Kevin Durant

[Danimals]

The most I would give for KD is Randle, DDV, and 17. I’d rather use that package to upgrade point guard.

[Ethomasp31]

DDV is probably our best contract. I don't understand why people bring him up like it's no big deal to trade him. DDV made the 3rd most 3 pointers in the league two years ago while shooting over 40%. He and JMD would be the last assets I would trade...and yes that includes NAZ, Gobert, TSJ or Randle.

[cmoss84]

Wasn't it just reported that Rudy was best player offered so far, and SAS are probably keeping their assets while shying away from KD? I would take all of these hypothetical offers with a grain of salt.
One thing I am curious about: we talk about how KD would effect Ant...but how would he effect Jaden (and Naz). It seems like Jaden could definitely benefit from learning from KD.

[Guest84]

DDV is probably our best contract. I don't understand why people bring him up like it's no big deal to trade him. DDV made the 3rd most 3 pointers in the league two years ago while shooting over 40%. He and JMD would be the last assets I would trade...and yes that includes NAZ, Gobert, TSJ or Randle.

I don't think most ppl think it's no big deal. However, some ppl and even the front office may have overrated him a bit in the beginning. His playoff also didn't help his case. I prefer not to go after KD myself but for some reason it seems like the FO really wants him.

I'm tired of the wolves trying to grab stars at the tail end of their careers out of desperation.

[Ethomasp31]

Wasn't it just reported that Rudy was best player offered so far, and SAS are probably keeping their assets while shying away from KD? I would take all of these hypothetical offers with a grain of salt.
One thing I am curious about: we talk about how KD would effect Ant...but how would he effect Jaden (and Naz). It seems like Jaden could definitely benefit from learning from KD.

I agree that we have no idea what really has been offered for KD. I'm one of the people who think getting KD would be great for the Wolves, because it is the one way I see us having a chance to make the Western Conference Finals and improving again next year. By running it back I see other teams passing us in the WC. I think we would be fighting to avoid the play-in tournament. Also, I think I would rather center the trade around Randle and Naz, rather than DDV and Rudy. Mainly because if we trade Rudy we lose all of our rim protection and we would need to figure out how to replace him.

If we don't get KD, I would probably try to trade Rudy and/or Randle for other pieces that fit Ant's and JMD time frame a little better. I think a younger PG is greatly needed. If SAS make a play at KD, I would love to be involved in a trade and try to get Fox from them while giving up Randle and something to the Suns.

Something like:

Suns get:
TSJ
Randle
Barnes

Spurs get:
KD

Wolves get:
Fox

Probably needs to be some draft capital exchanged too, but Spurs could keep their young PG and KD, Wolves get a younger PG and the Suns get assets for KD.

[Ethomasp31]

DDV is probably our best contract. I don't understand why people bring him up like it's no big deal to trade him. DDV made the 3rd most 3 pointers in the league two years ago while shooting over 40%. He and JMD would be the last assets I would trade...and yes that includes NAZ, Gobert, TSJ or Randle.

I don't think most ppl think it's no big deal. However, some ppl and even the front office may have overrated him a bit in the beginning. His playoff also didn't help his case. I prefer not to go after KD myself but for some reason it seems like the FO really wants him.

I'm tired of the wolves trying to grab stars at the tail end of their careers out of desperation.

Overrated him?

The last 3 seasons he has shot 39.7%, 40.1% and 39.7% from three. With the Knicks he shot almost 43% from three in the playoffs. Two years ago the only players who made more three pointers than DDV were Curry and Luka. He is making about $12M the next two seasons. He would be the last guy we had on our roster last year I would trade after ANT and JMD. If I were the Wolves I would be trying to get him more minutes, not moving him.

[Ethomasp31]

DDV is probably our best contract. I don't understand why people bring him up like it's no big deal to trade him. DDV made the 3rd most 3 pointers in the league two years ago while shooting over 40%. He and JMD would be the last assets I would trade...and yes that includes NAZ, Gobert, TSJ or Randle.

I don't think most ppl think it's no big deal. However, some ppl and even the front office may have overrated him a bit in the beginning. His playoff also didn't help his case. I prefer not to go after KD myself but for some reason it seems like the FO really wants him.

I'm tired of the wolves trying to grab stars at the tail end of their careers out of desperation.

I think trading for KD is a good deal if we are getting rid of some of our older players who probably won't be worth their contract value in the upcoming years (Rudy and Randle). I honestly think that Naz is a neutral contract once he signs a new deal. That's why I'm okay to move him. Plus I think there are 80-100 guys as good as Naz in the NBA....there might be 15 as good as KD. I'm not saying we should just trade Naz, but to get KD I would...especially if we were getting rid of another contract that will probably have a negative value in future years.

I look at the Wolves assets in relation to their contracts they are receiving. Obviously you aren't getting rid of ANT. JMD is locked into 4 years from about $25M to $30M his last year. DDV is getting about $12M the next two seasons. Dillingham, TSJ and Clark are young developing players you probably want to keep unless you are bringing in someone who will be a difference maker. I think they are valuable trade chips. I think Naz has a lot of value around the league, but he is going to start to make serious money in the next couple of years. Depending what you could get for him, he is an asset I would move if the player coming in was a difference maker.

I think a big reason why the Wolves are so aggressively pursuing a KD trade is because they think that KD at $52M or whatever he will be making is a better contract than Rudy at $35M or Randle at $32. If they get KD they will be moving off at least one of one of those contracts. Rudy is locked in for three more years ($35M, $36.5M and $38M Players option) which could be concerning in the future and is probably why he is reported as part of that trade.

[Klomp]

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Right now, MIN is $16.6 over the second apron. To legally do a Durant trade at the deadline, we would need to send out at least $16.6 PLUS $51.2 or $67.8 mil.

Gobert ($43.8) + DiVincenzo ($11.4) + Shannon ($2.5) + #17 ($0) = $57.7 mil outgoing salary

Gobert ($43.8) + DiVincenzo ($11.4) + Dillingham ($6.3) + #17 ($0) = $61.5 mil outgoing salary

Now, maybe we are sending something else out to a third team, simultaneously, but these deals are illegal.

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While HP is saying Claxton to PHX in the tweet I shared, I'm wondering if our above offers could be closer in value if Claxton was coming here in that report. Why would Phoenix want both Claxton and Gobert? Why would Brooklyn want Gobert? This is why my speculation makes more sense.

[jpatrick]

If the Nets were involved, I always thought Phoenix would end up with Randle and Claxton. Rudy staying with us. I know that goes against what has been reported, but to me, that would be Phoenix’s best roster.

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[frankenwolf]

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OK, fine. Trade for KD and win the championship. He can play offense and defense!!

Spoiler:

Oh wait, maybe I'm being sarcastic.

[TwolvesFanRome]

Gobert TSJ Dlly DDV and #17 !?

I read this pack on twitter is our offer...TC is crazy or what!?

OVERPAY !! too much for a guy who doesn't even want to come to us!

[BlacJacMac]

Wasn't it just reported that Rudy was best player offered so far, and SAS are probably keeping their assets while shying away from KD? I would take all of these hypothetical offers with a grain of salt.
One thing I am curious about: we talk about how KD would effect Ant...but how would he effect Jaden (and Naz). It seems like Jaden could definitely benefit from learning from KD.

I agree that we have no idea what really has been offered for KD. I'm one of the people who think getting KD would be great for the Wolves, because it is the one way I see us having a chance to make the Western Conference Finals and improving again next year. By running it back I see other teams passing us in the WC. I think we would be fighting to avoid the play-in tournament. Also, I think I would rather center the trade around Randle and Naz, rather than DDV and Rudy. Mainly because if we trade Rudy we lose all of our rim protection and we would need to figure out how to replace him.

If we don't get KD, I would probably try to trade Rudy and/or Randle for other pieces that fit Ant's and JMD time frame a little better. I think a younger PG is greatly needed. If SAS make a play at KD, I would love to be involved in a trade and try to get Fox from them while giving up Randle and something to the Suns.

Something like:

Suns get:
TSJ
Randle
Barnes

Spurs get:
KD

Wolves get:
Fox

Probably needs to be some draft capital exchanged too, but Spurs could keep their young PG and KD, Wolves get a younger PG and the Suns get assets for KD.

I like the idea of getting a PG, but hate Fox on this team.

He's not a shooter or defender and his game is based so much on his speed that he's likely not going to age well. And he needs the ball in his hands to be effective.

Plus Fox is eligible for a four-year, $228 million extension that would keep him under contract for the next five seasons, including the last year of his current contract. At almost 28 years-old, we would be paying Fox through his age 32 season, when he'd be making around $60 million.

[Domejandro]

If the Nets were involved, I always thought Phoenix would end up with Randle and Claxton. Rudy staying with us. I know that goes against what has been reported, but to me, that would be Phoenix’s best roster.

For what it is worth, Phoenix would have to find a way under the Second Apron. Claxton + Randle is ~$1.5MM over Kevin Durant.

It is doable, even if pretty funky to maneuver, but just adding that fact as a note.

I am 100% on board with pretty much any configuration which keeps Jaden McDaniels and Rudy Gobert on the team. The upgrade on both sides of the ball from Julius Randle to Kevin Durant is monumental, and I think that Donte DiVincenzo’s minutes can be replaced adequately enough by youth (even if not 100%).

[BleedGreen1989]

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No brainer to me if y’all can get KD for Rudy, DDV, and a mid-first.

Guys will take cheap contracts to come play with him and Edwards.

[BleedGreen1989]

Wouldn’t Randle have to agree to opt-in then be traded? What motive does he have to help MIN get Durant?

[BlacJacMac]

Wouldn’t Randle have to agree to opt-in then be traded? What motive does he have to help MIN get Durant?

If he doesn't opt-in, he's likely looking at getting the MLE somewhere.

[Domejandro]

Wouldn’t Randle have to agree to opt-in then be traded? What motive does he have to help MIN get Durant?

Phoenix offering a longer-term extension. That’s the only answer to pick it up ahead of time, at least until the deadline on the 29th.

[Klomp]

Wouldn’t Randle have to agree to opt-in then be traded? What motive does he have to help MIN get Durant?

If he doesn't opt-in, he's likely looking at getting the MLE somewhere.

Not a chance.