2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft - Volume III

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VJ is my realistic pick, but the only guy with size, elite footwork and intangibles, rim pressure, ball handling with counter moves, and vision in our range is Derik Queen. Plus he has upside as a shooter.

I would love to be sold on Queen.

What I see is an undersized big. He shot 35.3% in the midrange and 20% on 1.2 3PA from 3. I'm worried that center will be the only position he can play and he lacks the skills there to succeed.

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He leaked the script. They were trying to keep this one on the low.

Morey you sly dog...

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Kon aced the Steph Curry Star Drill over a Microsoft Teams meeting

Meanwhile Ace is marching around the country trying to figure out why his facetime to schedule the Camden lunch never got a response...

Cold world.

[Iverson Armband]

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My theory is the prospects who are the “athletic” guys (VJ & Ace), they are bringing in for actual workouts to see it up close. The guys they are more sure about skill wise (Kon & Tre) they are doing a more interview process because they are more confident of their abilities. No reason to have Kon and Tre in the facility to watch them make 99 out of 100 jumpers

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My theory is the prospects who are the “athletic” guys (VJ & Ace), they are bringing in for actual workouts to see it up close. The guys they are more sure about skill wise (Kon & Tre) they are doing a more interview process because they are more confident of their abilities. No reason to have Kon and Tre in the facility to watch them make 99 out of 100 jumpers

I’d want to put Kon and Tre through the paces defensively but agree that a shooting workout is pointless for them.

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Lol, poor Knipples, he will tell Morey he´s a good shooter from a zoom call

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My theory is the prospects who are the “athletic” guys (VJ & Ace), they are bringing in for actual workouts to see it up close. The guys they are more sure about skill wise (Kon & Tre) they are doing a more interview process because they are more confident of their abilities. No reason to have Kon and Tre in the facility to watch them make 99 out of 100 jumpers

Kon & Tre hive joining forces. I'll take all the cavalry I can get.

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My theory is the prospects who are the “athletic” guys (VJ & Ace), they are bringing in for actual workouts to see it up close. The guys they are more sure about skill wise (Kon & Tre) they are doing a more interview process because they are more confident of their abilities. No reason to have Kon and Tre in the facility to watch them make 99 out of 100 jumpers

Kon & Tre hive joining forces. I'll take all the cavalry I can get.

Lmao

[sodmoraes]

Sixers development in the ben simmons era. Fail.

All things being equal I would love to have Cedric Coward in this draft. But for all his maturity and grit the guy is going to be 22 when the season starts Ace will be 18 and VJ maybe 30.

It´s already becoming mainstream that VJ Ibaka is way older than he tells:

[CPops57]

Lol, poor Knipples, he will tell Morey he´s a good shooter from a zoom call

He's probably been working on the Powerpoint presentation for months.

Ace Bailey even lacks Microsoft Word fundamentals.

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[76ciology]

Do you guys think Siakam is a good comp for Bailey? I think they have a lot of similarities: good athletic abilities, good mid range jumper, good defenders and not good passers(although siakam is better). I think Bailey will be a better shooter from 3 than Pascal, and he´s more of a SF while Siakam is more of a PF, but i think they arent that different.

I think that's Bailey ceiling. A small forward Pascal. I don't think Bailey will be able to play PF cause of how slim he is.

So playing Bailey at the 3 is going to kinda negate his weakside D.

Siakam thrives in the paint, it’s his natural habitat. He attacks aggressively with his dominant hand and often counters with a predictable spin move to the other side (that Tobi likes to anticipate), similar to Bailey.

I think a better comparison is an athletic Marcus Morris? I know it may sound funny but watch some of his highlights.

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Off ball screen actions, spot-up c&s, turnaround jumpers, and shooting over defenders in isolation. Not a lot of playmaking. And since Bailey is more athletic, I’m projecting him to be a much better defender.

[76ciology]

https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/article/2025-nba-draft-will-spurs-76ers-trade-down-from-top-3-its-a-rare-move-but-heres-why-it-could-make-sense-141356665.html

Will Spurs, Sixers trade down?

The Spurs hold the second pick. The Sixers are third. San Antonio and Philly aren’t shopping their picks per se, but they’re listening. League sources say New Orleans (seventh) and Brooklyn (eighth) have reached out about moving up. The teams drafting fourth through sixth — the Hornets, Jazz, and Wizards, respectively — all have three top-45 picks and a stash of future ammo. They’re lurking too. Even the Sixers reportedly inquired with the Spurs about swapping spots.


There’s so much gossip around these picks because the two players projected to go after Cooper Flagg don’t cleanly fit the Spurs or Sixers in the second and third spots.

One year ago, the Spurs drafted guard Stephon Castle in the lottery. Months later, they traded for point guard De’Aaron Fox. And now they’re in position to pick Rutgers point guard Dylan Harper, a 6-foot-5 freight train with a shaky jumper. That’s three guards, none of whom are knockdown shooters, surrounding a generational 7-foot-5 center in Victor Wembanyama. The Spurs likely wouldn’t have traded for Fox if they knew they’d end up with Harper. Now they could have three non-shooting guards and Wemby wondering if San Antonio doesn’t believe in space.


Philadelphia’s problem is different. Harper’s teammate Ace Bailey is a high-variance bet as a 6-8 shot-maker with tantalizing upside but little discipline, shaky playmaking, and questionable defense. The Sixers aren’t in the business of developmental projects when they’re trying to win with Joel Embiid right now and invest in a future that can survive without him. Bailey checks the future box, but not the present day box.


Harper actually fits better in Philly than in San Antonio, since Tyrese Maxey and Jared McCain provide elite shooting in the backcourt, plus other role players can create enough space that mitigates the need for Harper to ever become a knockdown guy. And Bailey makes more sense for a team like Brooklyn or New Orleans — or any franchise that can afford to roll the dice on upside.

So the question becomes: If San Antonio and Philly don’t love the board, and other teams do, could we finally see a top-3 trade down?

VJ, and why I think VJ is Dylan’s biggest threat at #2

Why the Spurs would do it: Wemby needs both spacing and athletes flying around him. Edgecombe does both. If the Spurs want to surround their star with hungry role players who cut, defend, and shoot? VJ checks those boxes while still retaining star upside.

Why the Sixers would do it: Edgecombe is such a perfect fit that he might end up the pick even if the Sixers stay put at No. 3: He would give Philly speed and physicality on the wing, and he doesn’t need the offense to run through him. In the short-term, he can light a fuse for his team. In the long-term, maybe he blossoms into something special.

[76ciology]

VJ is my realistic pick, but the only guy with size, elite footwork and intangibles, rim pressure, ball handling with counter moves, and vision in our range is Derik Queen. Plus he has upside as a shooter.

VJ realistic pick.
KJ and then Tre as my idealistic picks.

[76ciology]

Personally, if I were the Spurs, I’d be looking to win now while their young core is still on rookie deals or first extensions. That’s how you build depth, and it’s exactly what helped teams like the Pacers and especially the Thunder make deep playoff runs. You also dont know when Wemby’s time will be up.

[CPops57]

Personally, if I were the Spurs, I’d be looking to win now while their young core is still on rookie deals or first extensions. That’s how you build depth, and it’s exactly what helped teams like the Pacers and especially the Thunder make deep playoff runs. You also dont know when Wemby’s time will be up.

I agree, as long as they don't make moves that substantially shortens the size of their possible championship window. It's premature for them to make desperation moves.

By my way of thinking, there are 2 smart moves for the Spurs here.

Trade back a bit and either:

1) Grab a big man that they think can eat up minutes at center and serve as an enforcer for Wemby. They need to preserve and protect their prize asset for as long as possible by limiting his time spent banging against big players. And let's face it, it would be nice for them to also have somebody that can pull a Draymond/Laimbeer against the other team if teams start physically targeting Wemby as badly as WNBA players are targeting Caitlin Clark.

2) Take Kon Kneuppel. He's a better positional fit as a 2/3. He's ready to contribute as a spacer and lob thrower for Wemby right now. And he's a high IQ kid who fits the general Spurs system very well.

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I have no idea how credible he is but he is a beat writer for The Salt Lake Tribune.

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I have no idea how credible he is but he is a beat writer for The Salt Lake Tribune.

Clear cap space for the flexibility to sign some mid player who aren’t as good as George