Who falls the furthest?

louc1970 · Post #1 » by **louc1970** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 2:56 pm

The top 5 are projected to be:
Flagg
Harper
Bailey
Edgecombe
Johnson

Of these who do you think falls out of the top 5?

ReggiesKnicks · Post #2 » by **ReggiesKnicks** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 3:44 pm

Edgecombe or Johnson

SkyHook · Post #3 » by **SkyHook** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 4:06 pm

ReggiesKnicks wrote:Edgecombe or Johnson

Agreed. If Bailey falls past four I still expect Utah to pick him, but hopefully as part of a deal to move him for value.

MasterIchiro · Post #4 » by **MasterIchiro** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 5:19 pm

Tre Johnson falls furthest.

Should be Edgecombe though.

BigGargamel · Post #5 » by **BigGargamel** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 7:11 pm

I have a feeling Maluach is going to end up in the top five, with Johnson falling out. "Falling out" meaning Washington probably takes him at 6.

babyjax13 · Post #6 » by **babyjax13** » Mon Jun 9, 2025 10:31 pm

It sounds like Brooklyn is trying to move up for Fears. My bet is that Charlotte would be the most willing to do that under the assumption that either VJ drops or that they are good with Maluach or someone else other than VJ. So I will say VJ drops to 6 or 7 if Brooklyn moves up.

76ciology · Post #7 » by **76ciology** » Tue Jun 10, 2025 4:42 am

Bailey. I even think he’s getting negative momentum now.

JMAC3 · Post #8 » by **JMAC3** » Tue Jun 10, 2025 5:09 am

It is too early to say, basically whoever gets the latest negative story about a workout, interview etc the week of the draft. Ace Bailey might be falling now as people are bored and falling in love with other prospects like Tre Johnson or Fears etc... but I expect by the time the draft arrives in 2 weeks people will have talked themselves back into him.

A lot of the same reasons people are low on Ace apply to Tre Johnson, but he is the new flavor and rising. Examples, both guys struggled a lot to get to the rim, both guys have weaker frames, both guys struggled with shot selection..

EMG518 · Post #9 » by **EMG518** » Tue Jun 10, 2025 6:03 am

I think we can rule out Flagg or Harper dropping out of the top 5.

Anyone's guess after that.

EvanZ · Post #10 » by **EvanZ** » Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:12 pm

Can make a case for anyone. Why are people so down on VJ all of a sudden?

babyjax13 · Post #11 » by **babyjax13** » Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:51 pm

EvanZ wrote:Can make a case for anyone. Why are people so down on VJ all of a sudden?

I just have him the lowest in my top-5 and have for a while. I'm not sure anyone in the top-5 (which I have as Flagg/Harper + Bailey/Johnson/VJ in some order) actually drops, though.

sodmoraes · Post #12 » by **sodmoraes** » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:13 pm

I think VJ ceiling is limited. His offensive game would have to improve a lot( dribbling, shooting off the dribble) so he could be an allstar. He will be a good player, but i wouldnt pick him top 3. Bailey may have a lot of flaws but you can see some offensive skills of him already there, that are hard to find.

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louc1970 · Post #13 » by **louc1970** » Thu Jun 19, 2025 4:24 pm

Just checking in as we get closer to the draft.

babyjax13 · Post #14 » by **babyjax13** » Fri Jun 20, 2025 8:44 am

louc1970 wrote:Just checking in as we get closer to the draft.

Seems like we are getting some answers. VJ will not, Ace has a decent chance to drop.

azcatz11 · Post #15 » by **azcatz11** » Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:46 pm

babyjax13 wrote:
louc1970 wrote:Just checking in as we get closer to the draft.

Seems like we are getting some answers. VJ will not, Ace has a decent chance to drop.

Vecenie is concerned about his lack of touch around the rim for a guard. His layup percentage is atrocious

babyjax13 · Post #16 » by **babyjax13** » Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:49 pm

azcatz11 wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:
louc1970 wrote:Just checking in as we get closer to the draft.

Seems like we are getting some answers. VJ will not, Ace has a decent chance to drop.

Vecenie is concerned about his lack of touch around the rim for a guard. His layup percentage is atrocious

I am not super high on him, I think he is in the tier with Maluach and Kneuppel, below Fears, Bailey, etc. I see someone in the role of D'Anthony Melton but a better 3 point shooter.

JRoy · Post #17 » by **JRoy** » Yesterday 12:30 am

Bailey.

What is he hiding?

Catchall · Post #18 » by **Catchall** » Yesterday 6:14 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:Tre Johnson falls furthest.

Should be Edgecombe though.

Tre Johnson shouldn’t fall past Utah at 5. I think they’ll take Ace, VJ or Tre, whichever falls to them.

Catchall · Post #19 » by **Catchall** » Yesterday 6:19 pm

babyjax13 wrote:It sounds like Brooklyn is trying to move up for Fears. My bet is that Charlotte would be the most willing to do that under the assumption that either VJ drops or that they are good with Maluach or someone else other than VJ. So I will say VJ drops to 6 or 7 if Brooklyn moves up.

Charlotte likely won’t trade out of 4 unless VJ goes 3. Hornets would be expected to take VJ at 4.

The most likely guy to break into the top 5 is Fears, as teams in the 6-8 range like him. That would then push either Ace or Tre to 6 or 7.

KembaWalker · Post #20 » by **KembaWalker** » Yesterday 6:55 pm

JRoy wrote:Bailey.

What is he hiding?

himself from going to Charlotte