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Re: Who Wants Reaves? Give Best Offers 

Post#21 » by meat tray » Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:11 pm

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What are the teams who may realistically want to make a move for Reaves?

Lakers need a POA defender and a starting C, so need to fill one of those needs at least or enouh draft comp to make another deal

Does Utah make sense?

AR+Rui for Kessler, Collins, removing the swap in 27, and some light draft comp (future protected 1st, or some 2nds)?

Definitely works for LA as we now also have enough assets to move imo for a guy like Herb Jones (2027 1st, 2031 1st, Knecht, utah draft comp, and salaries)

Makes sense if Utah thinks AR can have a similar jump to a guy like Brunson and or they just want to start building towards winning

Do the Pels make sense to retool?
I don't know if I move AR for Herb stragiht up, I think AR is a better player. Herb had a down year, had surgery on his shoulder, but he has a very good contract if he gets back to who he was 2 and 3 seasons ago. Maybe we ask for Jose back/dump Vando/get some 2nds or swap

Pels get a higher upside guy, we get a better fit


I have Rui and Collins as similar in value and while I like Reeves, I have him in a similar tier to Kessler, I wouldn't trade Walker for him. I certainly wouldn't add value to do so.

Would you give us back the 27 swap so we can trade it?

I think the values are close, but I prefer Rui to Collins due to contract and age and then AR is a higher ceilin guy than Kessler, but Kessler is a better fit for us

Who does Utah want/what do you think they should be doing?


The problem with Utah trading for Reeves is he’ll be a free agent next year and there’s no way he’s extending off his current deal. Too big of a risk IMO.

Also, if you are adding Reeves you are shifting to be competitive, in which case you want to keep Walker around.

I like him as a target for the Jazz, but would much rather pursue in FA next year. Hopefully you get a keeper this year at 5, another lotto pick next year, then add Reeves and start trying to compete.
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Re: Who Wants Reaves? Give Best Offers 

Post#22 » by thelead » Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:14 pm

Wendell Carter Jr... but I don't think Orlando can pay AR after next season.

The CBA is a deal killer
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Post#23 » by nzahir » Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:31 pm

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I have Rui and Collins as similar in value and while I like Reeves, I have him in a similar tier to Kessler, I wouldn't trade Walker for him. I certainly wouldn't add value to do so.

Would you give us back the 27 swap so we can trade it?

I think the values are close, but I prefer Rui to Collins due to contract and age and then AR is a higher ceilin guy than Kessler, but Kessler is a better fit for us

Who does Utah want/what do you think they should be doing?


There is no swap in 27. The Jazz own the Lakers 2027 FRP with very light protections (1-4). No that wouldn't be on the table.

Collins is only 4 months older than Rui and is, imo, the better player. His contract is higher, but is expiring as well. Similar value. Disagree on the higher ceiling between AR & WK.

The Jazz should still be in "stealth" tanking mode, just not as overt as last season, and only making trades in order to acquire additional draft assets.

Youre right on the pick, my bad, I thought it was a swap for some reason

Is Collins a better value at 26-27m vs Rui at 18M though...probably not

With the rumors about Lakers calling in about Collins, I would hope its not just a Collins for Rui+salary deal, that would be a horrific use of Rui's contract and expirings/Vando.

Only way I like this is if Utah values Rui somehow and is a part of a bigger Kessler deal. If Utah doesnt want AR, then we can really only add on

Knecht, 2031 1st, swaps

Only way I see us getting additional draft comp is if we move our exping guys like Kleber and Gabe for a bad longer contract
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Re: Who Wants Reaves? Give Best Offers 

Post#24 » by nzahir » Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:32 pm

thelead wrote:Wendell Carter Jr... but I don't think Orlando can pay AR after next season.

The CBA is a deal killer

Definitely not, worst deal on here

WCJ gets hurt a decent amount, not sure hes good enough as a starting C, and not an ideal fit

If we are dealing with you guys at this point it would be for Goga for Knecht/protected 1st, but Knecht for Goga feels rich for me due to potential.
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Post#25 » by BowlRips » Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:46 pm

Depending what other moves are available to the Knicks in FA/trade market..

Mitch and Deuce certainly hit the description of players that OP is looking for.

And I could see the Knicks having interesting in Reaves to fill the Donte void.
While he's not Donte - Josh, Mikal and Jalen did spend the summer with him in FIBA two years ago..

Knecht and Reaves is pretty much matching salary. Knicks would need to send a min to a third team.
Really highly dependent on who Knicks could get at Center.
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Post#26 » by TGW » Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:58 pm

Does this sound reasonable:

Wizards send Smart + #18 to Lakers
Lakers send Reaves to third team
Third team sends filler + pick in the low teens (Rockets, Hawks, Bulls)?
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Re: Who Wants Reaves? Give Best Offers 

Post#27 » by Godaddycurse » Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:59 pm

TGW wrote:Does this sound reasonable:

Wizards send Smart + #18 to Lakers
Lakers send Reaves to third team
Third team sends filler + pick in the low teens (Rockets, Hawks, Bulls)?

Smart has no value/doesnt move you from 18 to low teens
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Re: Who Wants Reaves? Give Best Offers 

Post#28 » by Texas Chuck » Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:13 pm

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TGW wrote:Does this sound reasonable:

Wizards send Smart + #18 to Lakers
Lakers send Reaves to third team
Third team sends filler + pick in the low teens (Rockets, Hawks, Bulls)?

Smart has no value/doesnt move you from 18 to low teens


I mean if the filler is multiyear deals on players not worth those deals in theory it could. But LA would probably just take that instead of Smart/18 if it were offered. I would never trade Reaves for that.
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Re: Who Wants Reaves? Give Best Offers 

Post#29 » by shrink » Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:24 pm

Astaluego wrote:Reaves for DDV + Minot or Miller + 17

The Lakers get a 3D guard and a FRP to go for a center.

The WOLVES get the guard they need who fits long-term and in terms of age and skill set.

How about Ant continues to works on playmaking this summer, DDV gets more established, and MIN a doesn’t have to risk assets on a guy that might walk for nothing?
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Post#30 » by zimpy27 » Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:27 pm

Reaves+Knecht+filler for Smart+Sarr

Reaves+filler for Claxton+26+27

Reaves+filler for IQ+TOR26FRP

Reaves+Rui for Coby+Lonzo+Smith

Reaves+filler for Bufkin+Okongwu

Reaves+Rui+filler for Suggs+Goga

Reaves+Rui for Allen+Okoro
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Post#31 » by BlazersBroncos » Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:45 pm

zimpy27 wrote:Reaves+Knecht+filler for Smart+Sarr

Reaves+filler for Claxton+26+27

Reaves+filler for IQ+TOR26FRP

Reaves+Rui for Coby+Lonzo+Smith

Reaves+filler for Bufkin+Okongwu

Reaves+Rui+filler for Suggs+Goga

Reaves+Rui for Allen+Okoro


Only deals that I can see the other teams make here are ATL and maybe CHI.

Reaves and Dalton for Sarr is nuts. ORL would keep Suggs over Reaves. CLE doesnt need to trade a starting C to put Reaves as a 6th man. Dont see Reaves as being 2 FRP better than Nic (If any FRP better). TOR will not pay a future FRP and a locked in IQ for the pleasure of paying Reaves in a year.
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Re: Who Wants Reaves? Give Best Offers 

Post#32 » by zimpy27 » Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:05 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:Reaves+Knecht+filler for Smart+Sarr

Reaves+filler for Claxton+26+27

Reaves+filler for IQ+TOR26FRP

Reaves+Rui for Coby+Lonzo+Smith

Reaves+filler for Bufkin+Okongwu

Reaves+Rui+filler for Suggs+Goga

Reaves+Rui for Allen+Okoro


Only deals that I can see the other teams make here are ATL and maybe CHI.

Reaves and Dalton for Sarr is nuts. ORL would keep Suggs over Reaves. CLE doesnt need to trade a starting C to put Reaves as a 6th man. Dont see Reaves as being 2 FRP better than Nic (If any FRP better). TOR will not pay a future FRP and a locked in IQ for the pleasure of paying Reaves in a year.


Was just balancing value from my perspective. I wasn't thinking directionally. Agree Wiz would not trade Sarr since they are looking for young guys with potential.

Well 26+27 are late FRPs, maybe I'm lower on Claxton than you.

IQ is injury prone, the deal is neutral IMO.
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Re: Who Wants Reaves? Give Best Offers 

Post#33 » by nykballa2k4 » Fri Jun 20, 2025 1:01 am

nzahir wrote:
thelead wrote:Wendell Carter Jr... but I don't think Orlando can pay AR after next season.

The CBA is a deal killer

Definitely not, worst deal on here

WCJ gets hurt a decent amount, not sure hes good enough as a starting C, and not an ideal fit

If we are dealing with you guys at this point it would be for Goga for Knecht/protected 1st, but Knecht for Goga feels rich for me due to potential.


You should try to lump in JI for Vando
Similar health risk, better fit.
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Post#34 » by BK_2020 » Fri Jun 20, 2025 1:09 am

Is there even a 1% chance of Reaves picking up his player option?
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Post#35 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Fri Jun 20, 2025 1:13 am

S&T for IQ + LAL 2026 SRP back for Reaves at 32 million

I think the fit is better for both teams. Reaves starts at PG for Toronto and IQ plays offball as a shooter next to Lebron and Luka
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Post#36 » by Godaddycurse » Fri Jun 20, 2025 1:17 am

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IQ is injury prone, the deal is neutral IMO.


He averaged 72 games/year in the 4 years before this one (including some tank sitting games in year 4). Also sat more than a few this yeaR because we were tanking

Overall 324/5 years is about 65 gp/year. Bit too early to call him injury prone.

He is worth more to us than on the market not interested in trading him
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Post#37 » by BK_2020 » Fri Jun 20, 2025 1:18 am

UnbelievablyRAW wrote:S&T for IQ + LAL 2026 SRP back for Reaves at 32 million

I think the fit is better for both teams. Reaves starts at PG for Toronto and IQ plays offball as a shooter next to Lebron and Luka

Why wouldn't Reaves fit in LA? Are you suggesting IQ is a better offball shooter than Reaves?
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Re: Who Wants Reaves? Give Best Offers 

Post#38 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Fri Jun 20, 2025 1:19 am

BlazersBroncos wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:Reaves+Knecht+filler for Smart+Sarr

Reaves+filler for Claxton+26+27

Reaves+filler for IQ+TOR26FRP

Reaves+Rui for Coby+Lonzo+Smith

Reaves+filler for Bufkin+Okongwu

Reaves+Rui+filler for Suggs+Goga

Reaves+Rui for Allen+Okoro


Only deals that I can see the other teams make here are ATL and maybe CHI.

Reaves and Dalton for Sarr is nuts. ORL would keep Suggs over Reaves. CLE doesnt need to trade a starting C to put Reaves as a 6th man. Dont see Reaves as being 2 FRP better than Nic (If any FRP better). TOR will not pay a future FRP and a locked in IQ for the pleasure of paying Reaves in a year.


I'd much rather have Reaves at 32.5 million than IQ. He's also shown he can play up in big games and moments. I'd be more than willing to give the LAL their SRP back in 2026 if this can be made possible
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Post#39 » by schaffy » Fri Jun 20, 2025 1:26 am

BK_2020 wrote:Is there even a 1% chance of Reaves picking up his player option?
Outside a devastating injury that would keep him out for a year, I can't see it.

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Post#40 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Fri Jun 20, 2025 1:32 am

BK_2020 wrote:
UnbelievablyRAW wrote:S&T for IQ + LAL 2026 SRP back for Reaves at 32 million

I think the fit is better for both teams. Reaves starts at PG for Toronto and IQ plays offball as a shooter next to Lebron and Luka

Why wouldn't Reaves fit in LA? Are you suggesting IQ is a better offball shooter than Reaves?


No more that Reaves will probably want a larger onball role and that won't happen next to Luka and Lebron. IQ is better as an off ball shooter quite literally lol

23/24:
IQ: 41.4% on C&S 3PT attempts; 37.6% on pull up 3PT attempts; 44% on wide open 3PT attempts
Reaves: 36.7% on C&S 3PT attempts; 37.3% on pull up 3PT attempts; 39.3% on wide open 3PT attempts

24/25:
IQ: 36.8% on C&S 3PT attempts; 38.7% on pull up 3PT attempts; 42.8% on wide open 3PT attempts
Reaves: 39.9% on C&S 3PT attempts; 34.9% on pull up 3PT attempts; 41.4% on wide open 3PT attempts

This is in the context of terrible Raptors spacing and Reaves playing next to Lebron and then both Lebron and Luka. IQ as a 3rd option roaming shooter would perform that role better than Reaves and I'm not sure thats what Reaves wants to do given how good he is with the ball
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