Fake Trade Thread #7

[JMAC3]

2. 4th for 7th, 23rd and (Hawkins or Alvarado).

Would the intent here be to take the salary into our MLE?

The salaries would either be 4.5 or 4.7 million, so marginal you could find a lot of options. For one we could pick up Jeffries option and send him as part of the deal and that is legal.

[Skybox]

Someone threw this up on the ORL board, what do you guys think?
(If Mosely can give Grant a character reference from DAL days, I'd even add a srp or two)

Grant Williams
Mark Williams
Josh Green

For

Jett Howard
Goga Bitazde
Jonathan Isaac

[MasterIchiro]

Someone threw this up on the ORL board, what do you guys think?
(If Mosely can give Grant a character reference from DAL days, I'd even add a srp or two)

Grant Williams
Mark Williams
Josh Green

For

Jett Howard
Goga Bitazde
Jonathan Isaac

Not a chance Mark Williams goes for anything less than an overpay. If he were some ticking time bomb of damaged goods, we would've shelved him after the Lakers flunked his physical (thus reclaiming their trade assets). Mark looked spry and quicker as the season progressed.

We don't want your junk.

[MasterIchiro]

Question:

Can teams trade salary into the MLE on draft night?

When does that space offcially open for incoming salaries?

[Skybox]

Someone threw this up on the ORL board, what do you guys think?
(If Mosely can give Grant a character reference from DAL days, I'd even add a srp or two)

Grant Williams
Mark Williams
Josh Green

For

Jett Howard
Goga Bitazde
Jonathan Isaac

Not a chance Mark Williams goes for anything less than an overpay. If he were some ticking time bomb of damaged goods, we would've shelved him after the Lakers flunked his physical (thus reclaiming their trade assets). Mark looked spry and quicker as the season progressed.

We don't want your junk.

Didn't mean to insult you with my offer for your healthy All-Stars

[MasterIchiro]

Someone threw this up on the ORL board, what do you guys think?
(If Mosely can give Grant a character reference from DAL days, I'd even add a srp or two)

Grant Williams
Mark Williams
Josh Green

For

Jett Howard
Goga Bitazde
Jonathan Isaac

Not a chance Mark Williams goes for anything less than an overpay. If he were some ticking time bomb of damaged goods, we would've shelved him after the Lakers flunked his physical (thus reclaiming their trade assets). Mark looked spry and quicker as the season progressed.

We don't want your junk.

Didn't mean to insult you with my offer for your healthy All-Stars

If you're pricing him at a discount due to risk of injury we are not selling him for less than the Lakers return. Their tactics didn't change our demands.

[Skybox]

Not a chance Mark Williams goes for anything less than an overpay. If he were some ticking time bomb of damaged goods, we would've shelved him after the Lakers flunked his physical (thus reclaiming their trade assets). Mark looked spry and quicker as the season progressed.

We don't want your junk.

Didn't mean to insult you with my offer for your healthy All-Stars

If you're pricing him at a discount due to risk of injury we are not selling him for less than the Lakers return. Their tactics didn't change our demands.

Okay...good luck with that. I'm sure his MRIs are pristine.

[MasterIchiro]

Didn't mean to insult you with my offer for your healthy All-Stars

If you're pricing him at a discount due to risk of injury we are not selling him for less than the Lakers return. Their tactics didn't change our demands.

Okay...good luck with that. I'm sure his MRIs are pristine.

Yeah, we'd jeopardize his health and future despite his tendons and ligaments all hanging by a thread. Just to trick teams out of bidding for a failed physical discount.

[Liver_Pooty]

Didn't mean to insult you with my offer for your healthy All-Stars

If you're pricing him at a discount due to risk of injury we are not selling him for less than the Lakers return. Their tactics didn't change our demands.

Okay...good luck with that. I'm sure his MRIs are pristine.

Any particular reason you’re coming on here acting weird as hell?

[fatlever]

Didn't mean to insult you with my offer for your healthy All-Stars

If you're pricing him at a discount due to risk of injury we are not selling him for less than the Lakers return. Their tactics didn't change our demands.

Okay...good luck with that. I'm sure his MRIs are pristine.

dont get snarky if we dont like your proposal. unnecessary

[JMAC3]

Someone threw this up on the ORL board, what do you guys think?
(If Mosely can give Grant a character reference from DAL days, I'd even add a srp or two)

Grant Williams
Mark Williams
Josh Green

For

Jett Howard
Goga Bitazde
Jonathan Isaac

Not a chance Mark Williams goes for anything less than an overpay. If he were some ticking time bomb of damaged goods, we would've shelved him after the Lakers flunked his physical (thus reclaiming their trade assets). Mark looked spry and quicker as the season progressed.

We don't want your junk.

Didn't mean to insult you with my offer for your healthy All-Stars

I mean Goga is solid, but Howard is completely worthless.
Issac is really overpaid, even though his contract isn't fully guaranteed

I think Mark Williams is just the best player in the deal, so for that reason I would probably decline.
but it would likely be a better cap situation for us in 2026, so I don't think it is an awful proposal.

[HornetJail]

Someone threw this up on the ORL board, what do you guys think?
(If Mosely can give Grant a character reference from DAL days, I'd even add a srp or two)

Grant Williams
Mark Williams
Josh Green

For

Jett Howard
Goga Bitazde
Jonathan Isaac

this would be closer without Mark Williams lol, nobody wants these dudes

[fatlever]

goga is nice
But we are essentially trading two starters (Calling grain a starter is semantics but he did start) and a top veteran who also happens to be our number one voice in the locker room. For a slightly worse center. Another combo guard when we already have Nick smith, tre mann, Possibly end up with another one after the draft. And then you get the giant? Jonathan Isaac on a team that has been plagued by injuries for the past three years you're going to add possibly the most injury prone player in the league. That's a super easy no for me.

[Skybox]

If you're pricing him at a discount due to risk of injury we are not selling him for less than the Lakers return. Their tactics didn't change our demands.

Okay...good luck with that. I'm sure his MRIs are pristine.

dont get snarky if we dont like your proposal. unnecessary

go back a few posts...I came in here with a friendly offer that was called junk...I just pointed out the hypocrisy

Last time I heard Grant Williams' name, he was booted out of DAL, I honestly forgot he was in CHA. Is Josh Green really any better than Jett Howard might be? (at worst he's an expiring-and he's not getting a shot in ORL). Mark Williams was traded for very little (due to his injury history) and the trade was still rescinded due to his injury history. Am I really out of line MOD....watching Lamelo act a fool has you guys all on edge.

[SWedd523]

if all of those guys are trash then why are you trying to trade for them

[JustBuzzin]

This a culture trade

Bridges/Green for Paul George

Bridges may be a better player, but PG brings a higher basketball IQ and a respected voice to the locker room. If he's healthy he's still a impact player. Yes taking on his contract would be a gamble, but this team needs a new direction. We need vets who can still play, but also lead the young guys. I don't think Miles will ever be that guy.

[JMAC3]

Okay...good luck with that. I'm sure his MRIs are pristine.

dont get snarky if we dont like your proposal. unnecessary

go back a few posts...I came in here with a friendly offer that was called junk...I just pointed out the hypocrisy

Last time I heard Grant Williams' name, he was booted out of DAL, I honestly forgot he was in CHA. Is Josh Green really any better than Jett Howard might be? (at worst he's an expiring-and he's not getting a shot in ORL). Mark Williams was traded for very little (due to his injury history) and the trade was still rescinded due to his injury history. Am I really out of line MOD....watching Lamelo act a fool has you guys all on edge.

I don't think you can say Mark Williams was traded for very little (1st, 1st swap, Knecht) and then offer not even half of that value and expect it to go well though.

[Skybox]

dont get snarky if we dont like your proposal. unnecessary

go back a few posts...I came in here with a friendly offer that was called junk...I just pointed out the hypocrisy

Last time I heard Grant Williams' name, he was booted out of DAL, I honestly forgot he was in CHA. Is Josh Green really any better than Jett Howard might be? (at worst he's an expiring-and he's not getting a shot in ORL). Mark Williams was traded for very little (due to his injury history) and the trade was still rescinded due to his injury history. Am I really out of line MOD....watching Lamelo act a fool has you guys all on edge.

I don't think you can say Mark Williams was traded for very little (1st, 1st swap, Knecht) and then offer not even half of that value and expect it to go well though.

That's a reasonable response to an offer you didn't like...and LAL did back out, allegedly, right? because they allegedly decided they didn't like THAT deal...and there was, apparently, enough in the medicals to pull out.

I walked in thinking Grant was dead weight after his debacle in DAL, Green was okay but insignificant, and I'd be willing to take a shot at Paolo's buddy, "damaged" Williams and CHA might take a shot at "damaged" Isaac.

Isaac, at his best, even in limited minutes, is a game changer defensively. Nobody covers perimeter to rim like him.
Howard is a sharpshooter that can't get any run in ORL reportedly because of his defense (which is Coach Mosely's #1) and he's not guaranteed beyond next year - a reasonable swing for a team working their way up from the bottom.
Goga is solid, reliable, young and inexpensive but ORL also has Moe Wagner off the bench - so it's tough to pay so much for 2 backup C's

Not sure what triggered your guys...maybe Carolina moonshine or just frustration.

[JMAC3]

go back a few posts...I came in here with a friendly offer that was called junk...I just pointed out the hypocrisy

Last time I heard Grant Williams' name, he was booted out of DAL, I honestly forgot he was in CHA. Is Josh Green really any better than Jett Howard might be? (at worst he's an expiring-and he's not getting a shot in ORL). Mark Williams was traded for very little (due to his injury history) and the trade was still rescinded due to his injury history. Am I really out of line MOD....watching Lamelo act a fool has you guys all on edge.

I don't think you can say Mark Williams was traded for very little (1st, 1st swap, Knecht) and then offer not even half of that value and expect it to go well though.

That's a reasonable response to an offer you didn't like...and LAL did back out, allegedly, right? because they allegedly decided they didn't like THAT deal...and there was, apparently, enough in the medicals to pull out.

I walked in thinking Grant was dead weight after his debacle in DAL, Green was okay but insignificant, and I'd be willing to take a shot at Paolo's buddy, "damaged" Williams and CHA might take a shot at "damaged" Isaac.

Isaac, at his best, even in limited minutes, is a game changer defensively. Nobody covers perimeter to rim like him.
Howard is a sharpshooter that can't get any run in ORL reportedly because of his defense (which is Coach Mosely's #1) and he's not guaranteed beyond next year - a reasonable swing for a team working their way up from the bottom.
Goga is solid, reliable, young and inexpensive but ORL also has Moe Wagner off the bench - so it's tough to pay so much for 2 backup C's

Not sure what triggered your guys...maybe Carolina moonshine or just frustration.

Issac is roughly the same value as Green, both guys are usable but paid like starters and aren't worth it.

Mark is better than Goga. Although Goga has 1 more year of control. Still favor Mark because his upside.

Howard is a sharpshooter 29% on 211 career attempts? That is where you lose me- he is likely a guy that will be out of the league very soon.
Grant Williams is a solid bench guy- has been his whole career, maybe slightly overpaid but not enough to dump him. He makes MLE money for a guy that has been at worst a 6th or 7th man for the last 5 year.

[Bassman]

This a culture trade

Bridges/Green for Paul George

Bridges may be a better player, but PG brings a higher basketball IQ and a respected voice to the locker room. If he's healthy he's still a impact player. Yes taking on his contract would be a gamble, but this team needs a new direction. We need vets who can still play, but also lead the young guys. I don't think Miles will ever be that guy.

Respectfully no. I don’t want to bring any more old vets in and expect them to somehow change our kiddies into men. This ain’t the Marines. If the Hornets want to change the culture start with trading Melo. He should garner a pretty good return, and I’d rather go for it now than wait for him to suddenly become a leader, a dedicated workout warrior, a prolific iron man, when he’s shown none of that in all his years here. Everything he continues to illustrate point toward the same old same old.

Let’s do it in conjunction with or prior to this draft, so we can leverage a pick now to add to our #4, plus get a quality starter and more picks. Then get our future point guard and move forward.