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Re: Random Thoughts XX (that's 20) 

Post#661 » by wade44 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 6:36 am

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It’s been tough sledding for south Florida since the big 3 Heat years especially Phins and Fish, very refreshing to see fans rally behind and get energized by the other south Florida team


Forget last 30 years, the Fins haven’t even appeared in a superbowl for 40 years. I don’t think they have won a championship for over 50 years though I am too lazy to fact check. If the fins started as an inaugural franchise in 1985, they would be viewed as the worst franchise in the league. A team that could not even get their qb to another superbowl. Fins need new leadership and that includes a new team owner.


Been a long time Phins fan and it’s safe to say they’re simply in the same empty tier as the marlins. Both teams are literally afterthoughts in their respective sports. Phins have not won a playoff game in going on 25 years or something crazy I stopped keeping track.
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Re: Random Thoughts XX (that's 20) 

Post#662 » by contract » Wed Jun 18, 2025 9:06 am

Johnny Fontane wrote:Been a long time Phins fan and it’s safe to say they’re simply in the same empty tier as the marlins. Both teams are literally afterthoughts in their respective sports. Phins have not won a playoff game in going on 25 years or something crazy I stopped keeping track.

Since the Dolphins last won a Super Bowl, the Heat have won 3 NBA championships, the Marlins have won 2 World Series, and the Panthers have won the Stanley Cup twice ... and none of them even existed until '88. The youngest Dolphins fans that can actually remember the last time they won were born in the 1960s. Most fans alive today would never believe that the Dolphins were once one of the most successful franchises in the NFL.
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Re: Random Thoughts XX (that's 20) 

Post#663 » by wade44 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 1:26 pm

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Johnny Fontane wrote:Been a long time Phins fan and it’s safe to say they’re simply in the same empty tier as the marlins. Both teams are literally afterthoughts in their respective sports. Phins have not won a playoff game in going on 25 years or something crazy I stopped keeping track.

Since the Dolphins last won a Super Bowl, the Heat have won 3 NBA championships, the Marlins have won 2 World Series, and the Panthers have won the Stanley Cup twice ... and none of them even existed until '88. The youngest Dolphins fans that can actually remember the last time they won were born in the 1960s. Most fans alive today would never believe that the Dolphins were once one of the most successful franchises in the NFL.


Yup, so many seasons of false hope fueled by splash free agent or trades only to be let down every time. The current assortment of high ego, high paid, and underperforming bums advocating for each other to get paid the maximum…

Until Ross, Grier, and all the other clowns at the top get removed, good luck getting long time fans to care again.
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Re: Random Thoughts XX (that's 20) 

Post#664 » by Vertical Limit » Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:51 pm

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It’s been tough sledding for south Florida since the big 3 Heat years especially Phins and Fish, very refreshing to see fans rally behind and get energized by the other south Florida team


Forget last 30 years, the Fins haven’t even appeared in a superbowl for 40 years. I don’t think they have won a championship for over 50 years though I am too lazy to fact check. If the fins started as an inaugural franchise in 1985, they would be viewed as the worst franchise in the league. A team that could not even get their qb to another superbowl. Fins need new leadership and that includes a new team owner.


Been a long time Phins fan and it’s safe to say they’re simply in the same empty tier as the marlins. Both teams are literally afterthoughts in their respective sports. Phins have not won a playoff game in going on 25 years or something crazy I stopped keeping track.

The Mcdaniels’ dolphins problem is very similar to the problems the heat are having with their players.. they over commit to the players.

Look what we did last year, we made Jalen Ramsey the highest paid CB with an extension. and before the first year kicked in, we tell him we dont want him anymore.. now we are trying to trade him and we have no one interested at his salary.

Is chubb even going to be good this upcoming season

Im not sure we will ever win a playoff game with tua at quarterback.. he misses a lot of games with injury. He has that concussion issue.

And then when he is available, there are games he looks great and other games that youre left thinking, where the **** was that football suppose to go?? We are stuck with him at least 2 more years and because of the money owed, we have to hope he finally has a complete season where he is present and that he is locked in and plays consistently at a high level, not just against average teams.

We have a bad record against above average and elite teams…
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Re: Random Thoughts XX (that's 20) 

Post#665 » by wade44 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:06 pm

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Forget last 30 years, the Fins haven’t even appeared in a superbowl for 40 years. I don’t think they have won a championship for over 50 years though I am too lazy to fact check. If the fins started as an inaugural franchise in 1985, they would be viewed as the worst franchise in the league. A team that could not even get their qb to another superbowl. Fins need new leadership and that includes a new team owner.


Been a long time Phins fan and it’s safe to say they’re simply in the same empty tier as the marlins. Both teams are literally afterthoughts in their respective sports. Phins have not won a playoff game in going on 25 years or something crazy I stopped keeping track.

The Mcdaniels’ dolphins problem is very similar to the problems the heat are having with their players.. they over commit to the players.

Look what we did last year, we made Jalen Ramsey the highest paid CB with an extension. and before the first year kicked in, we tell him we dont want him anymore.. now we are trying to trade him and we have no one interested at his salary.

Is chubb even going to be good this upcoming season

Im not sure we will ever win a playoff game with tua at quarterback.. he misses a lot of games with injury. He has that concussion issue.

And then when he is available, there are games he looks great and other games that youre left thinking, where the **** was that football suppose to go?? We are stuck with him at least 2 more years and because of the money owed, we have to hope he finally has a complete season where he is present and that he is locked in and plays consistently at a high level, not just against average teams.

We have a bad record against above average and elite teams…


Agreed with all of the above. Dolphins have no cap flexibility because they blew their load on overpaying name over production. Didn’t like the Ramsey deal when it first happened and it looks even worse now that we embarrassingly can’t get rid of him
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Re: Random Thoughts XX (that's 20) 

Post#666 » by HeatFanLifer » Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:15 pm

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Been a long time Phins fan and it’s safe to say they’re simply in the same empty tier as the marlins. Both teams are literally afterthoughts in their respective sports. Phins have not won a playoff game in going on 25 years or something crazy I stopped keeping track.

The Mcdaniels’ dolphins problem is very similar to the problems the heat are having with their players.. they over commit to the players.

Look what we did last year, we made Jalen Ramsey the highest paid CB with an extension. and before the first year kicked in, we tell him we dont want him anymore.. now we are trying to trade him and we have no one interested at his salary.

Is chubb even going to be good this upcoming season

Im not sure we will ever win a playoff game with tua at quarterback.. he misses a lot of games with injury. He has that concussion issue.

And then when he is available, there are games he looks great and other games that youre left thinking, where the **** was that football suppose to go?? We are stuck with him at least 2 more years and because of the money owed, we have to hope he finally has a complete season where he is present and that he is locked in and plays consistently at a high level, not just against average teams.

We have a bad record against above average and elite teams…


Agreed with all of the above. Dolphins have no cap flexibility because they blew their load on overpaying name over production. Didn’t like the Ramsey deal when it first happened and it looks even worse now that we embarrassingly can’t get rid of him



The formula for winning a SB is pretty much always the same: build through the draft, get maximum value economical players when signing FA’s, and have a QB that performs under pressure. The fins however have been in perennial win-now mode where coaches/management believe they need to win this season or they will be fired. So they trade picks, they don’t trade for picks, and they go after expensive big name players in FA (Tyreek Hill). Also, yeah Tua aint it. Time to move on to a new QB.
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Re: Random Thoughts XX (that's 20) 

Post#667 » by wade44 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:31 pm

HeatFanLifer wrote:
Johnny Fontane wrote:
Vertical Limit wrote:The Mcdaniels’ dolphins problem is very similar to the problems the heat are having with their players.. they over commit to the players.

Look what we did last year, we made Jalen Ramsey the highest paid CB with an extension. and before the first year kicked in, we tell him we dont want him anymore.. now we are trying to trade him and we have no one interested at his salary.

Is chubb even going to be good this upcoming season

Im not sure we will ever win a playoff game with tua at quarterback.. he misses a lot of games with injury. He has that concussion issue.

And then when he is available, there are games he looks great and other games that youre left thinking, where the **** was that football suppose to go?? We are stuck with him at least 2 more years and because of the money owed, we have to hope he finally has a complete season where he is present and that he is locked in and plays consistently at a high level, not just against average teams.

We have a bad record against above average and elite teams…


Agreed with all of the above. Dolphins have no cap flexibility because they blew their load on overpaying name over production. Didn’t like the Ramsey deal when it first happened and it looks even worse now that we embarrassingly can’t get rid of him



The formula for winning a SB is pretty much always the same: build through the draft, get maximum value economical players when signing FA’s, and have a QB that performs under pressure. The fins however have been in perennial win-now mode where coaches/management believe they need to win this season or they will be fired. So they trade picks, they don’t trade for picks, and they go after expensive big name players in FA (Tyreek Hill). Also, yeah Tua aint it. Time to move on to a new QB.


Yep and when a regime doesn’t understand that basic fundamental, they need to go too. The issue is we chose Tua and now are going down with the ship with so much invested in this build. It’s astonishing how Grier still has a job despite failure after failure in the draft. His literally best attribute is winning trades for the rights of overpaying players. Hard cap is a thing in this league
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Post#668 » by gom » Fri Jun 20, 2025 3:03 am

Wow! Botafogo beat effing PSG!!!
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Post#669 » by Vertical Limit » Fri Jun 20, 2025 4:28 am

gom wrote:Wow! Botafogo beat effing PSG!!!

Im not sure what to make of it, a lot of players would much rather be on holiday than playing this cup..

But theres been some fun atmospheres and good games so far… i know for damn sure on a serious match, psg would win by two touchdowns and fc porto would beat inter miami 9 times out of 10
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Post#670 » by gom » Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:41 am

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gom wrote:Wow! Botafogo beat effing PSG!!!

Im not sure what to make of it, a lot of players would much rather be on holiday than playing this cup..

But theres been some fun atmospheres and good games so far… i know for damn sure on a serious match, psg would win by two touchdowns and fc porto would beat inter miami 9 times out of 10


I think it's exciting. I've heard plenty of excuses from European teams, but they had a 2-week break and their season doesn't start until end of July this season.

Flamengo, my team, Rubro-Negro, same colors as Miami Heat, beat Chelsea today. I'm tripping! :-)
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Re: Random Thoughts XX (that's 20) 

Post#671 » by contract » Sun Jun 22, 2025 1:30 am

Trump declares war on Iran on behalf of Israel.
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Post#672 » by wade44 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 3:42 am

contract wrote:Trump declares war on Iran on behalf of Israel.


37 trillion in debt and planting ourselves right in the middle of a dangerous and expensive war :nonono:
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Post#673 » by HeatFanLifer » Sun Jun 22, 2025 4:14 am

contract wrote:Trump declares war on Iran on behalf of Israel.


Trump nor America answers to anyone except Americans. Israel may have provided America with some intel on the dangers of this site, but make no mistake this was eliminating what he believed to be an American threat. I think Trump tried every possible diplomatic outlet till they were exhausted and I think Iran with a nuke would have made America a less safe country. Do I support the decision? No, I don’t **** know the **** he does so I can’t say whether I agree the time to act was necessary or required now. But I trust him as our President.
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Post#674 » by contract » Sun Jun 22, 2025 11:40 am

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contract wrote:Trump declares war on Iran on behalf of Israel.


37 trillion in debt and planting ourselves right in the middle of a dangerous and expensive war :nonono:

It won't be expensive. Iran can't do much to engage us militarily. The real potential fallout is acts of terrorism.
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Post#675 » by Tony15 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 12:40 pm

Ludicrous as this may sound….I’m surprised the Lakers only (LOL!) sold for $10 billion. Figured after Boston went for just north of 6, that LAL would be worth at least double.


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Post#676 » by Shewasfly » Sun Jun 22, 2025 2:27 pm

Remember this?

Donald Trump: 'I Could ... Shoot Somebody, And I Wouldn't Lose Any Voters'

Turns out he can drop bombs too. And without the approval of Congress. And still wouldn't.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/01/23/464129029/donald-trump-i-could-shoot-somebody-and-i-wouldnt-lose-any-voters

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Post#677 » by oreon » Sun Jun 22, 2025 3:11 pm

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contract wrote:Trump declares war on Iran on behalf of Israel.


Trump nor America answers to anyone except Americans. Israel may have provided America with some intel on the dangers of this site, but make no mistake this was eliminating what he believed to be an American threat. I think Trump tried every possible diplomatic outlet till they were exhausted and I think Iran with a nuke would have made America a less safe country. Do I support the decision? No, I don’t **** know the **** he does so I can’t say whether I agree the time to act was necessary or required now. But I trust him as our President.


No he didn't. He's the main reason it got here. He pulled out of the Obama deal. If he hadn't there wouldn't be need for a new deal.
The Israelis saw an opportunity and took it and drag the US with it. If you are going to strike Iran, there's no better opportunity than now. Their proxies Hezbollah, Houthis, Hamas were all neutered. Assad regime fell as well. So consequences of attacking them were never going to be any lower.

Trump could have continued the negotiations. There's was no imminent reason to do it now.

Now it may work. Israel took out their air defenses. So if Iran continues to retaliate they will take the worse of it.

I try to be far. Its a gamble, at an opportune time that looks like it will work. But this wasn't a US led decision. Israel took the initiative and convinced Trump to join in. The way I see, it probably dies down in a few weeks. Israel owns Iran's skies, so Iran can't afford this war indefinitely. They probably take the L and try to rebuild.
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Post#678 » by SoFlaKingReal » Sun Jun 22, 2025 5:20 pm

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Post#679 » by HeatFanLifer » Sun Jun 22, 2025 5:52 pm

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No he didn't. He's the main reason it got here. He pulled out of the Obama deal. If he hadn't there wouldn't be need for a new deal.


The JCPOA was a stop gag measure that required more diplomacy. The JCPOA had two milestones one was transition day and one was termination day.

In short — the core nuclear restrictions lasted until October 2023 (transition day), while the legal framework (including snap‑back sanctions) stayed in force until October 18,  2025 (termination day). Source (UN Resolution 2231).
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Post#680 » by oreon » Sun Jun 22, 2025 6:02 pm

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No he didn't. He's the main reason it got here. He pulled out of the Obama deal. If he hadn't there wouldn't be need for a new deal.


The JCPOA was a stop gag measure that required more diplomacy. The JCPOA had two milestones one was transition day and one was termination day.

In short — the core nuclear restrictions lasted until October 2023 (transition day), while the legal framework (including snap‑back sanctions) stayed in force until October 18,  2025 (termination day). Source (UN Resolution 2231).


They were complying. So had the deal stayed in place, even after it ended Iran would have been further away from a bomb than it was in place.
If goal was to stop them from getting one. Then you don't pull out. Cuz guess what happened when they did, Iran started enriching to a higher level

And once the deal ended, you renegotiate another deal.

That's how the arms treaty with the russians work. There's a deal for certain amount of time and then when it needs new talks begin

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