ESPN theoretical Giannis to Raptors trade

ontnut · Post #21 » by **ontnut** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:35 pm

dkb964 wrote:Toronto Raptors get:

Giannis Antetokounmpo

Milwaukee Bucks get:

Scottie Barnes
Gradey Dick
Ochai Agbaji
2025 first-round pick (No. 9)
2029 first-round pick
2031 first-round pick

That's what I figured a trade would look like, and it's an unequivocal YES. Easiest accept I've ever had to make.

StopitLeo · Post #22 » by **StopitLeo** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:36 pm

Zeno wrote:I don’t understand why the Bucks let us keep our 2027. This is 100% a full draft offer.

Agree. Picks and swaps. Still a no-brainer. It's not easy to acquire MVP level player and your top of the roster talent dictates how far you can go.

ontnut · Post #23 » by **ontnut** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:38 pm

Mattatron wrote:I don't wanna pair Giannis with RJ, IQ, Ingram and Poeltl. There would be still too much work to do to build a competitive roster. Shooting is ass.

Work around the edges is a LOT easier than finding a 2-time MVP in his prime. You do the deal and work out the details later.

anotherhomer · Post #24 » by **anotherhomer** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:02 pm

bluerap23 wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:Its such a small ask but let us keep Ochai while including something else.

I see ochai as a great 3 and D starter that would be needed to play off Giannis/Ingram.

I'm absurdly high on Ochai. I still think he has another level to unlock.

Agree. Ochai is a perfect starter next to Giannis.

i prefer to keep Ochai but he can't stand in the way of the deal

i rather trade Jakobe instead

Yeezus_ · Post #25 » by **Yeezus_** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:08 pm

Do that and the KD deal 8-)

IQ / Shead
Ingram / Walter
KD / Battle
Giannis / Mogbo
Some centers

C position would be weak though

Troubadour · Post #26 » by **Troubadour** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:40 pm

Yeezus_ wrote:Do that and the KD deal

IQ / Shead
Ingram / Walter
KD / Battle
Giannis / Mogbo
Some centers

C position would be weak though

Maybe flip Ingram for a big and a SG

Jerry Lucas · Post #27 » by **Jerry Lucas** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:18 pm

TheRaptor! wrote:
bluerap23 wrote:No brainer. I'd give them 2027 too.

Link https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45526828/nba-offseason-2025-8-giannis-bucks-trades-shake-league

Keep the 2027 to package with RJ and Poetl for KD

Raptors get
Giannis
KD
Monk
JV

Bucks get
Scottie
Gradey
Ochai
Pick 9
2029 and 2031 FRPs from TOR

Suns get
DeMar
Poeltl
2027 FRP from TOR
Another FRP from SAC

Kings get
IQ
RJ

Parataxis · Post #28 » by **Parataxis** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:38 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:Giannis is a top 30 player of all-time, in his prime, locked into a long term deal. It could take decades in the draft to get someone as good as him.

Whatever they want, you give.

He's not locked into a long term deal. He's got two guaranteed years, and then a player option. He could be gone after the 26/27 season.

OakleyDokely · Post #29 » by **OakleyDokely** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:42 pm

Parataxis wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:Giannis is a top 30 player of all-time, in his prime, locked into a long term deal. It could take decades in the draft to get someone as good as him.

Whatever they want, you give.

He's not locked into a long term deal. He's got two guaranteed years, and then a player option. He could be gone after the 26/27 season.

The likely scenario is that he tacks on years to his existing deal before it expires.

I doubt a 34 year Giannis intends to enter free agency. He's going to want a big extension prior to that.

It's not like MIL is going to send him to CHA. He will have a large say in his next destination.

kalel123 · Post #30 » by **kalel123** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 6:15 pm

What exactly is the point of this exercise when it's been said Giannis is staying? Or did something change?

Shakril · Post #31 » by **Shakril** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 6:18 pm

Yeezus_ wrote:Do that and the KD deal

IQ / Shead
Ingram / Walter
KD / Battle
Giannis / Mogbo
Some centers

C position would be weak though

NO, we dont do the KD deal because it doesnt make us better. Havent you guys learnt anything from the last few years? Superteams dont work without a supporting cast, and thats what we would have, when trade for KD.

DreamTeam09 · Post #32 » by **DreamTeam09** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 6:29 pm

I voted no, the goal is to pair our star with a star, not trade our franchise ROY home grown talent for a mercenary once again. Every other franchise goes big fish hunting without giving up their big fish, it's time we start treating ourselves as the same. This isn't some small market desperate for anything.

LoganAndWade · Post #33 » by **LoganAndWade** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 6:54 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:Its such a small ask but let us keep Ochai while including something else.

I see ochai as a great 3 and D starter that would be needed to play off Giannis/Ingram.

This could be word for word, what I've been saying to any Raptor fans that will listen ..
Of course Ochai doesn't hold up the deal... but I'd really like to try to keep him

LJKO · Post #34 » by **LJKO** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 7:03 pm

TheRaptor! wrote:
bluerap23 wrote:No brainer. I'd give them 2027 too.

Link https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45526828/nba-offseason-2025-8-giannis-bucks-trades-shake-league

Keep the 2027 to package with RJ and Poetl for KD

Exactly

Giannis, Durant, Ingram, Ja, and whatever Centre we can get

ForeverTFC · Post #35 » by **ForeverTFC** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 7:11 pm

Who is saying No to this? Please explain yourself.

billy_hoyle · Post #36 » by **billy_hoyle** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 7:20 pm

Too much.

Scottie, Dick and Walter is all I'm giving. That's better than the Doncic package.

That's a recent ROY, a recent lottery pick and a draft faller.

We want to be Indiana NOT Pheonix. Why are we using an objective failure of a trade to set the baseline? Because the Suns massively overpaid for KD (couldn't win a single series with him, missed the playoffs entirely despite keeping a 1st team All NBA player) means we should clear out all assets for Giannis?

Scottie is a massive price to pay.

Psubs · Post #37 » by **Psubs** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 7:24 pm

ForeverTFC wrote:Who is saying No to this? Please explain yourself.

It's not like Al Jefferson for KG.

I'd keep Barnes to pair with Giannis.

Poeltl, Agbaji, Dick, #9, 2027 1st, 2029 1st and 2031 1st with pick swaps in 2026, 2028 and 2030 is all I'd trade.

Shakril · Post #38 » by **Shakril** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 7:46 pm

Jerry Lucas wrote:
TheRaptor! wrote:
bluerap23 wrote:No brainer. I'd give them 2027 too.

Link https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45526828/nba-offseason-2025-8-giannis-bucks-trades-shake-league

Keep the 2027 to package with RJ and Poetl for KD

Raptors get
Giannis
KD
Monk
JV

Bucks get
Scottie
Gradey
Ochai
Pick 9
2029 and 2031 FRPs from TOR

Suns get
DeMar
Poeltl
2027 FRP from TOR
Another FRP from SAC

Kings get
IQ
RJ

Please guys, stop with those nonsense trades. Not even a bum franchise like the kings will agree to that nonsense.

Jerry Lucas · Post #39 » by **Jerry Lucas** » Wed Jun 18, 2025 8:40 pm

Shakril wrote:
Jerry Lucas wrote:
TheRaptor! wrote:
Keep the 2027 to package with RJ and Poetl for KD

Raptors get
Giannis
KD
Monk
JV

Bucks get
Scottie
Gradey
Ochai
Pick 9
2029 and 2031 FRPs from TOR

Suns get
DeMar
Poeltl
2027 FRP from TOR
Another FRP from SAC

Kings get
IQ
RJ

Please guys, stop with those nonsense trades. Not even a bum franchise like the kings will agree to that nonsense.

Former Knicks bum GM Scott Perry is their new GM though.

bluerap23 · Post #40 » by **bluerap23** » Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:41 pm

Jerry Lucas wrote:
Shakril wrote:
Jerry Lucas wrote:Raptors get
Giannis
KD
Monk
JV

Bucks get
Scottie
Gradey
Ochai
Pick 9
2029 and 2031 FRPs from TOR

Suns get
DeMar
Poeltl
2027 FRP from TOR
Another FRP from SAC

Kings get
IQ
RJ

Please guys, stop with those nonsense trades. Not even a bum franchise like the kings will agree to that nonsense.

Former Knicks bum GM Scott Perry is their new GM though.

This is actually a pretty interesting trade. I think it makes the kings better (definitely a better future outlook). And it somehow works under the cap. No way it could ever happen, but kudos on a well crafted fantasy deal.

Would you make the deal?