Trades and Transactions 2025 continued x2

[god shammgod]

there's no way durant is staying there. he'll be rerouted by the trade deadline.

[MrDollarBills]

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I don't understand the logic behind this though. Raptors are not a win now team.

i guess they think they will be with durant, ingram, barnes. might be good enough to make the playoffs.

Ingram hasn't played over 65 games since his rookie year. Oof.

[MrDollarBills]

The core group of this roster is not changing until we see what the next coach can do. That's probably the reality.

Been saying the same thing for days. The new coach needs buy-in to the roster construction or it's doomed to fail.

This is a roster that you add pieces to, definitely.

[god shammgod]

I don't understand the logic behind this though. Raptors are not a win now team.

i guess they think they will be with durant, ingram, barnes. might be good enough to make the playoffs.

Ingram hasn't played over 65 games since his rookie year. Oof.

maybe this is all about getting out of rj's contract and they feel like they can reroute durant later and get assets back

masai has been running that team terribly for years now so who knows really. i can remember when people thought he was a genius when he was with denver. how the mighty have fallen.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Bro he’s a good player. Do they watch games?

Dude runs up and down the court and in circles on defense. Crashing through brick walls chasing all stars around all night EVERY night. 82 games. Some personality flaw is a problem? Some perceived lack of aggression is a mental problem? The coach sucked. The system sucked. The guy will played pretty damn good. 17+ ppg 60+ from 2p 35+ from 3. Lock down D at times. What are we talking about here? He was good in the playoffs.

To be fair, not everyone is dumping on him. Some just want to see more fire. I feel the HC is really what the problem was.

Everything you say about Mikal is spot on.

However the business and relation side of it play a role here too....

Is there a world where we keep Mikal? Possibly. I am not against it. I am all for maximizing roster construction within the rules of the current CBA. Unfortunately one of Mikal or OG may be the best way to do it. Hart will not get you the value back Mikal or OG would. And unless you are getting aGiannis or maybe JJJ trading KAT will downgrade not upgrade the team.

Possibly? We just traded 5 picks for him. You are so obsessed with JJJ and Giannis and making trades that you must have lost your way!!

We railed against Thibs together all year!! I know you agree we could/should/would be in the finals if not for Thibs. Why are you so hell bent on breaking that up before we even know who the next HC is? We need a bench. That was our achilles heel all year. Our starting 5 was one of the best in the league. They got us to the ECF in spite of the coaching. I know you agree there too. There's tremendous balance even with the flaws. Top end PG in the league. Top end Big Man in the league. Wingstop and a glue guy. That's pretty damn good. Deuce/Mitch are very good bench players. Mitch could be a starter if we can keep him healthy.

Rest of the bench is where we need to focus. Simple moves. We don't have much to spend but, do we really need that much?

It's fine dreaming about building a flawless team with imaginary trades but, don't lose sight of the fact that we made further than 27 other teams and could have gone further. It's clearly more realistic that we will most likely be looking to fix the bench.

IMO any trades will be lower tier depth moves around JB/MB/OG/KAT. EVERYONE else is a possible trade chip.

Obviously the market and the next HC will dictate a lot of that but, you seem to think they are planning on big game hunting for players that aren't on the market yet. We don't really need to do that.

[8516knicks]

i guess they think they will be with durant, ingram, barnes. might be good enough to make the playoffs.

Ingram hasn't played over 65 games since his rookie year. Oof.

maybe this is all about getting out of rj's contract and they feel like they can reroute durant later and get assets back

masai has been running that team terribly for years now so who knows really. i can remember when people thought he was a genius when he was with denver. how the mighty have fallen.

There are only so many Bargnani level-suckers in the NBA (one - the Knicks).

[ctorres]

hey guys, I noticed the NBA Draft is in one week and the Knicks have the 50th pick

Shouldn't we have a draft thread? We have an NFL Draft thread right now, but not an NBA one

If someone doesn't make one by tomorrow, I'll make one. I feel like someone else would make a better one than me though.

Hopefully we don't trade our 2nd round pick. We drafted both Jericho Sims and Ariel Hukporti in the 2nd draft, so we definitely can find a rotation player if we put in a little effort in the scouting process.

[thebuzzardman]

The core group of this roster is not changing until we see what the next coach can do. That's probably the reality.

Been saying the same thing for days. The new coach needs buy-in to the roster construction or it's doomed to fail.

This is a roster that you add pieces to, definitely.

This roster lacks a legitimate shooting guard.

Hart - plays like a PF
Mikal - his wing skills are those of a SF
Deuce - undersized combo guard

Knicks needs to address this

[thebuzzardman]

hey guys, I noticed the NBA Draft is in one week and the Knicks have the 50th pick

Shouldn't we have a draft thread? We have an NFL Draft thread right now, but not an NBA one

If someone doesn't make one by tomorrow, I'll make one. I feel like someone else would make a better one than me though.

Hopefully we don't trade our 2nd round pick. We drafted both Jericho Sims and Ariel Hukporti in the 2nd draft, so we definitely can find a rotation player if we put in a little effort in the scouting process.

Is anyone really that excited by a player that will be bad or stashed in Europe never to see the nba?

[DaGawd]

hey guys, I noticed the NBA Draft is in one week and the Knicks have the 50th pick

Shouldn't we have a draft thread? We have an NFL Draft thread right now, but not an NBA one

If someone doesn't make one by tomorrow, I'll make one. I feel like someone else would make a better one than me though.

Hopefully we don't trade our 2nd round pick. We drafted both Jericho Sims and Ariel Hukporti in the 2nd draft, so we definitely can find a rotation player if we put in a little effort in the scouting process.

Is anyone really that excited by a player that will be bad or stashed in Europe never to see the nba?

lol this

[Jalen Bluntson]

hey guys, I noticed the NBA Draft is in one week and the Knicks have the 50th pick

Shouldn't we have a draft thread? We have an NFL Draft thread right now, but not an NBA one

If someone doesn't make one by tomorrow, I'll make one. I feel like someone else would make a better one than me though.

Hopefully we don't trade our 2nd round pick. We drafted both Jericho Sims and Ariel Hukporti in the 2nd draft, so we definitely can find a rotation player if we put in a little effort in the scouting process.

Is anyone really that excited by a player that will be bad or stashed in Europe never to see the nba?

lol this

I stopped caring about the draft years ago. wasted energy

[KnixinSix]

Been saying the same thing for days. The new coach needs buy-in to the roster construction or it's doomed to fail.

This is a roster that you add pieces to, definitely.

This roster lacks a legitimate shooting guard.

Hart - plays like a PF
Mikal - his wing skills are those of a SF
Deuce - undersized combo guard

Knicks needs to address this

Thats kinda Divo....or maybe the guy we get at MLE....

[MrDollarBills]

This is a roster that you add pieces to, definitely.

This roster lacks a legitimate shooting guard.

Hart - plays like a PF
Mikal - his wing skills are those of a SF
Deuce - undersized combo guard

Knicks needs to address this

Thats kinda Divo....or maybe the guy we get at MLE....

Knicks have to send out like 12.4 mil to get him back.

[ctorres]

Is anyone really that excited by a player that will be bad or stashed in Europe never to see the nba?

lol this

I stopped caring about the draft years ago. wasted energy

Cynicism is so contagious on here

This forum used to love talking about the draft regardless of what pick we had

[thebuzzardman]

lol this

I stopped caring about the draft years ago. wasted energy

Cynicism is so contagious on here

This forum used to love talking about the draft regardless of what pick we had

Back then there were more interesting players to discuss:

[KnixinSix]

Dude runs up and down the court and in circles on defense. Crashing through brick walls chasing all stars around all night EVERY night. 82 games. Some personality flaw is a problem? Some perceived lack of aggression is a mental problem? The coach sucked. The system sucked. The guy will played pretty damn good. 17+ ppg 60+ from 2p 35+ from 3. Lock down D at times. What are we talking about here? He was good in the playoffs.

To be fair, not everyone is dumping on him. Some just want to see more fire. I feel the HC is really what the problem was.

Everything you say about Mikal is spot on.

However the business and relation side of it play a role here too....

Is there a world where we keep Mikal? Possibly. I am not against it. I am all for maximizing roster construction within the rules of the current CBA. Unfortunately one of Mikal or OG may be the best way to do it. Hart will not get you the value back Mikal or OG would. And unless you are getting aGiannis or maybe JJJ trading KAT will downgrade not upgrade the team.

Possibly? We just traded 5 picks for him. You are so obsessed with JJJ and Giannis and making trades that you must have lost your way!!

We railed against Thibs together all year!! I know you agree we could/should/would be in the finals if not for Thibs. Why are you so hell bent on breaking that up before we even know who the next HC is? We need a bench. That was our achilles heel all year. Our starting 5 was one of the best in the league. They got us to the ECF in spite of the coaching. I know you agree there too. There's tremendous balance even with the flaws. Top end PG in the league. Top end Big Man in the league. Wingstop and a glue guy. That's pretty damn good. Deuce/Mitch are very good bench players. Mitch could be a starter if we can keep him healthy.

Rest of the bench is where we need to focus. Simple moves. We don't have much to spend but, do we really need that much?

It's fine dreaming about building a flawless team with imaginary trades but, don't lose sight of the fact that we made further than 27 other teams and could have gone further. It's clearly more realistic that we will most likely be looking to fix the bench.

IMO any trades will be lower tier depth moves around JB/MB/OG/KAT. EVERYONE else is a possible trade chip.

Obviously the market and the next HC will dictate a lot of that but, you seem to think they are planning on big game hunting for players that aren't on the market yet. We don't really need to do that.

Yes this current team as constituted is very very good. But it has some flaws that are potentially addressable. The name of the game is improvement and keeping your championship contention window as long as possible. I truly believe most of the scenarios presented accomplish that goal without totally destroying the main core.

In most the top two of KAT and Brunson remain intact and we only trade one of OG/Mikal. It isnt blowing up the team by any means. And if it came down to it I am not letting Mikal stand in the way of adding an absolute stud and great fit to the roster especially if it was one of Giannis or JJJ.

And I love Mitch too but his reality is pretty clear. He almost never plays more than half a season and he is on the last year of his contract and extending him is SUPER risky. Bottomline, we need a more reliable defensive big (or two) next to KAT.

Look I get fandom sometimes emotionally binds us to players but good GMs do not think that way.


In any event lets see what they do.

[KnixinSix]

This roster lacks a legitimate shooting guard.

Hart - plays like a PF
Mikal - his wing skills are those of a SF
Deuce - undersized combo guard

Knicks needs to address this

Thats kinda Divo....or maybe the guy we get at MLE....

Knicks have to send out like 12.4 mil to get him back.

11.99 actually but yeah. And there a few different ways to accomplish that. The easier would be Mit h especially if Minny pulls off Durant for Goebert.

[DaGawd]

lol this

I stopped caring about the draft years ago. wasted energy

Cynicism is so contagious on here

This forum used to love talking about the draft regardless of what pick we had

this regime don’t really gaf bout the draft unfortunately

[VirginiaKnickFan]

I stopped caring about the draft years ago. wasted energy

Cynicism is so contagious on here

This forum used to love talking about the draft regardless of what pick we had

Back then there were more interesting players to discuss:

Then Isiah Thomas was hired and dumped him right away.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Everything you say about Mikal is spot on.

However the business and relation side of it play a role here too....

Is there a world where we keep Mikal? Possibly. I am not against it. I am all for maximizing roster construction within the rules of the current CBA. Unfortunately one of Mikal or OG may be the best way to do it. Hart will not get you the value back Mikal or OG would. And unless you are getting aGiannis or maybe JJJ trading KAT will downgrade not upgrade the team.

Possibly? We just traded 5 picks for him. You are so obsessed with JJJ and Giannis and making trades that you must have lost your way!!

We railed against Thibs together all year!! I know you agree we could/should/would be in the finals if not for Thibs. Why are you so hell bent on breaking that up before we even know who the next HC is? We need a bench. That was our achilles heel all year. Our starting 5 was one of the best in the league. They got us to the ECF in spite of the coaching. I know you agree there too. There's tremendous balance even with the flaws. Top end PG in the league. Top end Big Man in the league. Wingstop and a glue guy. That's pretty damn good. Deuce/Mitch are very good bench players. Mitch could be a starter if we can keep him healthy.

Rest of the bench is where we need to focus. Simple moves. We don't have much to spend but, do we really need that much?

It's fine dreaming about building a flawless team with imaginary trades but, don't lose sight of the fact that we made further than 27 other teams and could have gone further. It's clearly more realistic that we will most likely be looking to fix the bench.

IMO any trades will be lower tier depth moves around JB/MB/OG/KAT. EVERYONE else is a possible trade chip.

Obviously the market and the next HC will dictate a lot of that but, you seem to think they are planning on big game hunting for players that aren't on the market yet. We don't really need to do that.

Yes this current team as constituted is very very good. But it has some flaws that are potentially addressable. The name of the game is improvement and keeping your championship contention window as long as possible. I truly believe most of the scenarios presented accomplish that goal without totally destroying the main core.

In most the top two of KAT and Brunson remain intact and we only trade one of OG/Mikal. It isnt blowing up the team by any means. And if it came down to it I am not letting Mikal stand in the way of adding an absolute stud and great fit to the roster especially if it was one of Giannis or JJJ.

And I love Mitch too but his reality is pretty clear. He almost never plays more than half a season and he is on the last year of his contract and extending him is SUPER risky. Bottomline, we need a more reliable defensive big (or two) next to KAT.

Look I get fandom sometimes emotionally binds us to players but good GMs do not think that way.


In any event lets see what they do.

I mentioned Mitch being a trade piece. The main point is, you keep coming up with crazy trades that do not improve the team or, for players that aren't on the market.

Jalen Mikal OG KAT not going anywhere. We're not gunning for Giannis. We're not using JJJ as a fall back plan. These are very likely realities. Again... It's ok to dream but, this core almost made the finals. Unless something pops up out of left field, it's better for you to start focusing on improving the bench. Just keep those 4 out of your trade ideas because the team invested a lot to get them here. Reality. They fired the HC to keep them together.