2025 Draft Thread - Part 3

[closg00]

Fears is smaller than Harper , shoots 7% worse on 2s, turns it over 50% more. Nothing to see here.

Is this the view of the Wizards FO?

[tontoz]

Fears is smaller than Harper , shoots 7% worse on 2s, turns it over 50% more. Nothing to see here.

Is this the view of the Wizards FO?

Yes, unless all the reports of them trying to trade with the Spurs are fake.

Do you think they need to trade up to 2 to get Fears?

[TheBlackCzar]

Fears is smaller than Harper , shoots 7% worse on 2s, turns it over 50% more. Nothing to see here.

the fact that you think you closed the arguments on 18 and 19 year olds is funny.... Go look up how different these guys will both look in a few seasons.....

[payitforward]

A M Hoops take,

"Some NBA FO's think Fears is right up there with Dylan Harper, maybe better" the target is Fears, not Bailey.

Absurd take. This is pure disinformation planted by somebody.

I suppose it might be -- but it's also the case that for every player there's someone who likes him especially.

With one exception, Fears' numbers were spectacular for a Freshman. Better than Ja Morant's numbers & against what I presume was much tougher competition than Ja faced at Moorehead St.

That exception, I'm sure you know, was his turnovers -- 4.5 per 40 minutes! That's a turnover every 9.5 minutes! Yikes...! For the rest, however, wow! So, I can see his having strong supporters.

The guy I would NOT take at 6, who I hope goes somewhere in the 3-4-5 stretch, is Tre Johnson. He shot the 3 well (& FTAs as well), but that's as far as it goes. The rest of his numbers aren't good, & his TS% is meh despite the good 3-pt shooting. We'll see whether I'm right, but I don't see a very good NBA player in Johnson.

Edgecombe' numbers are a little better than Fears' & a lot better than Johnson's.

Truth is, however, I see no reason to prefer any of these guys over Maluach.

Moreover, as I look at the prospects mocked from, say, 15 through 30 I cannot see how we get someone at 18 who's likely to be better than a guy we could get at 26 or 27. For that reason, if I was sure I'd get Maluach at 8, I'd be hoping the Nets really want Johnson or Bailey & would trade their 3 picks for our 2 higher picks.

My hope would be to come away with Maluach, Jase Richardson, & whichever French guy Dat2 likes best at that spot -- say Penda.

Be one hlle of a draft.

[tontoz]

Fears is smaller than Harper , shoots 7% worse on 2s, turns it over 50% more. Nothing to see here.

the fact that you think you closed the arguments on 18 and 19 year olds is funny.... Go look up how different these guys will both look in a few seasons.....

Have you seen any reports about the Spurs considering Fears? If you have feel free to share

[payitforward]

I'd also like to remind this board that I thought Shabazz Muhammad would be a good pro.

I did too, & I still don't see why he didn't develop into one.

[closg00]

Fears is smaller than Harper , shoots 7% worse on 2s, turns it over 50% more. Nothing to see here.

Is this the view of the Wizards FO?

Yes, unless all the reports of them trying to trade with the Spurs are fake.

Do you think they need to trade up to 2 to get Fears?

It couldn't be the view of the FO that there is nothing to see because they went-through great lengths to do a secret workout with him at Georgetown, to .....see him.

[closg00]

Oh-well, if this holds, the Jazz would certainly take VJ, Philly ??? Maluach is my guess. Charlotte, Johnson, so we still get to choose between Bailey and Fears IF it goes this way.

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[tontoz]

Is this the view of the Wizards FO?

Yes, unless all the reports of them trying to trade with the Spurs are fake.

Do you think they need to trade up to 2 to get Fears?

It couldn't be the view of the FO that there is nothing to see because they went-through great lengths to do a secret workout with him at Georgetown, to .....see him.

Yeah, and then they decided to explore trading up to 2 or 3 with two teams who have shown no interest in Fears.

There is no comparison between Fears and Harper. Harper is bigger and more skilled which is why he has been the consensus 2 for months.

[NatP4]

Philly would go Tre Johnson at 5. Charlotte goes Kon or Maluach (Mark Williams trade rumors make sense).

Kon/Bailey would be a really tough choice for Washington IMO.

[closg00]

Yes, unless all the reports of them trying to trade with the Spurs are fake.

Do you think they need to trade up to 2 to get Fears?

It couldn't be the view of the FO that there is nothing to see because they went-through great lengths to do a secret workout with him at Georgetown, to .....see him.

Yeah, and then they decided to explore trading up to 2 or 3 with two teams who have shown no interest in Fears.

If we are unsuccessful in trading-up, Fears is under consideration isn't he?

[tontoz]

It couldn't be the view of the FO that there is nothing to see because they went-through great lengths to do a secret workout with him at Georgetown, to .....see him.

Yeah, and then they decided to explore trading up to 2 or 3 with two teams who have shown no interest in Fears.

If we are unsuccessful in trading-up, Fears is under consideration isn't he?

Yeah, but if you actually read the post I said " nothing to see here" when comparing Harper to Fears. RIF

Fears is smaller than Harper , shoots 7% worse on 2s, turns it over 50% more. Nothing to see here

[willbcocks]

Philly would go Tre Johnson at 5. Charlotte goes Kon or Maluach (Mark Williams trade rumors make sense).

Kon/Bailey would be a really tough choice for Washington IMO.

I would be absolutely shocked if our FO picked Kon. Not sure how they feel about Bailey; probably the pick in that situation, and if not, maybe Fears, Essengue or a trade down.

[tontoz]

Philly would go Tre Johnson at 5. Charlotte goes Kon or Maluach (Mark Williams trade rumors make sense).

Kon/Bailey would be a really tough choice for Washington IMO.

I really don't think that would be a tough decision at all lol. Did you forget the green font?

[gesa2]

Philly would go Tre Johnson at 5. Charlotte goes Kon or Maluach (Mark Williams trade rumors make sense).

Kon/Bailey would be a really tough choice for Washington IMO.

I really don't think that would be a tough decision at all lol. Did you forget the green font?

Dawkins and Winger seem to value having players with BBall IQ that are also long for their position. This choice if it breaks like this is not clear with those values, although I’d go with Ace

[NatP4]

Philly would go Tre Johnson at 5. Charlotte goes Kon or Maluach (Mark Williams trade rumors make sense).

Kon/Bailey would be a really tough choice for Washington IMO.

I really don't think that would be a tough decision at all lol. Did you forget the green font?

This board is lower on Kon than just about anywhere else. I guess that’s because of the Kispert pick?

Vecenie has him ranked 3rd.

[tontoz]

Philly would go Tre Johnson at 5. Charlotte goes Kon or Maluach (Mark Williams trade rumors make sense).

Kon/Bailey would be a really tough choice for Washington IMO.

I really don't think that would be a tough decision at all lol. Did you forget the green font?

Dawkins and Winger seem to value having players with BBall IQ that are also long for their position. This choice if it breaks like this is not clear with those values, although I’d go with Ace

I would say the chances of them drafting Kon at 6 are about the same as them signing me to
a two way contract.

He is slow AF for a wing can't shoot off the dribble.

[NatP4]

Twitter rumors about Kon coming in for a workout with the Wiz. Robbins’ Athletic article also claimed they had him in the same tier as Edgecombe.

[DCZards]

Yeah, and then they decided to explore trading up to 2 or 3 with two teams who have shown no interest in Fears.

If we are unsuccessful in trading-up, Fears is under consideration isn't he?

Yeah, but if you actually read the post I said " nothing to see here" when comparing Harper to Fears. RIF

Fears is smaller than Harper , shoots 7% worse on 2s, turns it over 50% more. Nothing to see here

None of the 3 guys on the podcast comparing Harper and Fear suggests that Fears is as good— or better—than Harper…only that the gap between the two is not that large.

Kevin O’Connor pointed out that when you look inside the #s Fears has a better shooting touch than Harper and, while Fears shot 28% on 3s overall, he shot 36% on catch and shoot 3s.

[closg00]

Zards, what you are referring to is in a video I posted before the one you watched, here it is.
https://youtu.be/99eJfC1swpA?feature=shared