Build a Franchise (Season 8) Discussion Thread- Philadelphia is now on the clock until 4PM

[Busta Bucket]

For the record, however the rule is interpreted/crafted I don’t expect to take advantage of it. Fortunately, the previous Celtics owner left me with a pretty clean cap sheet. That said, I do feel for Mecca and I think that something like what he’s proposing is a good idea. I’ll officially be voting “present.”

[Im Coming Home]

If it's truly because you care about the health of the game and not for yourself you would be fine with the rule only applying going forward. Put your money where your mouth is.

[Context]

To be fair that's a hard situation to deal from. No capital to get off of bad contracts and can't receive much value either.

I'm getting no bites to clear off $30 bucks from solid young guys with people with a lot of money so

This what no one's realizing bro. Not a single trade-able asset or pick when I joined

I've traded worse and seen worse.

[Mecca]

If it's truly because you care about the health of the game and not for yourself you would be fine with the rule only applying going forward. Put your money where your mouth is.

It's for the health of the league to have an active Mecca

[Im Coming Home]

It’s definitely possible to move off bad contracts. Ask about me for DSJ and Josh Jackson lol

Yup, bad contracts get moved all the damn time in this game, GMs are addicted to trading in this game and it happens all the time.

Mecca be like:

Watch on YouTube

[Mecca]

If we want to make it only for new gm's going forward fine

[3toheadmelo]

It’s definitely possible to move off bad contracts. Ask about me for DSJ and Josh Jackson lol

You had assets to give and they were young

Bruh they were complete busts lol


And you have mad assets
2026 1st
2026 2nd

2027 1st
2027 2nd

2028 1st
2028 2nd


I also moved off Nunn and Oladipo after giving them 4 year deals. It might take a while but you can absolutely move bad contracts.

[Mecca]

It’s definitely possible to move off bad contracts. Ask about me for DSJ and Josh Jackson lol

Yup, bad contracts get moved all the damn time in this game, GMs are addicted to trading in this game and it happens all the time.

Mecca be like:

Watch on YouTube

No one was touching Jonas, Smart, DLo

[Im Coming Home]

Mecca maybe try making fair trade proposals instead of lopsided ones and maybe someone will accept your deals.

I won't say what deal you sent me a few days ago was but my God man you could not have been serious.

[2010]

Considering rules have always been expected to be voted on as they’re written up and proposed…

I’ve got to vote NO.

With the amount of suggested amendments to language, pivoting from a full amnesty, to shaving a year off, subtracting a dollar figure, to stretch provisions, etc.

It all just underscores the rule (as it’s currently written — and is attempting to be rewritten — in real time) shouldn’t pass. If any amendment is to be made, it would be best if it’s rewritten and reproposed for next season’s rule change cycle (Season 10).

Considering every GM who has spoken would be in favor of Busta Bucket being a positive beneficiary of this proposed rule, I do not believe it will hurt his inaugural ownership of the Celtics, considering he doesn’t have a single bad long-term contract on his roster. Jimmy Butler has an inflated yearly salary but it’s an expiring and he’s still a productive player. Which equates to it being a positive asset that can be moved in the right deal, to the right trade partner.

While I do sympathize with Mecca’s less than ideal ownership situation, the rule must be voted on as it was proposed for this rule submission cycle.

[Capn'O]

If you're gonna have an amnesty just have an amnesty. This "recent" GMs thing is too muddy. Terrence Clarke inherited some absolute BS but he's (iirc) three years in so he doesn't get one?

It's either for the actual new GMs or for everyone.

[SOUL]

I think people are being pedantic a bit with Mecca. Nobody is saying you literally CAN'T make moves, I'm sure if you PMd people everyday for a month straight you could move off of one of those contracts, and maybe get some wiggle room, but nobody was giving real value for any of those guys outside of maybe LeVert. Other GMs have maneuvered out of bad spots, but that was a uniquely **** situation to be in.

There is just an inherent inbalance in taking over teams that could be in great or **** spots. Every team inherited is not a 1:1:1 bad situation. The thing is though in a keeper league, there will be unfairness unless things are wiped clean. This upcoming offseason though will have the most turnover since I joined the league for sure though.

[3toheadmelo]

It’s definitely possible to move off bad contracts. Ask about me for DSJ and Josh Jackson lol

Yup, bad contracts get moved all the damn time in this game, GMs are addicted to trading in this game and it happens all the time.

Mecca be like:

Watch on YouTube

I don’t wanna get involved in any beef or anything. Mecca is a good dude and I don’t have anything bad to say about him. But I do think it’s possible to move off bad contracts, no matter how bad it is. The Josh Jackson contract was probably the worst in the league at the time. And if I remember correctly 2010 took on the raptors with bad contracts and no picks and look where he is now.

[Im Coming Home]

Sorry Mecca I may have been too harsh. Just something about someone proposing a rule that is very obviously greatly beneficial for themselves but saying it's under the guise of the health of the game just kinda got me heated is all. I apologize.

[DOT]

If you're gonna have an amnesty just have an amnesty. This "recent" GMs thing is too muddy. Terrence Clarke inherited some absolute BS but he's (iirc) three years in so he doesn't get one?

It's either for the actual new GMs or for everyone.

Then let's just propose it for everyone

If you take over a team going forward, you get an absolute amnesty to any contract you inherited until the offseason is over

Everyone else gets to void 1 year of a deal of a guy they have on their team 1 time this offseason, let's just say until the draft is over and it can't be someone they trade for after right now.

[Context]

It’s definitely possible to move off bad contracts. Ask about me for DSJ and Josh Jackson lol

Yup, bad contracts get moved all the damn time in this game, GMs are addicted to trading in this game and it happens all the time.

Mecca be like:

Watch on YouTube

No one was touching Jonas, Smart, DLo

can you share some of those offers?

[Mecca]

Yup, bad contracts get moved all the damn time in this game, GMs are addicted to trading in this game and it happens all the time.

Mecca be like:

Watch on YouTube

No one was touching Jonas, Smart, DLo

can you share some of those offers?

Later bc i'm at the gym

[Context]

I'm straight up saying I'll accept making it that you can just clip a year from the deal and still have to cut him or just stretch the deal.

The way this is set up is not fair

I can list a lot more things that wasnt and not fair.

[SOUL]

Speakin of... still dangling Jarace Walker, Terrance Shannon, Tristan da Silva for very little draft capital, cheap contracts back...

[mpharris36]

The simple solution in my eyes would just be the re-prepose the rule next offseason for new 1st year GM's in there first offseason. I think you would nearly get 100% on board with that rule. The "newer" vagueness and teams 3-4 years in the league having the ability if you maintained a stagnant contract doesn't make sense to me but I think I have already made my point. As 2010 said Bish in the past says we have to vote for the rule "as is" so we will just have to make a tweak on the wording next year.

I think the premise behind the rule is solid for the 1st time just acquiring team GM's.

Also I legit never thought Brandon Ingram would ever bee traded with a $565 contract.

I think Remi and I both were able to trade Frank Ntilikina at one point and he was making $170 contract. It can be done.