Kevin Durant

[BlacJacMac]

Wouldn’t Randle have to agree to opt-in then be traded? What motive does he have to help MIN get Durant?

If he doesn't opt-in, he's likely looking at getting the MLE somewhere.

Not a chance.

So Brooklyn is going to sign him if he opts out?

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If he doesn't opt-in, he's likely looking at getting the MLE somewhere.

Not a chance.

So Brooklyn is going to sign him if he opts out?

Sign and trades.

[Domejandro]

Not a chance.

So Brooklyn is going to sign him if he opts out?

Sign and trades.

Beyond this, I think Detroit would renounce free-agents to take a swing on Julius Randle at ~$20-24MM.

[BlacJacMac]

Not a chance.

So Brooklyn is going to sign him if he opts out?

Sign and trades.

Possible. But it needs to work for all 3 parties.

If he opts in and gets traded, he's still a FA next offseason when many more teams have money.

[Slim Tubby]

So Brooklyn is going to sign him if he opts out?

Sign and trades.

Beyond this, I think Detroit would renounce free-agents to take a swing on Julius Randle at ~$20-24MM.

Agreed...I think Randle would be a great fit in DET next to Duren or Angry Beef Stew.

As for KD, anything more than Randle, DDV and #17 is too rich for my liking. My thoughts on this might be different if he was pushing to come to MIN but not by much.

Including TSJ in any deal would be very disappointing. I'm convinced he can be a 20 PPG player in this league if given the opportunity.

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[younggunsmn]

Oh and shrink you need to be using 2025-26 salaries in your trades because before the moratorium it is going to be logistically nearly impossible to pull off a trade of that magnitude between 2 2nd apron teams with neither having the ability to aggregate.

Next year makes more sense to me too, but PHX has been adamant that they want Durant traded before the draft, so they can use the picks themselves. There is also a lot of smoke out there that the deal will happen in the next 48 hours. Plus, you’ll note that the pieces MIN put into this trade are all trade eligible right now, while the more logical choice for the trade, Julius Randle (and Naz, and NAW) aren’t in this offer. In fact, if you consider Ant and Jaden untouchable, this offer includes almost all of our currently tradable salary. Maybe that’s random, but I would like to hear of PHX is still pushing for an immediate offer.

Phoenix is using MN to try to get other teams to up their offers right now, that's all it is.
Durant doesnt want to be here, if we trade for him its franchise suicide.

[theGreatRC]

i'm full off the KD bandwagon..please do not trade for him.

Keep this core in tact and maaaaybe either trade Juilus or Rudy (or both) for an uprade at PG.

[GopherIt!]

TC is not emptying the cost controlled, youth cupboard for 1 year of a 37yo cupcake at $50M+, who doesn’t even want to be here.

[moretins]

i'm full off the KD bandwagon..please do not trade for him.

Keep this core in tact and maaaaybe either trade Juilus or Rudy (or both) for an uprade at PG.

I'd go for the best point guard available with Randle. And if the jump is big, including the picks, go for it.

[cmoss84]

The difference in salary between KD and Julius/DDV/RD is about $400k. I'd be perfectly happy with that, even if it is only for 1 year, as long as we keep all picks.

[moss_is_1]

The difference in salary between KD and Julius/DDV/RD is about $400k. I'd be perfectly happy with that, even if it is only for 1 year, as long as we keep all picks.

Yeah I think that would be fair. Losing Rob would suck, but we could potentially draft a replacement PG at 17 like Traore, Clayton or maybe Denim.

[jpatrick]

The difference in salary between KD and Julius/DDV/RD is about $400k. I'd be perfectly happy with that, even if it is only for 1 year, as long as we keep all picks.

I’d rather have DDV, Randle, and Dilly for 4-5 years than an unhappy KD for one with no way to replace him. He could easily leave and we get nothing in return. Half the league will have cap space in 2026, so very unlikely we’d get much, if anything, in a sign and trade. My fear would be our roster would be so depleted, no way to get Ant a #2, limited draft assets for the next several years, it could trigger a chain reaction with Ant asking out. Not saying that would happen, but it is possible.

Now if we can lock in KD for three years for a Randle, DDV, Dilly package, I’m willing to roll the dice. I wouldn't want to give up more though, and I’d hope that TC has a plan at point guard.

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It’s hard for me to look at a Durant package without thinking about the price of the pieces in picks

- Dillingham was got last year for a 2031 unprotected pick and a 2030 pick swap. His value has decreased since then, without much on-court success and one year less on his rookie scale deal.

- DiVincenzo was often listed on “Best Contracts in the NBA” list last off-season, at $12 mil per year for three years. Dillingham has slid back with a poor season, and one less cheap deal, but the size of his contract still has value. Jace Fredrick claimed he was the second highest trade value on the team, and Dane Moore said third, even now. They think he’s worth a couple 1sts.

- Julius Randle could be very valuable for some team this summer. 25 teams or more want to improve, so there aren’t a lot of sellers for a player of Randle’s caliber. Plus, the lack of cap space this summer might make him amenable to a cheaper extension. I think he’s worth a 1st or two as well.

Anyway, I understand what a good player Durant is, and I understand the goal is to win a championship. But if Durant doesn’t want to be here, I would only expect one professional season from him, and that would be a big asset haul to lose, especially since Dilly and DDV could gain value next season.

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It’s hard for me to look at a Durant package without thinking about the price of the pieces in picks

- Dillingham was got last year for a 2031 unprotected pick and a 2030 pick swap. His value has decreased since then, without much on-court success and one year less on his rookie scale deal.

- DiVincenzo was often listed on “Best Contracts in the NBA” list last off-season, at $12 mil per year for three years. Dillingham has slid back with a poor season, and one less cheap deal, but the size of his contract still has value. Jace Fredrick claimed he was the second highest trade value on the team, and Dane Moore said third, even now. They think he’s worth a couple 1sts.

- Julius Randle could be very valuable for some team this summer. 25 teams or more want to improve, so there aren’t a lot of sellers for a player of Randle’s caliber. Plus, the lack of cap space this summer might make him amenable to a cheaper extension. I think he’s worth a 1st or two as well.

Anyway, I understand what a good player Durant is, and I understand the goal is to win a championship. But if Durant doesn’t want to be here, I would only expect one professional season from him, and that would be a big asset haul to lose, especially since Dilly and DDV could gain value next season.

So at worst, you could trade for a Top 15 player of all time who is still putting up big numbers for roughly the same price as a 26year old who has never made all-NBA and never been an all-star and was just the third best player on an 8 seed. I'll go with Durant....

[shrink]

It’s hard for me to look at a Durant package without thinking about the price of the pieces in picks

- Dillingham was got last year for a 2031 unprotected pick and a 2030 pick swap. His value has decreased since then, without much on-court success and one year less on his rookie scale deal.

- DiVincenzo was often listed on “Best Contracts in the NBA” list last off-season, at $12 mil per year for three years. Dillingham has slid back with a poor season, and one less cheap deal, but the size of his contract still has value. Jace Fredrick claimed he was the second highest trade value on the team, and Dane Moore said third, even now. They think he’s worth a couple 1sts.

- Julius Randle could be very valuable for some team this summer. 25 teams or more want to improve, so there aren’t a lot of sellers for a player of Randle’s caliber. Plus, the lack of cap space this summer might make him amenable to a cheaper extension. I think he’s worth a 1st or two as well.

Anyway, I understand what a good player Durant is, and I understand the goal is to win a championship. But if Durant doesn’t want to be here, I would only expect one professional season from him, and that would be a big asset haul to lose, especially since Dilly and DDV could gain value next season.

So at worst, you could trade for a Top 15 player of all time who is still putting up big numbers for roughly the same price as a 26year old who has never made all-NBA and never been an all-star and was just the third best player on an 8 seed. I'll go with Durant....

I’m not following you. Who are you talking about?

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I’m not following you. Who are you talking about?

The Bane trade that just happened

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[jpatrick]

It’s hard for me to look at a Durant package without thinking about the price of the pieces in picks

- Dillingham was got last year for a 2031 unprotected pick and a 2030 pick swap. His value has decreased since then, without much on-court success and one year less on his rookie scale deal.

- DiVincenzo was often listed on “Best Contracts in the NBA” list last off-season, at $12 mil per year for three years. Dillingham has slid back with a poor season, and one less cheap deal, but the size of his contract still has value. Jace Fredrick claimed he was the second highest trade value on the team, and Dane Moore said third, even now. They think he’s worth a couple 1sts.

- Julius Randle could be very valuable for some team this summer. 25 teams or more want to improve, so there aren’t a lot of sellers for a player of Randle’s caliber. Plus, the lack of cap space this summer might make him amenable to a cheaper extension. I think he’s worth a 1st or two as well.

Anyway, I understand what a good player Durant is, and I understand the goal is to win a championship. But if Durant doesn’t want to be here, I would only expect one professional season from him, and that would be a big asset haul to lose, especially since Dilly and DDV could gain value next season.

So at worst, you could trade for a Top 15 player of all time who is still putting up big numbers for roughly the same price as a 26year old who has never made all-NBA and never been an all-star and was just the third best player on an 8 seed. I'll go with Durant....

Bane’s current value >>>>>>>> Durant’s current value.

First, you get one year of Durant. Who, at best, has been unhappy at destinations he’s picked, and now he would be coming to one he flat out doesn’t want to come to. Bane is locked up at age 26 for several years.

Bane is on a semi-reasonable contract. If, big if, you are fortunate to lock up Durant on an extension, you’re looking at about 180m over 3 years for someone that will be 40 at the end of it. Plus, with that contract, no way we squeeze in our current roster under the second apron.

For next regular season, do I think Durant would have a bigger impact than Bane? Yes. Do I think that makes us better than OKC? No. Do I think that even makes us a lock for a top four seed in the West? No. Just look at his impact at his last couple of stops? It’s been none essentially as far as playoff wins.

I think the league is showing just that. Old Durant has minimal value. As these playoffs have shown, with the grind of the regular season and playoffs, this is a young players league.

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[cmoss84]

The difference in salary between KD and Julius/DDV/RD is about $400k. I'd be perfectly happy with that, even if it is only for 1 year, as long as we keep all picks.

I’d rather have DDV, Randle, and Dilly for 4-5 years than an unhappy KD for one with no way to replace him. He could easily leave and we get nothing in return. Half the league will have cap space in 2026, so very unlikely we’d get much, if anything, in a sign and trade. My fear would be our roster would be so depleted, no way to get Ant a #2, limited draft assets for the next several years, it could trigger a chain reaction with Ant asking out. Not saying that would happen, but it is possible.

Now if we can lock in KD for three years for a Randle, DDV, Dilly package, I’m willing to roll the dice. I wouldn't want to give up more though, and I’d hope that TC has a plan at point guard.

Maybe Durant's feelings change when he realizes the teams he wants to go to don't want him? Minnesota willing to make sacrifices for him may change his tune. And maybe he likes playing in MN. Very fluid situation.