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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#401 » by RookieStar » Yesterday 10:44 pm

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Depends the asking price.

Orlando kinda has to jump on these low risk/high reward kind of moves given their current situation.

Williams could be the difference maker in a playoff setting. Lakers knew exactly what kind of player he can be.

If we are able to rehabilitate Isaac from the dead, I think Williams will be just fine.


Yeah... do we have 2 seasons to rerhab him though? We kinda need help this season.


Williams isn’t currently injured lol

He’s going into this summer fully “healthy” and ended the end of last season on a tear (no pun intended).

He presents as much risk (if not less) as Jonathan Isaac which seems to be on a permanent minutes restriction.

Orlando simply can’t afford to pay Isaac $15M to play 15m a night. We do not have that luxury anymore.


Well... if doctors/med staff sees nothing wrong with him compared to the lakers staff then sure why not.

I always was partial yo him during his duke season...

But big man with back issues always makes me shudder
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#402 » by The Effect » Yesterday 10:51 pm

what if we make it a 3 way trade with the lakers

some variation of

To Orlando - Mark Williams
To LA - Wendell
to CHA - Knect
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Post#403 » by Bigmagicfan82 » Yesterday 11:22 pm

I think we need to move of WCJ and JI contract. I saw a rumor on X saying that the magic are interested in Mark Williams. I like that idea.

I would like to see a trade with Hornets around Mark Williams for JI.
Then move WCJ to LA for Dalton Knecht.
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#404 » by Skybox » Yesterday 11:24 pm

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Unless his value has dropped significantly (which is probably a red flag), not sure what Orlando can offer that would make sense for Charlotte.

I could see them having some interest in Howard, but that can’t be nearly enough. With no real pick equity I don’t see it.

HOWEVER, for ish and giggles maybe Orlando eats bad salary?

Grant Williams
Mark Williams
Josh Green

For

Jett Howard
Goga Bitazde
Jonathan Isaac

Again, not sure why they do this and if it’s even worth it but it works.

Suggs/MLE/WCJ? (#25)
Bane/Green/vet. min.
Wagner/TDS/Houstan
Banchero/Williams/#46
Carter/Williams/#57


I feel like Skybox writing this out :lol:


You got me...I know my trade "explains" end up like some Unabomber letter.

I really like this trade...you left AB out of the lineup.

I'm not so sure there's really any bad salary...at least, if the players are on their best behavior...would definitely need some character references. Again, this is where Mose's real value might lie - in connecting with players and keeping them on the rails. Grant was a real contributor and fits ORL's profile...versatile, physical defender, shoots 3's, bad attitude...physical bully who can defend multiple spots. I see him listed at 6'6 236, but I think his lower body weighed that...he had a nasty Barkley vibe (as a role player)...with Mose's reference, I add a couple srps.


Took your trade to the CHA board and learned that those guys are all superstars with no health issues...won't do that again :roll:
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#405 » by basketballRob » Yesterday 11:24 pm

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As a Goga replacement would make sense. Also only 1 year so doesn’t hurt long term. Possibly dish out Jett and 2nd or some ****
That guy is a 21 year old college student who keeps making up random rumors.

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Post#406 » by Skybox » Yesterday 11:25 pm

The Effect wrote:what if we make it a 3 way trade with the lakers

some variation of

To Orlando - Mark Williams
To LA - Wendell
to CHA - Knect


Go pitch that to CHA board :lol:

they'll explain to you that Williams is great and the price has gone up since LAL kicked them out.
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#407 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Yesterday 11:32 pm

Skybox wrote:
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I feel like Skybox writing this out :lol:


You got me...I know my trade "explains" end up like some Unabomber letter.

I really like this trade...you left AB out of the lineup.

I'm not so sure there's really any bad salary...at least, if the players are on their best behavior...would definitely need some character references. Again, this is where Mose's real value might lie - in connecting with players and keeping them on the rails. Grant was a real contributor and fits ORL's profile...versatile, physical defender, shoots 3's, bad attitude...physical bully who can defend multiple spots. I see him listed at 6'6 236, but I think his lower body weighed that...he had a nasty Barkley vibe (as a role player)...with Mose's reference, I add a couple srps.


Took your trade to the CHA board and learned that those guys are all superstars with no health issues...won't do that again :roll:


Cmon man, you know better than that.

TBH, I blame us lol. Ever since the Bane trade, everyone thinks their role player is worth multiple FRP :P
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Post#408 » by Audi » Yesterday 11:38 pm

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As a Goga replacement would make sense. Also only 1 year so doesn’t hurt long term. Possibly dish out Jett and 2nd or some ****
That guy is a 21 year old college student who keeps making up random rumors.

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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#409 » by Skybox » Yesterday 11:43 pm

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MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
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As a Goga replacement would make sense. Also only 1 year so doesn’t hurt long term. Possibly dish out Jett and 2nd or some ****
That guy is a 21 year old college student who keeps making up random rumors.

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Shoot...I may have churned that one 2 years ago...it's all a blur of trades :lol:
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Post#410 » by Orl_Magic » Yesterday 11:46 pm

Mark Williams played with Paolo. Maybe if we get his friend he will be happier here
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#411 » by Redick07 » Today 12:17 am

Skybox wrote:
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As a Goga replacement would make sense. Also only 1 year so doesn’t hurt long term. Possibly dish out Jett and 2nd or some ****


WAY more upside than Goga

and WCJ

and Moe

depends on the price.



Mark Williams only played 106 games in his 3-year career and there must be some issues in his body. That’s why Lakers rejected the trade.
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#412 » by RookieStar » Today 1:31 am

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Skybox wrote:
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You got me...I know my trade "explains" end up like some Unabomber letter.

I really like this trade...you left AB out of the lineup.

I'm not so sure there's really any bad salary...at least, if the players are on their best behavior...would definitely need some character references. Again, this is where Mose's real value might lie - in connecting with players and keeping them on the rails. Grant was a real contributor and fits ORL's profile...versatile, physical defender, shoots 3's, bad attitude...physical bully who can defend multiple spots. I see him listed at 6'6 236, but I think his lower body weighed that...he had a nasty Barkley vibe (as a role player)...with Mose's reference, I add a couple srps.


Took your trade to the CHA board and learned that those guys are all superstars with no health issues...won't do that again :roll:


Cmon man, you know better than that.

TBH, I blame us lol. Ever since the Bane trade, everyone thinks their role player is worth multiple FRP :P


Ever since they saw us spending FRPs like like nothing, they all think they can demand the same. Lol
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Post#413 » by drsd » Today 5:33 am

thelead wrote:We traded 2 guards for 1, then cut 2 more guards. No way we are done. More has to happen.


Objectively this is true. There is a mandate that a team has 14 players on the payroll. And the league can (and has) "made" teams sign players to get to that level.
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Post#414 » by drsd » Today 5:35 am

cedric76 wrote:staying under the 1st apron is doable if we sign Moe on a 7 M ish 1+1


The Magic is under the 1st apron by signing a vet with less than 6-years experience (or signing one of their 2nd round picks, an undrafted rookie, a G-leaguer, or a Euro-star with no NBA time).
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Post#415 » by drsd » Today 5:39 am

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thelead wrote:We traded 2 guards for 1, then cut 2 more guards. No way we are done. More has to happen.


Clayton at 25 and full MLE on Alexander-Walker?


Orlando is already 25M over the lux-tax line. This means the Magic is to spend 210M on salary this year already.

I cannot believe the Magic will go over the 1st apron. To get Alexander-Walker on an MLE, Orlando would need to shed 5.1M of salary somewhere else.
Obviously restructuring M-Wagner's contract is the easiest, but that seems to large a drop annually.

p.s. Howard makes 5.5M of dead-weight. Trading him for a 2nd-round pick, coupled to a trim of M-Wagner's contract, the Magic can use the MLE and stay under the 1st apron.
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Post#416 » by thelead » Today 5:49 am

drsd wrote:
Knightro wrote:
thelead wrote:We traded 2 guards for 1, then cut 2 more guards. No way we are done. More has to happen.


Clayton at 25 and full MLE on Alexander-Walker?


Orlando is already 25M over the lux-tax line. This means the Magic is to spend 210M on salary this year already.

I cannot believe the Magic will go over the 1st apron. To get Alexander-Walker on an MLE, Orlando would need to shed 5.1M of salary somewhere else.
Obviously restructuring M-Wagner's contract is the easiest, but that seems to large a drop annually.

p.s. Howard makes 5.5M of dead-weight. Trading him for a 2nd-round pick, coupled to a trim of M-Wagner's contract, the Magic can use the MLE and stay under the 1st apron.

As I suggested earlier, trading Jett and 25 to Brooklyn for 19 makes the most sense to me. Clears some cap space for us, likely secures Clayton, and gets Jett to his dad.
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Post#417 » by Redick07 » Today 6:10 am

drsd wrote:
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thelead wrote:We traded 2 guards for 1, then cut 2 more guards. No way we are done. More has to happen.


Clayton at 25 and full MLE on Alexander-Walker?


Orlando is already 25M over the lux-tax line. This means the Magic is to spend 210M on salary this year already.

I cannot believe the Magic will go over the 1st apron. To get Alexander-Walker on an MLE, Orlando would need to shed 5.1M of salary somewhere else.
Obviously restructuring M-Wagner's contract is the easiest, but that seems to large a drop annually.

p.s. Howard makes 5.5M of dead-weight. Trading him for a 2nd-round pick, coupled to a trim of M-Wagner's contract, the Magic can use the MLE and stay under the 1st apron.


Could you please show me how you get this “210m”? Cuz the formation I found in several websites show that our cap will be approximately 190m after 7/1 without using MLE.

WCJ(11m) / Goga(8.3m) / MoW(9m, re-sign)
Paolo(15.3m) / Isaac(15m)
Franz(38.6m) / TDS(3.8m)
Bane(36.7m) / #25(3.5m) / Jett(5.5m)
Suggs(35m) / Black (8m)

Total 190m. With using MLE, it might be 203m, not 210m.

*I agree that we should get rid of Jett’s contract
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Post#418 » by pepe1991 » Today 6:38 am

thelead wrote:
drsd wrote:
Knightro wrote:
Clayton at 25 and full MLE on Alexander-Walker?


Orlando is already 25M over the lux-tax line. This means the Magic is to spend 210M on salary this year already.

I cannot believe the Magic will go over the 1st apron. To get Alexander-Walker on an MLE, Orlando would need to shed 5.1M of salary somewhere else.
Obviously restructuring M-Wagner's contract is the easiest, but that seems to large a drop annually.

p.s. Howard makes 5.5M of dead-weight. Trading him for a 2nd-round pick, coupled to a trim of M-Wagner's contract, the Magic can use the MLE and stay under the 1st apron.

As I suggested earlier, trading Jett and 25 to Brooklyn for 19 makes the most sense to me. Clears some cap space for us, likely secures Clayton, and gets Jett to his dad.


Would you take such deal if you are Nets?
Losing 6 spots in a draft just to collect player that is pretty much expensive (for a rookie) 22 y.o. player with little nba experience, who sucked for two years in nba?

Net's might do you a favor and give you 26 or 27 pick for 25th pick just to collect $5M of dead cap in Jett tho.

Like, if you send Jett in 2025 draft, he is not being picked in first round for sure, maybe not even in second.

If i'm nba team i would rather swing for some Tamar Bates late in first or in second round than take Jett. If for nothing else, he will be cheaper and with longer (cheap) deal.
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#419 » by cedric76 » Today 6:58 am

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As a Goga replacement would make sense. Also only 1 year so doesn’t hurt long term. Possibly dish out Jett and 2nd or some ****
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Post#420 » by drsd » Today 7:17 am

thelead wrote:As I suggested earlier, trading Jett and 25 to Brooklyn for 19 makes the most sense to me. Clears some cap space for us, likely secures Clayton, and gets Jett to his dad.


It is an interesting trade. As to the maths.

Pick 19 is 900k more expensive than the 25, and Howard makes 5.5M. Orlando is currently 2.6M under the apron, so this trade takes the Magic to being 7.2M under the 1st apron.

That's not the full MLE, but it is one vet on 2.5M (a 4-year vet), leaving 4.7M for a solid-minutes backup wing in the FA market at either the SG or SF slot.
Late in the FA market there might be a vet that did not cash out. Late in the FA window, that means a player like, Gary Trent, Luke Kennard, Tim Hardaway Jr., Amir Coffey, Bruce Brown, Sam Merrill, Gary Payton II, Garrison Mathews, Bojan Bogdanović, Jae'Sean Tate, Talen Horton-Tucker, Jabari Walker, Cam Reddish, Kessler Edwards, and, ...... Slo-Joe Ingles. (etc.)

In conclusion: I love this trade idea. Every player above is an upgrade over Howard. And I would bet your house one of the above will be available for 4.7M.



pepe1991 wrote:Would you take such deal if you are Nets?


I'd be OK with Orlando trading Howard to the Nets for a top-59 protected future draft pick; and not moving up in the draft at all. A decent rookie that will get zero minutes will be had at either 19 or 25. But dumping Howard to get a decent backup wing has huge value for the Magic.

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