Trades and Transactions 2025 continued x2

[stuporman]

Some of yall act like the Knicks weren't a game 1 meltdown away from being in the finals but lost the play-in game or something.

Only the first season of this group together playing against teams that have had multiple years together to develop chemistry.

If the coach was holding them back as much as some of you seem to believe then why the hysterics and desire to change it all up once again instead of let the core develop even more.

[KnixinSix]

Possibly? We just traded 5 picks for him. You are so obsessed with JJJ and Giannis and making trades that you must have lost your way!!

We railed against Thibs together all year!! I know you agree we could/should/would be in the finals if not for Thibs. Why are you so hell bent on breaking that up before we even know who the next HC is? We need a bench. That was our achilles heel all year. Our starting 5 was one of the best in the league. They got us to the ECF in spite of the coaching. I know you agree there too. There's tremendous balance even with the flaws. Top end PG in the league. Top end Big Man in the league. Wingstop and a glue guy. That's pretty damn good. Deuce/Mitch are very good bench players. Mitch could be a starter if we can keep him healthy.

Rest of the bench is where we need to focus. Simple moves. We don't have much to spend but, do we really need that much?

It's fine dreaming about building a flawless team with imaginary trades but, don't lose sight of the fact that we made further than 27 other teams and could have gone further. It's clearly more realistic that we will most likely be looking to fix the bench.

IMO any trades will be lower tier depth moves around JB/MB/OG/KAT. EVERYONE else is a possible trade chip.

Obviously the market and the next HC will dictate a lot of that but, you seem to think they are planning on big game hunting for players that aren't on the market yet. We don't really need to do that.

Yes this current team as constituted is very very good. But it has some flaws that are potentially addressable. The name of the game is improvement and keeping your championship contention window as long as possible. I truly believe most of the scenarios presented accomplish that goal without totally destroying the main core.

In most the top two of KAT and Brunson remain intact and we only trade one of OG/Mikal. It isnt blowing up the team by any means. And if it came down to it I am not letting Mikal stand in the way of adding an absolute stud and great fit to the roster especially if it was one of Giannis or JJJ.

And I love Mitch too but his reality is pretty clear. He almost never plays more than half a season and he is on the last year of his contract and extending him is SUPER risky. Bottomline, we need a more reliable defensive big (or two) next to KAT.

Look I get fandom sometimes emotionally binds us to players but good GMs do not think that way.


In any event lets see what they do.

I mentioned Mitch being a trade piece. The main point is, you keep coming up with crazy trades that do not improve the team or, for players that aren't on the market.

Jalen Mikal OG KAT not going anywhere. We're not gunning for Giannis. We're not using JJJ as a fall back plan. These are very likely realities. Again... It's ok to dream but, this core almost made the finals. Unless something pops up out of left field, it's better for you to start focusing on improving the bench. Just keep those 4 out of your trade ideas because the team invested a lot to get them here. Reality. They fired the HC to keep them together.

The only thing we heard from Ian Begley who is the mouthpiece is something very similar to what we heard about Julius Randall onMikal entering his last contract year and that was that right now we are not guaranteed to extend him.

So you can not definitively say all 4 are going nowhere especially Mikal. Maybe it changes when the coach is hired...we will see.

[KnixinSix]

Some of yall act like the Knicks weren't a game 1 meltdown away from being in the finals but lost the play-in game or something.

Only the first season of this group together playing against teams that have had multiple years together to develop chemistry.

If the coach was holding them back as much as some of you seem to believe then why the hysterics and desire to change it all up once again instead of let the core develop even more.

Team is very very good but they need at minimum to deal with the C position to give it more defensive stability.

Also if an opportunity presents itself to improve the team do you ignore it saying nah we are good enough as is? Those are the two key components here....

[stuporman]

Some of yall act like the Knicks weren't a game 1 meltdown away from being in the finals but lost the play-in game or something.

Only the first season of this group together playing against teams that have had multiple years together to develop chemistry.

If the coach was holding them back as much as some of you seem to believe then why the hysterics and desire to change it all up once again instead of let the core develop even more.

Team is very very good but they need at minimum to deal with the C position to give it more defensive stability.

Also if an opportunity presents itself to improve the team do you ignore it saying nah we are good enough as is? Those are the two key components here....

Nah, people are pathetically fickle and have no clue how to behave professionally, they actually believe they know more than anyone else. The fan base used to be considered one of the most knowledgable but they've turned into a clown show os screamin A smiff level hysterics.

[BKlutch]

The core group of this roster is not changing until we see what the next coach can do. That's probably the reality.

Damm. A year of KD would have set us up for life. I’d face traded all our best players just for that.

[BKlutch]

Raptors got Ingram, definitely seem like they are going for win-now.

Maybe they remember they won with a rental star. But KD is no Kawhi.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Some of yall act like the Knicks weren't a game 1 meltdown away from being in the finals but lost the play-in game or something.

Only the first season of this group together playing against teams that have had multiple years together to develop chemistry.

If the coach was holding them back as much as some of you seem to believe then why the hysterics and desire to change it all up once again instead of let the core develop even more.

Team is very very good but they need at minimum to deal with the C position to give it more defensive stability.

Also if an opportunity presents itself to improve the team do you ignore it saying nah we are good enough as is? Those are the two key components here....

No one said don't try to improve the team when opportunity knocks. You're in here looking to trade away core players for guys who aren't available or a lesser package because Mitch. We're saying why? If the next HC wants to blow it up, that's a different story though but, the FO committed a lot of assets and money to build this team. It's safe to say they aren't gonna break it up one year later. They fired the HC because he couldn't make it work. Pretty sure they're looking for a HC that can.

[Capn'O]

Durant, Ingram, Barnes is a Big 3 that could rival the Suns' Big 3.

[Capn'O]

Also, this idea that teams don't want RJ even though they start him is straight up fan fiction.

[Capn'O]

i guess they think they will be with durant, ingram, barnes. might be good enough to make the playoffs.

Ingram hasn't played over 65 games since his rookie year. Oof.

maybe this is all about getting out of rj's contract and they feel like they can reroute durant later and get assets back

masai has been running that team terribly for years now so who knows really. i can remember when people thought he was a genius when he was with denver. how the mighty have fallen.

He and John Paxson made a living out of fleecing the Knicks.

[The KnicksFix]

i guess they think they will be with durant, ingram, barnes. might be good enough to make the playoffs.

Ingram hasn't played over 65 games since his rookie year. Oof.

maybe this is all about getting out of rj's contract and they feel like they can reroute durant later and get assets back

masai has been running that team terribly for years now so who knows really. i can remember when people thought he was a genius when he was with denver. how the mighty have fallen.

Dood basically pulls off one trade where we trade the farm for Melo, yet he became a legendary GM, never made sense to me
Then he basically puts together one win now team that wins it, but handicaps their future because of going all in, and he’s still viewed as a great

[spree2kawhi]

I think we’re getting DiVincenzo back via Phoenix. They don’t need him with Beal and Booker, but McBride could be their guy.

[Jalen Bluntson]

I think we’re getting DiVincenzo back via Phoenix. They don’t need him with Beal and Booker, but McBride could be their guy.

Huh? Did I miss something?

[god shammgod]

I think we’re getting DiVincenzo back via Phoenix. They don’t need him with Beal and Booker, but McBride could be their guy.

Huh? Did I miss something?

no. people are just obsessed with donte.

[R-DAWG]

Some of yall act like the Knicks weren't a game 1 meltdown away from being in the finals but lost the play-in game or something.

Only the first season of this group together playing against teams that have had multiple years together to develop chemistry.

If the coach was holding them back as much as some of you seem to believe then why the hysterics and desire to change it all up once again instead of let the core develop even more.

I’ve been mostly negative about this group since the Bridges trade, and was the leader of the cash out on OG to regroup bandwagon. But given the playoff run and Tatum’s injury I’m mostly on the run it back and improve in the margins bandwagon.

Obviously- if you can upgrade your top talent, you consider it. But if we walked away from this offseason signing Clint Capela for the tax MLE and Malcom Brogdon for the minimum, while handing the reigns over to a coach more willing to experiment with the bench and add some creativity to the offense it’s a win.

Brunson-Bridges-Anunoby-Towns-Capela
Brogdon-McBride-Hart-Robinson

That’s a 9 deep veteran playoff lineup. Kolek, Dadiet and Huckporti should all get chances to play minutes when guys miss games during the regular season.

I still have questions as to the teams ceiling. Can you build a championship defense around Brunson/Kat? Are Bridges/Anunboy too redundant to maximize their strengths at the same time, and too expensive to sacrifice depth for? Now add Hart to the conversation?

But this is still a conference finals team in a very weak conference.

[R-DAWG]

Been saying the same thing for days. The new coach needs buy-in to the roster construction or it's doomed to fail.

This is a roster that you add pieces to, definitely.

This roster lacks a legitimate shooting guard.

Hart - plays like a PF
Mikal - his wing skills are those of a SF
Deuce - undersized combo guard

Knicks needs to address this

This is one of the biggest challenges with the roster, although it’s possible it’s something we can work around.

Given the price we paid for Mikal/OG, and the roster limitations that resulted from it, it sucks that we need to play one of them out of position. Their talent isn’t high end enough to offset it.

[R-DAWG]

Based on the price Orlando paid for Bane, could we see a 3-team trade with the Kings that looks something like this:

Kings acquire Anunoby for Monk, DeRozan, and 3 1st rd picks - SAC 26 (unprotected), better of SAC/SAS 27 (unprotected), MIN 31 (unprotected)

The 2026 SAC pick is flipped to Utah for Walker Kessler. Utah also gets swap rights for the 27 SAC pick with the 2nd least valuable of UTA/MIN/CLE/LAL in 27.

DeRozan is routed to Dallas with Klay Thompson going to NY.

NYK:
Brunson-Thompson-Bridges-Towns-Kessler
McBride-Monk-Hart-Robinson

Plus a 27 and 31 1st recouped

Would love to replace Thompson with a younger 3 and D wing but couldn’t think of one at that salary slot, but that’s what the extra picks are for.

[KnicksGadfly]

Based on the price Orlando paid for Bane, could we see a 3-team trade with the Kings that looks something like this:

Kings acquire Anunoby for Monk, DeRozan, and 3 1st rd picks - SAC 26 (unprotected), better of SAC/SAS 27 (unprotected), MIN 31 (unprotected)

The 2026 SAC pick is flipped to Utah for Walker Kessler. Utah also gets swap rights for the 27 SAC pick with the 2nd least valuable of UTA/MIN/CLE/LAL in 27.

DeRozan is routed to Dallas with Klay Thompson going to NY.

NYK:
Brunson-Thompson-Bridges-Towns-Kessler
McBride-Monk-Hart-Robinson

Plus a 27 and 31 1st recouped

Would love to replace Thompson with a younger 3 and D wing but couldn’t think of one at that salary slot, but that’s what the extra picks are for.

As one of the biggest DeRozan haters on the board, I’d rather just start McBride and then move DDR to the bench at that point.

[ctorres]

Some of yall act like the Knicks weren't a game 1 meltdown away from being in the finals but lost the play-in game or something.

Only the first season of this group together playing against teams that have had multiple years together to develop chemistry.

If the coach was holding them back as much as some of you seem to believe then why the hysterics and desire to change it all up once again instead of let the core develop even more.

It's a few things

- Is KAT a great enough player to overcome his flaws on the defensive end?
- Can Brunson also overcome his defensive flaws?
- Are OG and Mikal still young and athletic enough to defend at the highest level? If there are younger, more athletic, and more physically gifted players than them now, do OG and Mikal have the smarts and experience to overcome any level of disadvantage on that end.
- Has Josh Hart played so beyond his abilities that he has overloaded his knees? Can he overcome his fear of shooting when left wide open? Can he still improve his game or is he at his absolute best at this point and is it only downhill for him from here?
- Do our rookies Dadiet, Kolek, and Hukporti have the talent to become legitimate rotation players in their 2nd year? Or were all 3 of them busts?
- Do Deuce and Mitch have another gear left in them, or have we already seen their best at this point?
- If one more year makes our team better, can't the dame be said about most rosters in the league, especially ones with younger players than ours?

We got 6 days until the NBA Draft. We should hire a coach before then. A lot of the questions we have will depend on whether the coach we bring in believes in this current roster, or if we need to make moves to fit the coach.

[thebuzzardman]

This is a roster that you add pieces to, definitely.

This roster lacks a legitimate shooting guard.

Hart - plays like a PF
Mikal - his wing skills are those of a SF
Deuce - undersized combo guard

Knicks needs to address this

This is one of the biggest challenges with the roster, although it’s possible it’s something we can work around.

Given the price we paid for Mikal/OG, and the roster limitations that resulted from it, it sucks that we need to play one of them out of position. Their talent isn’t high end enough to offset it.

OG was worth it
Mikal isn't