bit of value to me. Could see him into BRK cap space for 36.


They could just move McConnell and keep both forwards...unfortunately, Quenton Jackson looks like a player and Nembhard can do more on the ball when Hali rests...but until that happens I'll keep trying to speak Jarace-to-NYK into existence :lol:


We do like Jackson, and he’s a useful guy, but he’s not got an impact on McConnell, as Jackson isn’t a ball handler. He’s a defensive guard that would otherwise look to score. He’s not a distributor. Of our two ways that could be seen as a PG/distributor, it would more likely be RayJ Dennis.


As I said to Wizop, I don't remember seeing Dennis so have no input on him. But if you staggered Nemb's minutes a bit with Sheppard; then Nembhard, Jackson, and Mathurin, would still leave you with better ballhandling than 99% of other 2nd units. Jackson may not be a natural PG, but he can bring the ball up and toss it to Andrew or other-Ben to initiate...when you can't hit Obi as he leaks out.
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Re: Jarace Walker to Brooklyn 

Post#28 » by cgf » Wed Jun 18, 2025 1:46 pm

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Texas Chuck wrote:Reading this thread it feels like Indiana has a good problem of having more players they like than rotation spots for them. If reports are true about them paying luxury tax then you don't necessarily have to make any touch choices with any of them. Injuries/development or not would then take care of who plays and who doesn't.


We're willing to pay tax to keep Turner but a year from now Maturin's second contract will be a problem.


Yeah, Mathurin is the guy I'm very curious about how you handle. Especially because I think he'll eventually want to start but he doesn't fit your starting 5 as well as Nembhard or Nesmith.
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Re: Jarace Walker to Brooklyn 

Post#29 » by nykballa2k4 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:12 pm

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BlazersBroncos wrote:It might sting but I think Toppin is the guy that is moved. Slide Jarace into his role.

Toppin has a bit of value to me. Could see him into BRK cap space for 36.


Toppin fits perfectly in his role at the 4. Walker has developed into a 3/4 and I expect him to get more minutes as a 3 next season. Furphy should also have an expanded role which leaves Nesmith/Mathurin/Sheppard TBD.


Toppin is great for his role, but at the end of the day, he's been terrific at his role since about year 2. His price tag is why you move him, his value is why you CAN move him. Basically he could cost you 2 role players (like resigning playoff darling Bryant) AND the ability to hold onto someone like Walker.
He is a luxury not an essential. If ownership is cool with that -- keep him! Your depth is your dagger! If they are looking to cut costs, he is the little bit of fat to trim.
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Re: Jarace Walker to Brooklyn 

Post#30 » by Wizop » Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:37 pm

cgf wrote:As I said to Wizop, I don't remember seeing Dennis so have no input on him.


understandable as he played almost exclusively in the G-League with only a few garbage time minutes with the Pacers. as a two-way, he's ineligible in the playoffs. his next opportunity should be summer league.
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Re: Jarace Walker to Brooklyn 

Post#31 » by oldncreaky » Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:44 pm

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BlazersBroncos wrote:I think Jarace is closer to 19+36 but I am still a Walker stan.


As is Indy. He’d be playing solid minutes in the finals if he hadn’t majorly rolled his ankle in the ECF.

Indy has been searching for a big combo forward that can defend for around a decade now. I really doubt they give up the one they’ve found that they really like. They drafted him REALLY YOUNG, and knew that he would need development, including completely reworking his shot. If, as the reports are that Indy is willing to pay the tax to keep this team together a few years, I really doubt they’d deal Walker. He’s kind of the key for any “advancement” for the Pacers going forward in his development.


I think Walker's absence has had an under-rated impact in the Finals. I'm sure Rick would have loved to have him as an option when Nesmith has gotten into foul trouble because Walker is a far, far better defender than his other options -- and Nesmith fouling out had a material impact on the pivotal game 4

For all of Indiana's vaunted depth, it's mostly at G because a lot of the depth at C and PF is injured rn. I'm hoping Indy runs it back and pays luxury tax next season because they are soooo close and so fun to watch.
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