JJJ

BAMAFREAK · Post #1 » by **BAMAFREAK** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:27 pm

I don’t think the Grizzlies are even taking calls on him, but packages like the 2 below would be hard to turn down.

Rockets
JJJ/16
Amen/FVV/10

JJJ would theoretically fit like a glove with Sengun. Houston is probably to on love with Amen to do this though, and rightfully so. I just wish there was a way for us to get Amen.

Spurs
JJJ/Phoenix 1st next year/16/Vince Williams
Castle/2/whichever contract needs to be involved(Barnes, Johnson)

Again, probably too rich for SA but they’d have two top 5 defenders who are mobile and can space the floor for Fox and co. Would have a chance at a premium prospect with the Phoenix 1st next year.

I doubt he gets moved but it would take a premium young player and some type of draft compensation to pry him loose.
Don’t let the 1 year fool you, he would re up either prior to the trade or have discussions with the new team prior to the deal.

jayjaysee · Post #2 » by **jayjaysee** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:29 pm

JJJ is worth a lot.

JJJ isn’t worth these asks imo.

wemby · Post #3 » by **wemby** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:50 pm

Yeah, those proposals will be hard to turn down because for that to happen they'd have to be made first, and they wont. Seriously, if you don't want to deal a player, why propose unrealistic packages knowing they have no chance of happening?

ReggiesKnicks · Post #4 » by **ReggiesKnicks** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:56 pm

Once again, these are Giannis offers, not JJJ offers.

psman2 · Post #5 » by **psman2** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:57 pm

Houston could build a enticing package for JJJ and easily overpay if they wanted. But it wouldn't include Amen.

I think 2 for JJJ is a fair offer. I don't think Castle would need to be in that package. Maybe something small added depending on the contracts coming back.

Post #6 » by **oldncreaky** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:10 pm

psman2 wrote:Houston could build a enticing package for JJJ and easily overpay if they wanted. But it wouldn't include Amen.

I think 2 for JJJ is a fair offer. I don't think Castle would need to be in that package. Maybe something small added depending on the contracts coming back.

Agree. Amen isn't a throw in. A Houston offer of something like FVV and 4 or 5 of non-lotto picks sounds closer

facothomas22 · Post #7 » by **facothomas22** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:18 pm

The Rockets are not trading Amen Thompson unless it's for a Giannis/Jokic level player. This trade simply isn't realistic.

esvl · Post #8 » by **esvl** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:18 pm

psman2 wrote:Houston could build a enticing package for JJJ and easily overpay if they wanted. But it wouldn't include Amen.

I think 2 for JJJ is a fair offer. I don't think Castle would need to be in that package. Maybe something small added depending on the contracts coming back.

What?
SAS #2 + 3 future 1sts
There is nothing enticing beyond Amen Houston can offer for JJJ.

psman2 · Post #9 » by **psman2** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:57 pm

oldncreaky wrote:
psman2 wrote:Houston could build a enticing package for JJJ and easily overpay if they wanted. But it wouldn't include Amen.

I think 2 for JJJ is a fair offer. I don't think Castle would need to be in that package. Maybe something small added depending on the contracts coming back.

Agree. Amen isn't a throw in. A Houston offer of something like FVV and 4 or 5 of non-lotto picks sounds closer

I don't think we would trade JJJ for only picks that would be for sure non-lottery picks. It would have to include a least some decent changes of lottery success on some of the picks. Amen was not treated as a throw in at all here btw. Houston would just choose to pay for JJJ in a different way if they want him.

psman2 · Post #10 » by **psman2** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:00 pm

esvl wrote:
psman2 wrote:Houston could build a enticing package for JJJ and easily overpay if they wanted. But it wouldn't include Amen.

I think 2 for JJJ is a fair offer. I don't think Castle would need to be in that package. Maybe something small added depending on the contracts coming back.

What?
SAS #2 + 3 future 1sts
There is nothing enticing beyond Amen Houston can offer for JJJ.

Depends what they put of the table. They might choose to could spin off Sengun to a 3rd team for some interesting assets and have future picks with swaps that they could offer the best of options on that have a good shot of being lottery picks. I think they can easily put forward a interesting offer if we were resigned to trading JJJ.

Astaluego · Post #11 » by **Astaluego** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:03 pm

J.Smith/Sheppard+9+Future FRP for JJJ

esvl · Post #12 » by **esvl** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:20 pm

psman2 wrote:
esvl wrote:
psman2 wrote:Houston could build a enticing package for JJJ and easily overpay if they wanted. But it wouldn't include Amen.

I think 2 for JJJ is a fair offer. I don't think Castle would need to be in that package. Maybe something small added depending on the contracts coming back.

What?
SAS #2 + 3 future 1sts
There is nothing enticing beyond Amen Houston can offer for JJJ.

Depends what they put of the table. They might choose to could spin off Sengun to a 3rd team for some interesting assets and have future picks with swaps that they could offer the best of options on that have a good shot of being lottery picks. I think they can easily put forward a interesting offer if we were resigned to trading JJJ.

I don’t see it that way. You are speaking about the Bane level return.

Djh7475 · Post #13 » by **Djh7475** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:45 pm

As others have said, I have Amen worth more than JJJ. I remember seeing a Jaylen Brown deal for Amen a while back and even as a Celtics fan I didn’t think it was realistic. Amen’s ceiling is just insane because he already looks like an elite defender with high-level ball handling, playmaking, and rebounding. If he sorts out his jump shot (I understand it’s a big if), he’ll be the best player on the Rockets within a year or 2.

I’d use the same argument for Castle but to a lesser extent. Teams just don’t trade reining rookies of the year even if it was in an underwhelming class. I’ve got Castle worth more than #2 with #2 being enough value to get JJJ.

BarbaGrizz · Post #14 » by **BarbaGrizz** » Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:52 pm

Astaluego wrote:J.Smith/Sheppard+9+Future FRP for JJJ

This offer is missing at least three unprotected FRPs to be taken serious

LarsV8 · Post #15 » by **LarsV8** » Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:12 pm

BarbaGrizz wrote:
Astaluego wrote:J.Smith/Sheppard+9+Future FRP for JJJ

This offer is missing at least three unprotected FRPs to be taken serious

JJJ doesn’t have that level of value.

Xman · Post #16 » by **Xman** » Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:52 pm

I want Ja in Houston not JJJ. Eason and Jabari are solid at pf.
I think SA should send 2, Barnes, Keldon and 14 for jjj and Clarke. Seems like win win.

If Memphis is doing this, they should want picks. 10, best two of 2027 phx/bkn/hou. Those picks are probably high lottery.

BarbaGrizz · Post #17 » by **BarbaGrizz** » Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:21 pm

LarsV8 wrote:
BarbaGrizz wrote:
Astaluego wrote:J.Smith/Sheppard+9+Future FRP for JJJ

This offer is missing at least three unprotected FRPs to be taken serious

JJJ doesn’t have that level of value.

You´re offering a late lottery pick, a future late 1st round pick and two disappointing young players for a perennial DPOY, 20ppg, all-star, entering his prime. Five picks is about right.

LarsV8 · Post #18 » by **LarsV8** » Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:34 pm

BarbaGrizz wrote:
LarsV8 wrote:
BarbaGrizz wrote:
This offer is missing at least three unprotected FRPs to be taken serious

JJJ doesn’t have that level of value.

You´re offering a late lottery pick, a future late 1st round pick and two disappointing young players for a perennial DPOY, 20ppg, all-star, entering his prime. Five picks is about right.

Jabari and Redd aren't disappointing.

esvl · Post #19 » by **esvl** » Fri Jun 20, 2025 3:32 am

LarsV8 wrote:
BarbaGrizz wrote:
LarsV8 wrote:
JJJ doesn’t have that level of value.

You´re offering a late lottery pick, a future late 1st round pick and two disappointing young players for a perennial DPOY, 20ppg, all-star, entering his prime. Five picks is about right.

Jabari and Redd aren't disappointing.

Have they performed at the top-3 draft level?

LarsV8 · Post #20 » by **LarsV8** » Fri Jun 20, 2025 4:02 am

esvl wrote:
LarsV8 wrote:
BarbaGrizz wrote:You´re offering a late lottery pick, a future late 1st round pick and two disappointing young players for a perennial DPOY, 20ppg, all-star, entering his prime. Five picks is about right.

Jabari and Redd aren't disappointing.

Have they performed at the top-3 draft level?

They are on thier way.

I wouldn't trade either for 3 in this draft.