bpcox05 wrote:LightTheBeam wrote:bpcox05 wrote:
I find it highly unlikely Vivek would allow us to tank so I see this plan as unrealistic.
Probably not, but the fact they are taking calls on Sabonis supposedly, and Demar. James Ham was talking about it, but if you trade Sabonis its very unlikely you are going to get the better player. We finished under .500. Mavs, SPurs, Blazers, will all be better this year. The play-ins seem pretty much out of reach, short of trading for Durant.
Why sacrifice more assets to finish 12th, and then trade Sabonis after he asks out and hurts his value.
My hope is Perry/Vlade are convincing Vivek that was he's been doing is insane, and that the only way to build a long term team in Sacramento is at least do a 2 year reset. Also Murphy took a significant jump last year, he isn't a slouch. You are getting back a 6'8 2 way forward that just averaged 21/5/4. If he has another jump in him, hes easily going to be an all-star caliber player.
This rebuild doesn't have to take forever. Hell if they get lucky and get the #1 pick next year, they can already jump back on competing and they will have a ton of cap space to take on guys in trades.
I didn’t say we’d get the best player but the risk/reward in your proposal is just not there for the Kings.
Murphy is not an all star/all nba talent today. Sabonis is. Could Murphy grow into that player one day? Maybe, but what else are we getting to help offset that risk? It’s got to be #7 in my mind. That at least gives the Kings two shots at finding a player that can supplant Sabonis’ star talent.
That's the risk. I don't assume you are getting Murphy + #7 for someone like Domas. That's very rich proposal and either discounting Murphy, or overrating Sabonis IMO. You could probably take a lower level package like Memphis got for Bane, where you get 4 picks, but take on bad salary and you have no idea what you are getting + it takes several years to actually realize those picks. But #7 + Murphy is an immediate package.
The rumor I've been hearing is #7 + Herb. And for me, the prize in all this is Murphy, so I'd much rather Murphy + #23 over Herb + #7.
Either way when you trade Sabonis it at minimum suggests a semi reset. Even if you get Murphy + #7 you aren't expecting to be as good.