Stein/Fischer: Toronto willing to deal RJ Barrett, IQ, Poeltl for Significant Upgrades // #9 Available

[RaptorPride]

I honestly think kick the tires on Trae Young.

He's gonna opt out next summer and leave Atlanta.

Buy low candidate - acquire him and extend with his bird rights.

One of the best playmakers in the league and pretty durable - would do wonders for this team.

I firmly believe you don't win anything with Trae Young as one of your main pieces, and want absolutely nothing to do with him.

Because of his defence? I think we can win with him just gotta get great interior defence for him.

The man takes 18 shots and still averages 12 ast a game. His play making is best in the league. But the thing is he is not a shooter but a scorer.

[bobbyp3588]

I honestly think kick the tires on Trae Young.

He's gonna opt out next summer and leave Atlanta.

Buy low candidate - acquire him and extend with his bird rights.

One of the best playmakers in the league and pretty durable - would do wonders for this team.

I firmly believe you don't win anything with Trae Young as one of your main pieces, and want absolutely nothing to do with him.

Because of his defence? I think we can win with him just gotta get great interior defence for him.

The man takes 18 shots and still averages 12 ast a game. His play making is best in the league. But the thing is he is not a shooter but a scorer.

Agreed - want nothing to do with Trae. Fake all star if ever there was one. Not even going to argue it, if you disagree I’ll agree to disagree, but Trae will never win anything meaningful in the NBA. You couldn’t pay me to take him. DO NOT WANT.

[anotherhomer]

Masai would want a big salary number and his performance for the past several years does not warrant that. Rogers are coming in as the new majority owners and would want to see some results, especially when Ed Rogers wasn't high on Masai even after winning a championship.

Let's just hope Masai doesnt do anything stupid/shortsighted to hurt us longterm.

Masai may be LA bound…

I doubt Masai is doing this for his own job. The guy will have a job if he wants one. Rogers will want to see results, Tannenbaum will want the highest valuation…. think it through for a bit.

i don't think he's going to LA Lakers

[RaptorPride]

I firmly believe you don't win anything with Trae Young as one of your main pieces, and want absolutely nothing to do with him.

Because of his defence? I think we can win with him just gotta get great interior defence for him.

The man takes 18 shots and still averages 12 ast a game. His play making is best in the league. But the thing is he is not a shooter but a scorer.

Agreed - want nothing to do with Trae. Fake all star if ever there was one. Not even going to argue it, if you disagree I’ll agree to disagree, but Trae will never win anything meaningful in the NBA. You couldn’t pay me to take him. DO NOT WANT.

No that's fair. You literally gotta make sure every player on the team fits him to win, which is a crazy task.
And I'm not sure how many teams have won a ring with the PG being their best player especially one as small as him.

[LoveMyRaps]

Because of his defence? I think we can win with him just gotta get great interior defence for him.

The man takes 18 shots and still averages 12 ast a game. His play making is best in the league. But the thing is he is not a shooter but a scorer.

Agreed - want nothing to do with Trae. Fake all star if ever there was one. Not even going to argue it, if you disagree I’ll agree to disagree, but Trae will never win anything meaningful in the NBA. You couldn’t pay me to take him. DO NOT WANT.

No that's fair. You literally gotta make sure every player on the team fits him to win, which is a crazy task.
And I'm not sure how many teams have won a ring with the PG being their best player especially one as small as him.

He can be our Hali.

[RaptorPride]

Agreed - want nothing to do with Trae. Fake all star if ever there was one. Not even going to argue it, if you disagree I’ll agree to disagree, but Trae will never win anything meaningful in the NBA. You couldn’t pay me to take him. DO NOT WANT.

No that's fair. You literally gotta make sure every player on the team fits him to win, which is a crazy task.
And I'm not sure how many teams have won a ring with the PG being their best player especially one as small as him.

He can be our Hali.

Yea that's the reason I said I would like to take a chance on him. His playmaking might lowkey be better than Hali which is why I think he is underrated. But the criticism on him is fair.

[LoveMyRaps]

No that's fair. You literally gotta make sure every player on the team fits him to win, which is a crazy task.
And I'm not sure how many teams have won a ring with the PG being their best player especially one as small as him.

He can be our Hali.

Yea that's the reason I said I would like to take a chance on him. His playmaking might lowkey be better than Hali which is why I think he is underrated. But the criticism on him is fair.

No doubt, I'm pretty critical of him as well. But tbf, he's been surrounded with junk for most of his career and is still only 26.

[TGM]

[quote="bobbyp3588"][quote="RaptorPride"][quote="FOB"]

I firmly believe you don't win anything with Trae Young as one of your main pieces, and want absolutely nothing to do with him.[/quote]
Because of his defence? I think we can win with him just gotta get great interior defence for him.

The man takes 18 shots and still averages 12 ast a game. His play making is best in the league. But the thing is he is not a shooter but a scorer.[/quote]

Agreed - want nothing to do with Trae. Fake all star if ever there was one. Not even going to argue it, if you disagree I’ll agree to disagree, but Trae will never win anything meaningful in the NBA. You couldn’t pay me to take him. DO NOT WANT.[/quote]


Yeah not crazy about Young. He falls sort of in that LaMelo category. Is a bit streaky and not super efficient. I feel a guy like Trae only works well if you have a dominant inside scoring and defensive presence to complement.

Like if Dame and Giannis ain’t winning a championship, not sure how you can do it with Trae or LaMelo. Really just gives fans more an entertaining player with some charisma, but nothing more than 2nd round exits at best.

[CPT]

My OFFICIAL 2026 Toronto Raptors lineup prediction:

Shead / Lawson
Ingram / Monk
Durant / Agbaji
Scottie / Battle
Embiid / Castleton

Who did we take with the #3 pick?

[MoneyBall]

No that's fair. You literally gotta make sure every player on the team fits him to win, which is a crazy task.
And I'm not sure how many teams have won a ring with the PG being their best player especially one as small as him.

He can be our Hali.

Yea that's the reason I said I would like to take a chance on him. His playmaking might lowkey be better than Hali which is why I think he is underrated. But the criticism on him is fair.

I would like to see him next to one or two good complimentary players. Scottie would instantly be the best player he's ever played with in his career.

His defense is one of the worst in the league, though. There's no easy fix for that.

[MoneyBall]

Masai really really likes Poeltl.

And so should you

I've always liked Poeltl. His zero ability to make outside shots is a huge weakness in the modern NBA, though.

[OakleyDokely]

I'm all for the maximum chaos option. Poeltl+KD+Ingram+Barnes...who the hell knows if that will work, but I'm willing to watch to find out.

[Tripod]

This year's team genuinely loved playing with and for one another. You could see it on the court and bench regardless if they were tying to lose or not. And BI fit into that as well as a cheerleader.

I personally hope we get to see how that carries over to next year when wins are the only goal. And meshing as a team can go a long way in getting extra wins.

I hope we don't lose that "closeness" if they make a deal for a "name".

Draft at 9, get a reliable backup C, add a 905 piece at #39 and I would be quite happy with our offseason.

[Mr Funk]

We're not trading the 9th pick and we're not pursuing Morant. Windhorst has zero sources from the Raptors because we generally don't leak anything.

Poeltl, RJ, Agbaji and our 2026 1st could be used in a potential Durant trade. Those three players will become much more expend soon and are probably not in management's long term plans.

Windhorst was the main one all over Kawhi to Raptors in 2018. I think he has good intel when it comes to Raptors.

Here's an article where Windy said Raptors were in driving seat for Kawhi over other teams days before it happened. It was basically Windy and Tim Bontemps. https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/report-raptors-made-compelling-offer-kawhi-leonard-011059484.html

Those leaks are from rival general managers looking to drive up offers for their assets. Phoenix likely told Windhorst that we're offering the 9th pick in order try to to increase trade proposals from San Anotonio, Miami etc.

The Raptors don't leak and our front office is always pursuing optionality and flexibility and wouldn't constrain themselves by trading the 9th pick.

[mtcan]

This year's team genuinely loved playing with and for one another. You could see it on the court and bench regardless if they were tying to lose or not. And BI fit into that as well as a cheerleader.

I personally hope we get to see how that carries over to next year when wins are the only goal. And meshing as a team can go a long way in getting extra wins.

I hope we don't lose that "closeness" if they make a deal for a "name".

Draft at 9, get a reliable backup C, add a 905 piece at #39 and I would be quite happy with our offseason.

I really just want to keep that #9 pick. I'm fine entering the season with what we have. I would like to have some clarity on our young guards and would like some certainty on role and minutes for Gradey, Jakobe and Ochai. I like them all but I don't know that we can give all 3 the minutes they need and deserve.

[dTox]

Masai would want a big salary number and his performance for the past several years does not warrant that. Rogers are coming in as the new majority owners and would want to see some results, especially when Ed Rogers wasn't high on Masai even after winning a championship.

Let's just hope Masai doesnt do anything stupid/shortsighted to hurt us longterm.

Masai may be LA bound…

I doubt Masai is doing this for his own job. The guy will have a job if he wants one. Rogers will want to see results, Tannenbaum will want the highest valuation…. think it through for a bit.

i don't think he's going to LA Lakers

Yah LA isn't going to let go of Pelinka, they just extended him earlier this season too, the man is beloved in LA.

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[ArthurVandelay]

This year's team genuinely loved playing with and for one another. You could see it on the court and bench regardless if they were tying to lose or not. And BI fit into that as well as a cheerleader.

I personally hope we get to see how that carries over to next year when wins are the only goal. And meshing as a team can go a long way in getting extra wins.

I hope we don't lose that "closeness" if they make a deal for a "name".

Draft at 9, get a reliable backup C, add a 905 piece at #39 and I would be quite happy with our offseason.

I've been thinking about that idea of late as well. Has to be a wake up call for the young guys. And if guys are back next year, I hope the resentment of the business doesn't sour the vibe. Many aren't a fan of Darko, personally I think he is better than he has shown because except for a 15 game stretch starting in January it didn't seem like wins mattered, but one thing I don't think anyone can deny is the positivity he has brought to the team atmosphere after NN.

[Duffman100]

I'm all for the maximum chaos option. Poeltl+KD+Ingram+Barnes...who the hell knows if that will work, but I'm willing to watch to find out.

It would truly be interesting to watch Barnes go from #1 option to having Ingram and Durant taking the pressure off.

[Clutch0z24]

This year's team genuinely loved playing with and for one another. You could see it on the court and bench regardless if they were tying to lose or not. And BI fit into that as well as a cheerleader.

I personally hope we get to see how that carries over to next year when wins are the only goal. And meshing as a team can go a long way in getting extra wins.

I hope we don't lose that "closeness" if they make a deal for a "name".

Draft at 9, get a reliable backup C, add a 905 piece at #39 and I would be quite happy with our offseason.

I've been thinking about that idea of late as well. Has to be a wake up call for the young guys. And if guys are back next year, I hope the resentment of the business doesn't sour the vibe. Many aren't a fan of Darko, personally I think he is better than he has shown because except for a 15 game stretch starting in January it didn't seem like wins mattered, but one thing I don't think anyone can deny is the positivity he has brought to the team atmosphere after NN.

Maybe Masai valuated this team and realizes it does not have a chance to actually win....And Masai is pretty smart when it comes to that....Maybe he knows if he runs it back even with the 9th pick the chances to be a legit winner is slim to none....And thats why we are having all this talk and trades this offseason.....Could be coming from pressure from the higher ups but if Masai was actually confident in the current team actually winning i doubt he would be trying to trade for someone....

[djsunyc]

This year's team genuinely loved playing with and for one another. You could see it on the court and bench regardless if they were tying to lose or not. And BI fit into that as well as a cheerleader.

I personally hope we get to see how that carries over to next year when wins are the only goal. And meshing as a team can go a long way in getting extra wins.

I hope we don't lose that "closeness" if they make a deal for a "name".

Draft at 9, get a reliable backup C, add a 905 piece at #39 and I would be quite happy with our offseason.

I've been thinking about that idea of late as well. Has to be a wake up call for the young guys. And if guys are back next year, I hope the resentment of the business doesn't sour the vibe. Many aren't a fan of Darko, personally I think he is better than he has shown because except for a 15 game stretch starting in January it didn't seem like wins mattered, but one thing I don't think anyone can deny is the positivity he has brought to the team atmosphere after NN.

everyone loved demar and were devastated when he got dealt but it raised the bar and told the players that we are expecting bigger things. pascal lost his buddy too. i dont see a negative either way. these players revere kd - it would be like playing with their hero.