Stein/Fischer: Toronto willing to deal RJ Barrett, IQ, Poeltl for Significant Upgrades // #9 Available

[GIZMO]

do your due diligence, and get back to Ed, and say

1) We explore the market for Giannis but he's not available
2) We explore the market for Kevin Durant, but they didn't like our package, and wanted their Rocket picks back
3) we explore other trade options and that is it

or to see what's out there and see if you can get in on it for cheap and to better the roster. But I guess it's easier to say that Masai is cooked, so please go on.

Masai has had 6 really bad years after an all-time elite 9 year GM run spanning the Nuggets and Raptors. It is what it is.

the raptors had significantly worse years without Masai. He is the president and he will make some bad calls over the years, but overall he brought the Raptors some very memorable years.

[SFour]

Why the team that got its one championship from trading for a true star, is afraid of losing picks and mid players for a true stars is baffling. We need less prospects we have to overpay just to find out they were never that good - and do all we can to lock up true talent that can help you win.

Yes Kawhi left after one year. But yes Spurs deciding to trade Kawhi to us, was the best decision Masai ever made and it’s not close.

The Kawhi trade was a robbery....the equivalent would be trading RJ+Dick+9th pick for a 27 year old KD + Grayson Allen......they key being that KD is 27 and not 37.

[WuTang_CMB]

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[TheGeneral99]

Why the team that got its one championship from trading for a true star, is afraid of losing picks and mid players for a true stars is baffling. We need less prospects we have to overpay just to find out they were never that good - and do all we can to lock up true talent that can help you win.

Yes Kawhi left after one year. But yes Spurs deciding to trade Kawhi to us, was the best decision Masai ever made and it’s not close.

The Kawhi trade was a robbery....the equivalent would be trading RJ+Dick+9th pick for a 27 year old KD + Grayson Allen......they key being that KD is 27 and not 37.

It wasn't a huge robbery considering that Kawhi had 1 year left on his deal and also had injury risk. And obviously some luck was involved...if it didn't go our way in game 7 against Philly, most fans would have looked at the trade as a disaster, trading our star, depth and draft capital for a chance to win. It paid off and was a fantastic trade, but a risk nonetheless.

Demar's value was significantly higher than RJ's was right now and Poeltl was also seen as a very good young center, much better than Dick.

[LoveMyRaps]

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Shut that bum Sidery up real quick.

[ItsDanger]

Why the team that got its one championship from trading for a true star, is afraid of losing picks and mid players for a true stars is baffling. We need less prospects we have to overpay just to find out they were never that good - and do all we can to lock up true talent that can help you win.

Yes Kawhi left after one year. But yes Spurs deciding to trade Kawhi to us, was the best decision Masai ever made and it’s not close.

Why? The 2018 roster had a lot of depth at each position. The situations aren't the same at all.

[MainEvent]

Why the team that got its one championship from trading for a true star, is afraid of losing picks and mid players for a true stars is baffling. We need less prospects we have to overpay just to find out they were never that good - and do all we can to lock up true talent that can help you win.

Yes Kawhi left after one year. But yes Spurs deciding to trade Kawhi to us, was the best decision Masai ever made and it’s not close.

because those teams had 50+ wins 3 years straight and 49,48 the 2 years prior. We got to the eastern finals and semis and kept losing, was clear Demar/JV weren't going to get us a championship so they took a risk to push us over the hump

our current team hasn't done shiiit.. great lets add KD for 1 year to an unproven 30 win team

[SFour]

Why the team that got its one championship from trading for a true star, is afraid of losing picks and mid players for a true stars is baffling. We need less prospects we have to overpay just to find out they were never that good - and do all we can to lock up true talent that can help you win.

Yes Kawhi left after one year. But yes Spurs deciding to trade Kawhi to us, was the best decision Masai ever made and it’s not close.

The Kawhi trade was a robbery....the equivalent would be trading RJ+Dick+9th pick for a 27 year old KD + Grayson Allen......they key being that KD is 27 and not 37.

It wasn't a huge robbery considering that Kawhi had 1 year left on his deal and also had injury risk. And obviously some luck was involved...if it didn't go our way in game 7 against Philly, most fans would have looked at the trade as a disaster, trading our star, depth and draft capital for a chance to win. It paid off and was a fantastic trade, but a risk nonetheless.

Demar's value was significantly higher than RJ's was right now and Poeltl was also seen as a very good young center, much better than Dick.

most people were throwing Siakam and OG into the Kawhi trade....so even without the power of hindsight, not having to include either of those 2 players was big.

[TheGeneral99]

The Kawhi trade was a robbery....the equivalent would be trading RJ+Dick+9th pick for a 27 year old KD + Grayson Allen......they key being that KD is 27 and not 37.

It wasn't a huge robbery considering that Kawhi had 1 year left on his deal and also had injury risk. And obviously some luck was involved...if it didn't go our way in game 7 against Philly, most fans would have looked at the trade as a disaster, trading our star, depth and draft capital for a chance to win. It paid off and was a fantastic trade, but a risk nonetheless.

Demar's value was significantly higher than RJ's was right now and Poeltl was also seen as a very good young center, much better than Dick.

most people were throwing Siakam and OG into the Kawhi trade....so even without the power of hindsight, not having to include either of those 2 players was big.

Yes, in hindsight it was massive, but at the time Poeltl was regarded in a similar tier.

It really helped that we had the 2nd best record in the league in 2018, which pumped up Demar and Jakob's trade value immensely.

[Shakril]

do your due diligence, and get back to Ed, and say

1) We explore the market for Giannis but he's not available
2) We explore the market for Kevin Durant, but they didn't like our package, and wanted their Rocket picks back
3) we explore other trade options and that is it

or to see what's out there and see if you can get in on it for cheap and to better the roster. But I guess it's easier to say that Masai is cooked, so please go on.

Masai has had 6 really bad years after an all-time elite 9 year GM run spanning the Nuggets and Raptors. It is what it is.

???

You guys need to step down from your fandom for a few years. The 2013-2019 rund has skewed your perceptive about what bad is.

[Dalek]

Collecting a few trade rumors, it appears we have interest in both Domantas Sabonis and Malik Monk. Their new GM is Scott Perry who was the Knicks' GM from 2017-2023 drafting both RJ and IQ in his time so he might see a future with those two. Overall, in NY he made a few smart draft moves, but overall was key in getting NY picks that later paved the way for this recent success. Picks and young players will be a focus for the Kings.

Toronto has been rumored to have interest in Monk, plus Sabonis is a perfect fit for the Toronto offense.

Kings send out:
Sabonis
Monk
Valancuinas
Trey Lyles

Raps send out:
RJ
IQ
Poeltl
SRP 2025
FRP 2027
FRP 2029

Raptors retain pick 9 and will need to find a starter-level PG, maybe draft Kasparas Jakucionas a Lithuanian star PG who gets pairs with Sabonis and JV. Kings will need to move one of Lavine or Derozan in future moves to get a PF, but they get good return for Sabonis for now.

Sabonis
Barnes
Ingram
Monk
Jakucionas

Shead
Dick
Walter
Battle/Boucher
JV/Mogbo

[WuTang_CMB]

[theonlyeastcoastrapsfan]

Why the team that got its one championship from trading for a true star, is afraid of losing picks and mid players for a true stars is baffling. We need less prospects we have to overpay just to find out they were never that good - and do all we can to lock up true talent that can help you win.

Yes Kawhi left after one year. But yes Spurs deciding to trade Kawhi to us, was the best decision Masai ever made and it’s not close.

because those teams had 50+ wins 3 years straight and 49,48 the 2 years prior. We got to the eastern finals and semis and kept losing, was clear Demar/JV weren't going to get us a championship so they took a risk to push us over the hump

our current team hasn't done shiiit.. great lets add KD for 1 year to an unproven 30 win team

Teams can turn around pretty quickly, on the current roster I'm not sure who's actually worth losing sleep over losing, so aquiring some really good players coaches and trying to compete, I'm all for it. This org does not have the stomach to rebuild.

[Clutch0z24]

If we get Durant everyone needs to expect the 9th pick is gone as well....The whole reason we are in the trade talks for KD to begin with is because we have an entciing 9th pick to offer....Yak/RJ or IQ straight up is not that enticing alone since they are both expiring soon and IQ has not played up to his big contract he has so far....The 9th pick is what makes us the threat for Suns to actually accept the deal....

Not saying thats a good move for us just saying the 9th pick is prolly what makes the deal from the Suns POV worth accepting....Because they get good players they want in the positions they could use while also getting a high draft pick they could either flip the pick for more upgrades or draft someone if they really like someone at 9...

[James_Raptors]

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This kind of goes for any team that’s not on the preferred list. Then the teams on the preferred list will continue to try and get him without giving up what they believe is too much. And around and around we go.

And then they settle for RJ, #9 and a copy of the Rob Ford crack smoking video.

cough...
sniff...
wipes nose...
Got any more of them.... Rob Ford Smoking Crack, videos?

[Scase]

For the record, this Suns fan thinks you guys have the best offer-by far and hopes the deal gets done foe Durant.

Obviously we aren't getting all of RJ/Peotl/IQ, but even 2 of them plus the pick is world's better than I've seen.

Hopefully the deal gets announced sometime b4 the weekend

I dont think any raps fan wants to give up that pick, so hopefully it doesnt get announced lol

Fair. I'd even do a swap to make the deal happen TBH. We have the #29 pick this year, Id give that up personally to move up to #9. Along with KD for Poetl and 1 of the other 2

Anything beyond RJ/IQ + jak is too much IMO.

[Raptors Realtor]

If we get Durant everyone needs to expect the 9th pick is gone as well....The whole reason we are in the trade talks for KD to begin with is because we have an entciing 9th pick to offer....Yak/RJ or IQ straight up is not that enticing alone since they are both expiring soon and IQ has not played up to his big contract he has so far....The 9th pick is what makes us the threat for Suns to actually accept the deal....

Not saying thats a good move for us just saying the 9th pick is prolly what makes the deal from the Suns POV worth accepting....Because they get good players they want in the positions they could use while also getting a high draft pick they could either flip the pick for more upgrades or draft someone if they really like someone at 9...

It's way too early to determine whether Quickley has lived up to his contract... In the first year of his deal, he played a third of the season while being injured on/off all season, while also playing with a starting lineup that was also riddled with other injuries all season.

[sbsat]

Collecting a few trade rumors, it appears we have interest in both Domantas Sabonis and Malik Monk. Their new GM is Scott Perry who was the Knicks' GM from 2017-2023 drafting both RJ and IQ in his time so he might see a future with those two. Overall, in NY he made a few smart draft moves, but overall was key in getting NY picks that later paved the way for this recent success. Picks and young players will be a focus for the Kings.

Toronto has been rumored to have interest in Monk, plus Sabonis is a perfect fit for the Toronto offense.

Kings send out:
Sabonis
Monk
Valancuinas
Trey Lyles

Raps send out:
RJ
IQ
Poeltl
SRP 2025
FRP 2027
FRP 2029

Raptors retain pick 9 and will need to find a starter-level PG, maybe draft Kasparas Jakucionas a Lithuanian star PG who gets pairs with Sabonis and JV. Kings will need to move one of Lavine or Derozan in future moves to get a PF, but they get good return for Sabonis for now.

Sabonis
Barnes
Ingram
Monk
Jakucionas

Shead
Dick
Walter
Battle/Boucher
JV/Mogbo

YUCK

[CazOnReal]

Trading for Sabonis would be the worst decision Masai has ever made, full stop.

[Clutch0z24]

If we get Durant everyone needs to expect the 9th pick is gone as well....The whole reason we are in the trade talks for KD to begin with is because we have an entciing 9th pick to offer....Yak/RJ or IQ straight up is not that enticing alone since they are both expiring soon and IQ has not played up to his big contract he has so far....The 9th pick is what makes us the threat for Suns to actually accept the deal....

Not saying thats a good move for us just saying the 9th pick is prolly what makes the deal from the Suns POV worth accepting....Because they get good players they want in the positions they could use while also getting a high draft pick they could either flip the pick for more upgrades or draft someone if they really like someone at 9...

It's way too early to determine whether Quickley has lived up to his contract... In the first year of his deal, he played a third of the season while being injured on/off all season, while also playing with a starting lineup that was also riddled with other injuries all season.

Yeah but just going off what other teams prolly think of IQ....Just like many say IQs value is at a low atm ....The reason it is at a low is because he got a big contract and had a injured/down season....If you are a team trading for him that will be in the back of your head.....Point is i think the reason we are even a serious threat to get KD from the Suns is because 1. We have a player Suns can use in Yak, And 2. We have the 9th pick.