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Post#21 » by Kalamazoo317 » Mon Jun 2, 2025 8:46 pm

Its social media team is pretty much the only part of Duolingo that's not AI these days. That brand is nosediving straight into the garbage.
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Post#22 » by ducler » Wed Jun 4, 2025 2:13 pm

Maybe for the joke a team will draft both Fears and Coward...
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Post#23 » by theBigLip » Wed Jun 4, 2025 3:46 pm

ducler wrote:Maybe for the joke a team will draft both Fears and Coward...


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Post#24 » by whitehops » Tue Jun 17, 2025 2:45 pm

MrBigShot wrote:We drafted Mehmet Okur at 38, Bruce Brown at 42, Dinwiddie at 38, and Middleton at 39. Obviously, for each of those there were another 5-6 second rounders that flopped, but there are hidden gems in every draft and overall basketball talent globally is as high as it's ever been.


the top half of the second round can be a great place to find value. a lot of the first round picks are teams swinging for the fences, taking the youngest, toolsiest prospects and hoping they develop into lead playmakers a few years. the players left over are usually seniors who are more likely to contribute right away as role players or draft and stash guys (jokic probably being the best example). stings a little bit that jokic went 3 picks after we drafted dinwiddie but it is what it is. in that draft there were 10 first round players that have played 10+ years in the league and there were 6 second round players to do that.
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Post#25 » by whitehops » Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:00 pm

LaSheed wrote:Sweet. Pistons working out Chaz Lanier. A name I'm most certainly interested in at #37 if he's there.


elite shooter in college, can get his shot off in many different ways. some ability 1-1 but if we can't bring malik beasley back he would be a great cheap way of filling that role. having someone we can run off-ball sets for to mix in with cade's pick and roll is huge.
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Re: 2025 Draft 

Post#26 » by Invictus88 » Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:55 pm

whitehops wrote:
LaSheed wrote:Sweet. Pistons working out Chaz Lanier. A name I'm most certainly interested in at #37 if he's there.


elite shooter in college, can get his shot off in many different ways. some ability 1-1 but if we can't bring malik beasley back he would be a great cheap way of filling that role. having someone we can run off-ball sets for to mix in with cade's pick and roll is huge.


I don't think it's at all realistic to expect a #37 pick of any pedigree to be able to step in and be a suitable fill-in for a guy who just made the 2nd most 3s in the league the previous year.

Our success as a team is too dependent on the spacing that the vets provided last year.

Regardless of who we draft we either need to resign beasley or find an established vet to take on that role.
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Post#27 » by whitehops » Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:43 pm

Invictus88 wrote:I don't think it's at all realistic to expect a #37 pick of any pedigree to be able to step in and be a suitable fill-in for a guy who just made the 2nd most 3s in the league the previous year.

Our success as a team is too dependent on the spacing that the vets provided last year.

Regardless of who we draft we either need to resign beasley or find an established vet to take on that role.


totally agree, i meant more about being able to fill that role where we can run sets to get him movement shots, even if he doesn't do it at the level beasley did. the logistics of keeping both THJ and beasley (or replacing them) are tough so it would be an alternative.

lanier also played 5 years in college and is 23 (turning 24 in december) so he's about as close to a veteran as we can draft.
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Post#28 » by Invictus88 » Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:13 pm

whitehops wrote:
Invictus88 wrote:I don't think it's at all realistic to expect a #37 pick of any pedigree to be able to step in and be a suitable fill-in for a guy who just made the 2nd most 3s in the league the previous year.

Our success as a team is too dependent on the spacing that the vets provided last year.

Regardless of who we draft we either need to resign beasley or find an established vet to take on that role.


totally agree, i meant more about being able to fill that role where we can run sets to get him movement shots, even if he doesn't do it at the level beasley did. the logistics of keeping both THJ and beasley (or replacing them) are tough so it would be an alternative.

lanier also played 5 years in college and is 23 (turning 24 in december) so he's about as close to a veteran as we can draft.


I don't think you totally agree. Because if you did you wouldn't then be trying to describe Lanier as an alternative of any form. You're basically expecting a 37 pick to have a ROY-caliber season (no, it won't win him it this coming year) if he is to be considered a fill-in for what Beasley is providing. It's just not realistic.

Signing Beasley is extremely likely for us with the MLE. I'm less concerned about getting THJ back given we are getting Ivey back but we honestly could likely get him back as well. We are going to have to operate above the cap but it's realistic to think that they will.

With all of this said, I have no issue with saying that the kid might turn into Beasley in a few years. Sure. Although with how desperate we currently are for PF depth I'd kind of hope we try another lottery ticket there instead with 37...
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Post#29 » by theBigLip » Yesterday 5:52 pm

Are we going to move up into the first round? Is #37 plus a SRP next year enough to move up into the late first round?

Teams that might not need/want their FRP this year
24 - OKC
28 - Boston
29 - Phoenix
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Post#30 » by joedumars1 » Yesterday 6:08 pm

Invictus88 wrote:
whitehops wrote:
Invictus88 wrote:I don't think it's at all realistic to expect a #37 pick of any pedigree to be able to step in and be a suitable fill-in for a guy who just made the 2nd most 3s in the league the previous year.

Our success as a team is too dependent on the spacing that the vets provided last year.

Regardless of who we draft we either need to resign beasley or find an established vet to take on that role.


totally agree, i meant more about being able to fill that role where we can run sets to get him movement shots, even if he doesn't do it at the level beasley did. the logistics of keeping both THJ and beasley (or replacing them) are tough so it would be an alternative.

lanier also played 5 years in college and is 23 (turning 24 in december) so he's about as close to a veteran as we can draft.


I don't think you totally agree. Because if you did you wouldn't then be trying to describe Lanier as an alternative of any form. You're basically expecting a 37 pick to have a ROY-caliber season (no, it won't win him it this coming year) if he is to be considered a fill-in for what Beasley is providing. It's just not realistic.

Signing Beasley is extremely likely for us with the MLE. I'm less concerned about getting THJ back given we are getting Ivey back but we honestly could likely get him back as well. We are going to have to operate above the cap but it's realistic to think that they will.

With all of this said, I have no issue with saying that the kid might turn into Beasley in a few years. Sure. Although with how desperate we currently are for PF depth I'd kind of hope we try another lottery ticket there instead with 37...

Is Lanier really supposed to be available at that spot?
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Re: 2025 Draft 

Post#31 » by blog_pistons » Yesterday 6:53 pm

In our ranks, a realistic player that I love for the potential he has to help us, maybe not this year but in a couple of them, is Bogoljub Markovic.

PLAYER Bogoljub Markovic
POS PF
HAND LENGTH (inches) 8.25
HAND WIDTH (inches) 9.75
HEIGHT W/O SHOES 6' 10.50''
STANDING REACH 9' 2.00''
WEIGHT 213.2(LBS)
WINGSPA 6' 11.50''

Similar measurements to Danny Wolf, but he's more mobile and has quite similar talent. At least that's my opinion.
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Post#32 » by the_l_train » Yesterday 8:02 pm

theBigLip wrote:Are we going to move up into the first round? Is #37 plus a SRP next year enough to move up into the late first round?

Teams that might not need/want their FRP this year
24 - OKC
28 - Boston
29 - Phoenix


Keep seeing mocks where Flemming, Clayton and Danny Wolf are around this range. Do it, Trajan.
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Post#33 » by GreekAlex » Yesterday 9:04 pm

the_l_train wrote:
theBigLip wrote:Are we going to move up into the first round? Is #37 plus a SRP next year enough to move up into the late first round?

Teams that might not need/want their FRP this year
24 - OKC
28 - Boston
29 - Phoenix


Keep seeing mocks where Flemming, Clayton and Danny Wolf are around this range. Do it, Trajan.


Flemming seems the most interesting to me.

I’ll have to check out some tape on Clayton.

Wolf doesn’t have enough upside for me.
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Post#34 » by the_l_train » Yesterday 10:09 pm

GreekAlex wrote:
the_l_train wrote:
theBigLip wrote:Are we going to move up into the first round? Is #37 plus a SRP next year enough to move up into the late first round?

Teams that might not need/want their FRP this year
24 - OKC
28 - Boston
29 - Phoenix


Keep seeing mocks where Flemming, Clayton and Danny Wolf are around this range. Do it, Trajan.


Flemming seems the most interesting to me.

I’ll have to check out some tape on Clayton.

Wolf doesn’t have enough upside for me.


Clayton a senior and undersized, but he was a gamer in the tournament. Put the team on his back…I think he will translate and could be a real solid/cheap backup PG for years to come. Seemed like a knock down shooter.

Ignore the Cameron Payne player comparison on NBAdraft.net, that’s just insulting.
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Re: 2025 Draft 

Post#35 » by bstein14 » Today 1:13 am

1 week from draft and the only thing that's slightly exciting is if we make any draft day trades... and/or to see what players get moved.

#1 pick and #2 pick are both know. We don't have a first round pick.

The only other thought is, hopefully Minny doesn't end up with the steal of the draft at #17 (our pick) although I think its fairly likely they trade it since the are so high up into the tax and they are certainly in win now mode where mid firsts often aren't ready to come in and be a part of a rotation right away.

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