Trades and Transactions 2025 continued x2

[Jeffrey]

I don't understand the logic behind this though. Raptors are not a win now team.

i guess they think they will be with durant, ingram, barnes. might be good enough to make the playoffs.

Ingram hasn't played over 65 games since his rookie year. Oof.

If I'm the Nets, I would trade the 19th pick, future 2nd and scoop up RJ. Why? His contract will have value next year if Nets dont' see him as part of a long-term plan.

[ctorres]

I stopped caring about the draft years ago. wasted energy

Cynicism is so contagious on here

This forum used to love talking about the draft regardless of what pick we had

this regime don’t really gaf bout the draft unfortunately

I don't know man. A lot of good players were drafted under Leon.

2021 to 2023, we had Quickley, Toppin, Grimes, McBride, and Sims all on the roster at the same time

Then last year we drafted Dadiet, Kolek, Hukporti, and McCullar (traded for him the day of the draft)

A few others I'm missing probably.

I could go on, but I feel like we do actually care about the draft and I think Leon cares about getting the most value out of the players we get.

[spree2kawhi]

I think we’re getting DiVincenzo back via Phoenix. They don’t need him with Beal and Booker, but McBride could be their guy.

Huh? Did I miss something?

no. people are just obsessed with donte.

Durant will be with the Wolves next week. They’re not giving up McDaniels but DiVincenzo. You’ll see.

[KnixinSix]

Some of yall act like the Knicks weren't a game 1 meltdown away from being in the finals but lost the play-in game or something.

Only the first season of this group together playing against teams that have had multiple years together to develop chemistry.

If the coach was holding them back as much as some of you seem to believe then why the hysterics and desire to change it all up once again instead of let the core develop even more.

It's a few things

- Is KAT a great enough player to overcome his flaws on the defensive end?
- Can Brunson also overcome his defensive flaws?
- Are OG and Mikal still young and athletic enough to defend at the highest level? If there are younger, more athletic, and more physically gifted players than them now, do OG and Mikal have the smarts and experience to overcome any level of disadvantage on that end.
- Has Josh Hart played so beyond his abilities that he has overloaded his knees? Can he overcome his fear of shooting when left wide open? Can he still improve his game or is he at his absolute best at this point and is it only downhill for him from here?
- Do our rookies Dadiet, Kolek, and Hukporti have the talent to become legitimate rotation players in their 2nd year? Or were all 3 of them busts?
- Do Deuce and Mitch have another gear left in them, or have we already seen their best at this point?
- If one more year makes our team better, can't the dame be said about most rosters in the league, especially ones with younger players than ours?

We got 6 days until the NBA Draft. We should hire a coach before then. A lot of the questions we have will depend on whether the coach we bring in believes in this current roster, or if we need to make moves to fit the coach.

Some good questions. Ill add another:

If an opportunity to improve your roster construction is staring you in the face (to potentially help address some of the very things you posted above) do you say 'nah we are good' just for the sake of continuity?

[KnixinSix]

Huh? Did I miss something?

no. people are just obsessed with donte.

Durant will be with the Wolves next week. They’re not giving up McDaniels but DiVincenzo. You’ll see.

That would not surprise me. I think the Knicks value Divo more than McBride for the current roster construction. Also their MLE will probably make up partially for the loss of his defense.

[KnixinSix]

Some of yall act like the Knicks weren't a game 1 meltdown away from being in the finals but lost the play-in game or something.

Only the first season of this group together playing against teams that have had multiple years together to develop chemistry.

If the coach was holding them back as much as some of you seem to believe then why the hysterics and desire to change it all up once again instead of let the core develop even more.

Team is very very good but they need at minimum to deal with the C position to give it more defensive stability.

Also if an opportunity presents itself to improve the team do you ignore it saying nah we are good enough as is? Those are the two key components here....

No one said don't try to improve the team when opportunity knocks. You're in here looking to trade away core players for guys who aren't available or a lesser package because Mitch. We're saying why? If the next HC wants to blow it up, that's a different story though but, the FO committed a lot of assets and money to build this team. It's safe to say they aren't gonna break it up one year later. They fired the HC because he couldn't make it work. Pretty sure they're looking for a HC that can.

Almost all scenarios I presented keep our top 2 and trade just one of either Mikal or OG

You have to give something to get something. And we keep 3 of our top 4. That certainly is not 'blowing up the core'.

So we maintain continuity for the most part while improving the team. Thats called ideal roster building.

[KnixinSix]

I think we’re getting DiVincenzo back via Phoenix. They don’t need him with Beal and Booker, but McBride could be their guy.

McBride would be a significantly better fit for their roster construction. They even are quoted saying they hope the trade benefits Beal.

[KnixinSix]

Based on the price Orlando paid for Bane, could we see a 3-team trade with the Kings that looks something like this:

Kings acquire Anunoby for Monk, DeRozan, and 3 1st rd picks - SAC 26 (unprotected), better of SAC/SAS 27 (unprotected), MIN 31 (unprotected)

The 2026 SAC pick is flipped to Utah for Walker Kessler. Utah also gets swap rights for the 27 SAC pick with the 2nd least valuable of UTA/MIN/CLE/LAL in 27.

DeRozan is routed to Dallas with Klay Thompson going to NY.

NYK:
Brunson-Thompson-Bridges-Towns-Kessler
McBride-Monk-Hart-Robinson

Plus a 27 and 31 1st recouped

Would love to replace Thompson with a younger 3 and D wing but couldn’t think of one at that salary slot, but that’s what the extra picks are for.

Not giving up a 4 year controlled OG for lesser parts.

[BKlutch]

Wiretap:

The Phoenix Suns' attempts to trade Kevin Durant are not progressing as fast as the team hoped, according to Marc Stein of The Stein Line and Jake Fischer of The People's Insider.

The Rockets and Spurs don't feel a need to include several assets for Durant due to having a younger core, while the Timberwolves' interest remains in flux.

Durant also reportedly has no interest in joining Minnesota.

The Suns, who were looking to have completed a trade before the draft, could extend talks past June 25.

The Heat, Spurs, and Rockets are Durant's preferred trade destinations.

What a shame. I'm sure if Giannis were equally available, there'd be a bidding war.

[ctorres]

I think we’re getting DiVincenzo back via Phoenix. They don’t need him with Beal and Booker, but McBride could be their guy.

McBride would be a significantly better fit for their roster construction. They even are quoted saying they hope the trade benefits Beal.

McBride's salary is too low to use in a trade for DiVincenzo. I think we would have to use Mitch in the trade.

Apron rules have me so confused on sign and trades. So I don't know in what scenarios we are allowed to use guys like Achiuwa, Shamet, Payne, Tucker, McCullar, etc. in a trade

[KnixinSix]

I think we’re getting DiVincenzo back via Phoenix. They don’t need him with Beal and Booker, but McBride could be their guy.

McBride would be a significantly better fit for their roster construction. They even are quoted saying they hope the trade benefits Beal.

McBride's salary is too low to use in a trade for DiVincenzo. I think we would have to use Mitch in the trade.

Apron rules have me so confused on sign and trades. So I don't know in what scenarios we are allowed to use guys like Achiuwa, Shamet, Payne, Tucker, McCullar, etc. in a trade

McBride (4.3) + Dadiet (2.8) + Kolek (2.2) + PJ (3.6) ....only 1 of those guys got meaningful playing time last year.

[KnixinSix]

Wiretap:

The Phoenix Suns' attempts to trade Kevin Durant are not progressing as fast as the team hoped, according to Marc Stein of The Stein Line and Jake Fischer of The People's Insider.

The Rockets and Spurs don't feel a need to include several assets for Durant due to having a younger core, while the Timberwolves' interest remains in flux.

Durant also reportedly has no interest in joining Minnesota.

The Suns, who were looking to have completed a trade before the draft, could extend talks past June 25.

The Heat, Spurs, and Rockets are Durant's preferred trade destinations.

What a shame. I'm sure if Giannis were equally available, there'd be a bidding war.

Depends on if ownership is going to send Giannis where HE wants to go....

[ctorres]

McBride would be a significantly better fit for their roster construction. They even are quoted saying they hope the trade benefits Beal.

McBride's salary is too low to use in a trade for DiVincenzo. I think we would have to use Mitch in the trade.

Apron rules have me so confused on sign and trades. So I don't know in what scenarios we are allowed to use guys like Achiuwa, Shamet, Payne, Tucker, McCullar, etc. in a trade

McBride (4.3) + Dadiet (2.8) + Kolek (2.2) + PJ (3.6) ....only 1 of those guys got meaningful playing time last year.

I am confused as to why fanspo and spotrac dont have Tucker's contract available to use in a trade

[KnixinSix]

McBride's salary is too low to use in a trade for DiVincenzo. I think we would have to use Mitch in the trade.

Apron rules have me so confused on sign and trades. So I don't know in what scenarios we are allowed to use guys like Achiuwa, Shamet, Payne, Tucker, McCullar, etc. in a trade

McBride (4.3) + Dadiet (2.8) + Kolek (2.2) + PJ (3.6) ....only 1 of those guys got meaningful playing time last year.

I am confused as to why fanspo and spotrac dont have Tucker's contract available to use in a trade

Tucker has a team option of 3.4 or 3.6 M (its listed on Hoopshype)....

[ctorres]

McBride (4.3) + Dadiet (2.8) + Kolek (2.2) + PJ (3.6) ....only 1 of those guys got meaningful playing time last year.

I am confused as to why fanspo and spotrac dont have Tucker's contract available to use in a trade

Tucker has a team option of 3.4 or 3.6 M (its listed on Hoopshype)....

if that's the case, then I think we're trading all those guys for DiVincenzo.

[Fury]

I don’t think we should trade Deuce for Divo anymore. We’d have no backcourt defense.

[Richard4444]

I think we’re getting DiVincenzo back via Phoenix. They don’t need him with Beal and Booker, but McBride could be their guy.

Huh? Did I miss something?

no. people are just obsessed with donte.

I like Donte. ~

But, are we sure Donte is better than Deuce considering their salaries and payroll/flexibility issues.

[ezmoney707]

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[JayTWill]

McBride's salary is too low to use in a trade for DiVincenzo. I think we would have to use Mitch in the trade.

Apron rules have me so confused on sign and trades. So I don't know in what scenarios we are allowed to use guys like Achiuwa, Shamet, Payne, Tucker, McCullar, etc. in a trade

McBride (4.3) + Dadiet (2.8) + Kolek (2.2) + PJ (3.6) ....only 1 of those guys got meaningful playing time last year.

I am confused as to why fanspo and spotrac dont have Tucker's contract available to use in a trade

His contract is listed in the CH(Cap Hold) section not the roster section although i'm not sure if using him in a sign and trade triggers a cap at the first apron for the team he is sent to. I can't find the sign and trade rules at the moment.

Edit - I believe he has a team option of $3.4M this year but Fanspo reduces the contract down to $2.2M when you try to accept the team option for some reason.

[mpharris36]

I don’t think we should trade Deuce for Divo anymore. We’d have no backcourt defense.

Deuce POA defense is really important...I really think without Thibs we should be more amendable to starting deuce next to Brunson...keeps Mikal off the POA defense put Deuce on and gives us more shooting with the starters.

Hart then goes to his best role and a super 6th man with energy off the bench.

I'm not doing cap gymnastics just to get Divo back here.