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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#701 » by the_process » Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:58 pm

HOU gets Oubre and 3
PHI gets Jabari, Barrett, Poeltl, and 9
TOR gets Embiid and 10
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#702 » by stormi » Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:19 pm

the_process wrote:HOU gets Oubre and 3
PHI gets Jabari, Barrett, Poeltl, and 9
TOR gets Embiid and 10


Don't see the incentive.

Significantly downgrading our FRP and shifting Embiid at his lowest possible value for a 3&D prospect and some roleplayers?

The window to move Embiid and/or George should be starting next summer at the very earliest, unless you're getting back something irresistible.

I expect them to both rehab their value next season, even if marginally as we're making the playoffs + they'd have a year fewer on their deals.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#703 » by 76ciology » Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:57 pm

Stanford wrote:I guess I'm the only idiot left who thinks PG can provide positive production to the Sixers.


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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#704 » by the_process » Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:19 pm

stormi wrote:
the_process wrote:HOU gets Oubre and 3
PHI gets Jabari, Barrett, Poeltl, and 9
TOR gets Embiid and 10


Don't see the incentive.

Significantly downgrading our FRP and shifting Embiid at his lowest possible value for a 3&D prospect and some roleplayers?

The window to move Embiid and/or George should be starting next summer at the very earliest, unless you're getting back something irresistible.

I expect them to both rehab their value next season, even if marginally as we're making the playoffs + they'd have a year fewer on their deals.


I don't expect Embiid plays very much, if at all. But we'll see I suppose.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#705 » by Arsenal » Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:24 pm

Bleeding value to get off Embiid and/or PG is a non-starter. Like others have said, let them rehab their value this upcoming season, then pump and dump. it would cost way too much to get off them now.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#706 » by PhillyFan11 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:48 pm

It’s pretty adorable that some of you think Embiid and/or PG are going to increase their value going forward. Hopefully Santa and the Tooth Fairy leave you guys good presents.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#707 » by Arsenal » Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:51 pm

PhillyFan11 wrote:It’s pretty adorable that some of you think Embiid and/or PG are going to increase their value going forward. Hopefully Santa and the Tooth Fairy leave you guys good presents.


It's pretty adorable that you think their value isn't in the toilet i.e. ROCK BOTTOM already. You're the one delusionally hoping for presents by trading these guys.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#708 » by PhillyFan11 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 7:46 pm

Arsenal wrote:
PhillyFan11 wrote:It’s pretty adorable that some of you think Embiid and/or PG are going to increase their value going forward. Hopefully Santa and the Tooth Fairy leave you guys good presents.


It's pretty adorable that you think their value isn't in the toilet i.e. ROCK BOTTOM already. You're the one delusionally hoping for presents by trading these guys.


Huh? When did I say either were tradeable for value now? I think the exact opposite and we are pretty much screwed to be honest. If you want to cross your fingers and wish for a miracle good for you, but I’ll choose to not live in that alternative universe.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#709 » by mjkvol » Wed Jun 18, 2025 9:40 pm

PhillyFan11 wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
PhillyFan11 wrote:It’s pretty adorable that some of you think Embiid and/or PG are going to increase their value going forward. Hopefully Santa and the Tooth Fairy leave you guys good presents.


It's pretty adorable that you think their value isn't in the toilet i.e. ROCK BOTTOM already. You're the one delusionally hoping for presents by trading these guys.


Huh? When did I say either were tradeable for value now? I think the exact opposite and we are pretty much screwed to be honest. If you want to cross your fingers and wish for a miracle good for you, but I’ll choose to not live in that alternative universe.


We're only 'screwed' if you're counting on being a serious contender before probably '27-'28 at the very earliest. If Morey is smart, he is using the next couple of years to unload aging contracts and accumulating picks and youth. If he is seriously intent on competing sooner, we are in for a looooooong dry spell.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#710 » by PhillyFan11 » Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:17 am

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PhillyFan11 wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
It's pretty adorable that you think their value isn't in the toilet i.e. ROCK BOTTOM already. You're the one delusionally hoping for presents by trading these guys.


Huh? When did I say either were tradeable for value now? I think the exact opposite and we are pretty much screwed to be honest. If you want to cross your fingers and wish for a miracle good for you, but I’ll choose to not live in that alternative universe.


We're only 'screwed' if you're counting on being a serious contender before probably '27-'28 at the very earliest. If Morey is smart, he is using the next couple of years to unload aging contracts and accumulating picks and youth. If he is seriously intent on competing sooner, we are in for a looooooong dry spell.


Yes, short term “screwed”. Hit on #3 to add to Maxey & McCain and there’s for sure hope. Just feels like a kick to the balls to say that for a team that should have had a legit championship window.

My biggest fear is I have 0 faith in our current GM to make smart sensible moves to build for future sustainable success
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#711 » by zaz102 » Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:23 am

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mjkvol wrote:
PhillyFan11 wrote:
Huh? When did I say either were tradeable for value now? I think the exact opposite and we are pretty much screwed to be honest. If you want to cross your fingers and wish for a miracle good for you, but I’ll choose to not live in that alternative universe.


We're only 'screwed' if you're counting on being a serious contender before probably '27-'28 at the very earliest. If Morey is smart, he is using the next couple of years to unload aging contracts and accumulating picks and youth. If he is seriously intent on competing sooner, we are in for a looooooong dry spell.


Yes, short term “screwed”. Hit on #3 to add to Maxey & McCain and there’s for sure hope. Just feels like a kick to the balls to say that for a team that should have had a legit championship window.

My biggest fear is I have 0 faith in our current GM to make smart sensible moves to build for future sustainable success
Morey did a good job of pivoting from McGrady/Yao era and he did a good job pivoting from the Horford/Josh Richardson disaster. We'll see of he can do it again.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#712 » by PhillyFan11 » Thu Jun 19, 2025 2:16 am

If there’s any hope of dumping PG maybe it’s the Lakers if they have to give up very little?

Sixers out: #3, PG, Drummond, Gordon
Sixers in: #5, #21, Rui, DFS, Clarkson, Kleber

Jazz out: #5, #21, Kessler, Clarkson
Jazz in: #3, Knecht, Vincent, Gordon

Lakers out: Rui, DFS, Vincent, Kleber, Knecht
Lakers in: PG, Kessler, Drummond
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#713 » by stormi » Thu Jun 19, 2025 5:50 am

PhillyFan11 wrote:It’s pretty adorable that some of you think Embiid and/or PG are going to increase their value going forward. Hopefully Santa and the Tooth Fairy leave you guys good presents.


However you feel about the situation, it's just poor process to trade your 'star' players at their absolute crater value wise. You risk everything for very little actual reward.

There's nothing about these hypothetical packages that we couldn't get next summer as well.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#714 » by sammorey » Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:03 am

I have a feeling we are going to trade the pick and go for a win now path, Daryl might not think he has 2-3 years to make things work. He is incentivized to go for it, especially in a weak East.

Ace cancelling his workout looks like he is being a diva, and he very well might be, but I think it's more that his agent has got wind that either the Sixers are locked in on Edgecombe if they can't find enough value in a trade and doesn't want his client to pointlessly meet with the team that has no interest in taking him. Sixers want to do it to increase any leverage they might have in a trade.

What the Sixers do will tell you a lot about whether Daryl thinks Embiid has anything left in the tank. If they stay at 3 and take Edgecombe, I think Daryl knows this team has no shot at a title.

Who Says No?

Rockets Get: Suns 2031 1st (from Jazz), Eric Gordon
Sixers Get: #5 pick (Kon Knueppel), Tari Eason, Cam Whitmore
Jazz Get: #3 Pick, Andre Drummond
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#715 » by Foshan » Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:09 am

Would you do LAC 28 unprotected (+maybe a second) for Hou#10?

Take the pick you want at 3 (VJ/ACE) plus grab another guy that can grow while trying to win (CMB/Essengue)

Maxey/Grimes/Pg/Embiid try to anchor a winning run
With
McCain/VJ/Edwards/Essengue/Bona playing big reserve minutes through the regular season.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#716 » by 76ciology » Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:48 am

sammorey wrote:I have a feeling we are going to trade the pick and go for a win now path, Daryl might not think he has 2-3 years to make things work. He is incentivized to go for it, especially in a weak East.

Ace cancelling his workout looks like he is being a diva, and he very well might be, but I think it's more that his agent has got wind that either the Sixers are locked in on Edgecombe if they can't find enough value in a trade and doesn't want his client to pointlessly meet with the team that has no interest in taking him. Sixers want to do it to increase any leverage they might have in a trade.

What the Sixers do will tell you a lot about whether Daryl thinks Embiid has anything left in the tank. If they stay at 3 and take Edgecombe, I think Daryl knows this team has no shot at a title.

Who Says No?

Rockets Get: Suns 2031 1st (from Jazz), Eric Gordon
Sixers Get: #5 pick (Kon Knueppel), Tari Eason, Cam Whitmore
Jazz Get: #3 Pick, Andre Drummond


Rockets do this because?
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#717 » by ProcessDoctor » Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:58 am

#3/Embiid for LaMelo/M. Williams

LaMelo/McCain/Butler
Maxey/Grimes/Gordon
Oubre/Edwards/Council
George/(TMLE)/(#35)
M. Willliams/Bona/Drummond
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Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Grimes/Edgecombe/Gordon
Oubre/Edwards
George/Watford/Barlow
Embiid/Bona/Drummond/Broome
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#718 » by the_process » Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:35 pm

stormi wrote:
PhillyFan11 wrote:It’s pretty adorable that some of you think Embiid and/or PG are going to increase their value going forward. Hopefully Santa and the Tooth Fairy leave you guys good presents.


However you feel about the situation, it's just poor process to trade your 'star' players at their absolute crater value wise. You risk everything for very little actual reward.

There's nothing about these hypothetical packages that we couldn't get next summer as well.


On this, we disagree. Assuming status quo, next summer everyone is asking for 1sts (plural) to take those albatrosses on.

I do think PG should be somewhat better, though, so I would be in less of a rush to move him. The risk is if the team goes to poop, PG could gonna check out again.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#719 » by the_process » Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:44 pm

Foshan wrote:Would you do LAC 28 unprotected (+maybe a second) for Hou#10?

Take the pick you want at 3 (VJ/ACE) plus grab another guy that can grow while trying to win (CMB/Essengue)

Maxey/Grimes/Pg/Embiid try to anchor a winning run
With
McCain/VJ/Edwards/Essengue/Bona playing big reserve minutes through the regular season.


Wonder if BKN might take the Clipper pick for 8? They have 4 picks in this draft already.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#720 » by the_process » Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:48 pm

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sammorey wrote:I have a feeling we are going to trade the pick and go for a win now path, Daryl might not think he has 2-3 years to make things work. He is incentivized to go for it, especially in a weak East.

Ace cancelling his workout looks like he is being a diva, and he very well might be, but I think it's more that his agent has got wind that either the Sixers are locked in on Edgecombe if they can't find enough value in a trade and doesn't want his client to pointlessly meet with the team that has no interest in taking him. Sixers want to do it to increase any leverage they might have in a trade.

What the Sixers do will tell you a lot about whether Daryl thinks Embiid has anything left in the tank. If they stay at 3 and take Edgecombe, I think Daryl knows this team has no shot at a title.

Who Says No?

Rockets Get: Suns 2031 1st (from Jazz), Eric Gordon
Sixers Get: #5 pick (Kon Knueppel), Tari Eason, Cam Whitmore
Jazz Get: #3 Pick, Andre Drummond


Rockets do this because?


I don't love this for the Jazz, either.

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