2025 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 – Capture the Flagg

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Statistically, the Kalkmeister is a Defensive and Offensive Stud...

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There's no way Kalkbrenner, Dixon and Goldin are better scorers than Ace, Harper, Flagg and Tre..

[playa-hater]

Updated list of who we've worked out ahead of the draft..



Guys who withdrew from the draft are crossed out.

Lots of old guys lol. And not many who are projected to get picked in the top 35..as I mentioned before, most of these guys look like potentially just some bodies to help full out rosters for summer league/training camp/G league team..

I have pretty much no interest in the rest of the list, outside of the top 5 guys listed (Coward, Broome, Powell, Small, Lanier). Those 5 guys do interest me, to some extent - especially Coward but Coward is the least likely to be their when we pick (unless we trade up).

Some of the Coward film I've seen, does look a bit Kawhi-esque. Obviously I'm not expecting him to be *that* good. But just the possibility that he can be even a poor man's version of Kawhi (while being a better shooter in college than Kawhi was) is enough for him to be worth a top 15 pick, imo.

a few questions.

Do you think there have been players (maybe top rated) that Boston has worked out but kept quiet about for obvious reasons?

Would Brad draft a player he hasn't worked out?

please do not say this is who our choices will be

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Updated list of who we've worked out ahead of the draft..



Guys who withdrew from the draft are crossed out.

Lots of old guys lol. And not many who are projected to get picked in the top 35..as I mentioned before, most of these guys look like potentially just some bodies to help full out rosters for summer league/training camp/G league team..

I have pretty much no interest in the rest of the list, outside of the top 5 guys listed (Coward, Broome, Powell, Small, Lanier). Those 5 guys do interest me, to some extent - especially Coward but Coward is the least likely to be their when we pick (unless we trade up).

Some of the Coward film I've seen, does look a bit Kawhi-esque. Obviously I'm not expecting him to be *that* good. But just the possibility that he can be even a poor man's version of Kawhi (while being a better shooter in college than Kawhi was) is enough for him to be worth a top 15 pick, imo.

a few questions.

Do you think there have been players (maybe top rated) that Boston has worked out but kept quiet about for obvious reasons?

Would Brad draft a player he hasn't worked out?

please do not say this is who our choices will be

Yes, it's possible there could be some players we've worked out but we kept it quiet. It happened in 2021 with Begarin..he wasn't on the workout reports for us before the draft but then we found out after the draft that he actually did workout for us.

That kind of stuff (working a guy out but keeping it out of the media) happens more often with guys projected in the top 15-20 picks so chances are, if there's guys we have worked out but they're not on the list, they are projected top 15-20 picks. I wouldn't be surprised if a guy like Riley, Jakucionis, Carter Bryant, Fleming or Markovic (maybe Raynaud or Clayton) has actually worked out for us and we don't know about it.

But that's not a guarantee. There's a chance (how big a chance, idk) that this is the complete list, at least as of now. Still about a week left till the draft so there could be more guys we will be working out (maybe today, maybe later in the week) or maybe some guys we worked out in the past few days who the media hasn't found out about yet..

But last year, Scheierman and Watson were on the workout reports for us - we drafted both..same thing with Walsh the year before that..

As for JD, we did not work him out at all before the draft but still took him..probably because a pick that late in the draft it doesn't mean that much and the good players we worked out were probably all off the board..and we probably already scouted him quite a bit during his HS/college career..

[playa-hater]

Updated list of who we've worked out ahead of the draft..



Guys who withdrew from the draft are crossed out.

Lots of old guys lol. And not many who are projected to get picked in the top 35..as I mentioned before, most of these guys look like potentially just some bodies to help full out rosters for summer league/training camp/G league team..

I have pretty much no interest in the rest of the list, outside of the top 5 guys listed (Coward, Broome, Powell, Small, Lanier). Those 5 guys do interest me, to some extent - especially Coward but Coward is the least likely to be their when we pick (unless we trade up).

Some of the Coward film I've seen, does look a bit Kawhi-esque. Obviously I'm not expecting him to be *that* good. But just the possibility that he can be even a poor man's version of Kawhi (while being a better shooter in college than Kawhi was) is enough for him to be worth a top 15 pick, imo.

a few questions.

Do you think there have been players (maybe top rated) that Boston has worked out but kept quiet about for obvious reasons?

Would Brad draft a player he hasn't worked out?

please do not say this is who our choices will be

Yes, it's possible there could be some players we've worked out but we kept it quiet. It happened in 2021 with Begarin..he wasn't on the workout reports for us before the draft but then we found out after the draft that he actually did workout for us.

That kind of stuff (working a guy out but keeping it out of the media) happens more often with guys projected in the top 15-20 picks so chances are, if there's guys we have worked out but they're not on the list, they are projected top 15-20 picks. I wouldn't be surprised if a guy like Riley, Jakucionis, Carter Bryant, Fleming or Markovic (maybe Raynaud or Clayton) has actually worked out for us and we don't know about it.

But that's not a guarantee. There's a chance (how big a chance, idk) that this is the complete list, at least as of now. Still about a week left till the draft so there could be more guys we will be working out (maybe today, maybe later in the week) or maybe some guys we worked out in the past few days who the media hasn't found out about yet..

But last year, Scheierman and Watson were on the workout reports for us - we drafted both..same thing with Walsh the year before that..

As for JD, we did not work him out at all before the draft but still took him..probably because a pick that late in the draft it doesn't mean that much and the good players we worked out were probably all off the board..and we probably already scouted him quite a bit during his HS/college career..

I'm also wondering if a player's agent leaks out, who his player worked out for only to drum up interest from other teams. Therefore making it hard to keep quiet.

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I think kornet will probably get the money somewhere else. Cant blame him.
So kalkbrenner makes all the sense.

I've been saying the same thing. There is a good chance we lose 2 of 3 of Al, Kornet and KP.

If we stay at 28 and 32, I will like us to take 2 of the following 3 players: Maxime Raynaud, Ryan Kalkbrenner or Johni Broome. If Fleming or Clayton are still there, I wouldn't time taking one of Fleming or Clayton and one of the 3 bigs mentioned above.

[playa-hater]

I think kornet will probably get the money somewhere else. Cant blame him.
So kalkbrenner makes all the sense.

I've been saying the same thing. There is a good chance we lose 2 of 3 of Al, Kornet and KP.

If we stay at 28 and 32, I will like us to take 2 of the following 3 players: Maxime Raynaud, Ryan Kalkbrenner or Johni Broome. If Fleming or Clayton are still there, I wouldn't time taking one of Fleming or Clayton and one of the 3 bigs mentioned above.

If Boston does lose 2 of 3 centers. As you say, I still would be surprised if they draft two big men. But certainly wouldn't complain about it. Either.

[return2glory]

I think kornet will probably get the money somewhere else. Cant blame him.
So kalkbrenner makes all the sense.

I've been saying the same thing. There is a good chance we lose 2 of 3 of Al, Kornet and KP.

If we stay at 28 and 32, I will like us to take 2 of the following 3 players: Maxime Raynaud, Ryan Kalkbrenner or Johni Broome. If Fleming or Clayton are still there, I wouldn't time taking one of Fleming or Clayton and one of the 3 bigs mentioned above.

If Boston does lose 2 of 3 centers. As you say, I still would be surprised if they draft two big men. But certainly wouldn't complain about it. Either.

I think there is a chance Al resigns with Boston. I feel like someone is going to overpay Kornet, he earned it by improving his game. It wouldn't surprise me with KP is back, but could be traded at the trade deadline. If we still keep 28 and 32, it would surprise me too if Boston drafted two bigs. It's just what I prefer depending on what bigs are there. Danny hungry like the Wolf will be long gone. I feel like Fleming and Clayton are going to get picks earlier than what most mock draft picks are predicting at the moment. But I do hope one of them is still there at 28.

[brackdan70]

I think kornet will probably get the money somewhere else. Cant blame him.
So kalkbrenner makes all the sense.

I've been saying the same thing. There is a good chance we lose 2 of 3 of Al, Kornet and KP.

If we stay at 28 and 32, I will like us to take 2 of the following 3 players: Maxime Raynaud, Ryan Kalkbrenner or Johni Broome. If Fleming or Clayton are still there, I wouldn't time taking one of Fleming or Clayton and one of the 3 bigs mentioned above.

If Boston does lose 2 of 3 centers. As you say, I still would be surprised if they draft two big men. But certainly wouldn't complain about it. Either.

I mean two are free agents that can get much more elsewhere and one is a guy on the trade block potentially so we might lose 3/3

[Celticlifer]

Goldin reminds me a lot of Kornet, wouldn't be surprised to take him at 32.

[playa-hater]

I've been saying the same thing. There is a good chance we lose 2 of 3 of Al, Kornet and KP.

If we stay at 28 and 32, I will like us to take 2 of the following 3 players: Maxime Raynaud, Ryan Kalkbrenner or Johni Broome. If Fleming or Clayton are still there, I wouldn't time taking one of Fleming or Clayton and one of the 3 bigs mentioned above.

If Boston does lose 2 of 3 centers. As you say, I still would be surprised if they draft two big men. But certainly wouldn't complain about it. Either.

I mean two are free agents that can get much more elsewhere and one is a guy on the trade block potentially so we might lose 3/3

No problem.. that's where Queta turns into Hakeem Olajuwon

[phincsfan]

I'm totally against the "flip the switch" because a player should always give 100% regardless of the situation, but I think a kid like Broome falling deep into the 2nd round could be a big motivator. I'm glad to see the C's worked him out. Flipowski dropped to the 2nd rd and he had a very good season.

IMO, Broome is a safe pick who is an NBA ready big who could give any team 60+ games 15mpg as a.

[brackdan70]

If Boston does lose 2 of 3 centers. As you say, I still would be surprised if they draft two big men. But certainly wouldn't complain about it. Either.

I mean two are free agents that can get much more elsewhere and one is a guy on the trade block potentially so we might lose 3/3

No problem.. that's where Queta turns into Hakeem Olajuwon

I don’t expect that…but would settle for a longer Horford

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I'm totally against the "flip the switch" because a player should always give 100% regardless of the situation, but I think a kid like Broome falling deep into the 2nd round could be a big motivator. I'm glad to see the C's worked him out. Flipowski dropped to the 2nd rd and he had a very good season.

IMO, Broome is a safe pick who is an NBA ready big who could give any team 60+ games 15mpg as a.

Agreed..I think Broome could fit well here. He's a good passer for a big...I really like his toughness..he's a tough dude, doesn't back down from anybody..was probably the 2nd best player in college basketball this season, best player on a final 4 team.

Curious how well he shot the ball in the workout for us. Think that could sway our evaluation of him if we think he can shoot it well enough since he's not much of a lob threat and is on the older side as well..

[return2glory]

Goldin reminds me a lot of Kornet, wouldn't be surprised to take him at 32.

I watched Goldin a lot last season, when I was watching Wolf. Kornet is a better shot blocker than Goldin. Goldin is a good low post scorer with good post moves. Kornet doesn't really have a back to the basket game.

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Gary Washburn:

The Celtics, who have the 28th and 32nd picks in the draft, have mostly kept their workouts under wraps this spring. But Zarren said that more than 50 prospects have worked out in front of team brass.

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Gary Washburn:

The Celtics, who have the 28th and 32nd picks in the draft, have mostly kept their workouts under wraps this spring. But Zarren said that more than 50 prospects have worked out in front of team brass.

Oh wow lol.

The list I have (just going off Hoopshype and Rookie Wire) is 25 prospects. So that means there's 26 (or more) guys we have worked out, but it hasn't gotten to those media sources.

Interesting..

#stealthbrad

[return2glory]

I've narrowed down my bigs list of who I want if they are there at 28 and 32, hoping we keep both 28 and 32.

1. Ryan Kalkbrenner
2. Johni Broome

I prefer these guys a little over Maxime Raynaud. Maxime Raynaud's defense isn't that good right now.
Also, I don't know much about Hansen Yang.

I don't think Thomas Sorber will be there at 28. Same with Wolf.

I feel Vladislav Goldin from Michigan and Amari Williams from Kentucky are underrated bigs.

[return2glory]

I think some of these wings are underrated:

Adou Thiero (Arkansas)
Hugo Gonzalez (Real Madrid)
Koby Brea (Kentucky)
Kobe Sanders (Nevada)
Brooks Barnhizer (Northwestern)
Jamir Watkins (Florida State)

[return2glory]

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Best athlete in the draft.

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Best athlete in the draft.

and possibly the worst shooter..at least among non-bigs