Who wants Rui Hachimura?

[scoobs07]

Rui + Vanderbilt +Knecht to Utah for John Collins + #21. I thought I heard someone say Utah wants to to win now.

[Mavrelous]

Rui + Vanderbilt +Knecht to Utah for John Collins + #21. I thought I heard someone say Utah wants to to win now.

UTA has no use for Rui, and value is closer w/o the 1st than with it.

[scoobs07]

Rui + Vanderbilt +Knecht to Utah for John Collins + #21. I thought I heard someone say Utah wants to to win now.

UTA has no use for Rui, and value is closer w/o the 1st than with it.

I see what you are saying. So what does Utah want for Collins then? Did they say they want to win now?

[Mavrelous]

Rui + Vanderbilt +Knecht to Utah for John Collins + #21. I thought I heard someone say Utah wants to to win now.

UTA has no use for Rui, and value is closer w/o the 1st than with it.

I see what you are saying. So what does Utah want for Collins then? Did they say they want to win now?

Matching salary is enough + symbolic value, like a 2nd
Vincent + Klebelr + Milton + 2nd
or
Kleber + Vando + Knecht if they like Knecht.

I don't understand why the Lakers are interested in Collins, they have 5 PFs and 2 guards on roster.

[PistolPeteJR]

Rui + SRP for John Collins, Heard Utah fans saying that's all it would take?

Lakers fans say no thanks.

An athletic rim running big next to Luka is something LAL could use though?

[mg]

Rui + Vanderbilt +Knecht to Utah for John Collins + #21. I thought I heard someone say Utah wants to to win now.

UTA has no use for Rui, and value is closer w/o the 1st than with it.

I see what you are saying. So what does Utah want for Collins then? Did they say they want to win now?

Their new POBO Austin Ainge said they wouldn't be playing tanking games (resting non injured players, manipulating lineups to purposely lose, etc). I take it they are going to trade out the John Collins types and play all the kids so they can lose organically. There are no sacred cows I'm assuming anyone can be traded even Lauri/Kessler if the other team presents a good offer.

The main thing in a Collins trade is they don't want long term salary in return. Expirings + good SRP might get it done but that's just a guess on my part.

[scoobs07]

UTA has no use for Rui, and value is closer w/o the 1st than with it.

I see what you are saying. So what does Utah want for Collins then? Did they say they want to win now?

Matching salary is enough + symbolic value, like a 2nd
Vincent + Klebelr + Milton + 2nd
or
Kleber + Vando + Knecht if they like Knecht.

I don't understand why the Lakers are interested in Collins, they have 5 PFs and 2 guards on roster.

They like to go small. Collins would be a 5.

[nzahir]

I see what you are saying. So what does Utah want for Collins then? Did they say they want to win now?

Matching salary is enough + symbolic value, like a 2nd
Vincent + Klebelr + Milton + 2nd
or
Kleber + Vando + Knecht if they like Knecht.

I don't understand why the Lakers are interested in Collins, they have 5 PFs and 2 guards on roster.

They like to go small. Collins would be a 5.

And thats the wrong idea

Its good to be able to play small, or a normal C, or even double bigs

A trade though with Utah would be giving s back our 27 1st so we can trade our 26 1st, 28 1st, and 2030 1st

Give Utah those 3 1sts (so 2 1sts) and Knecht for Kessler. Protect 2030 a bit or ask for 2nds?
Can include Rui+Kleber if we want to get Collins

Still have the mle to use and still have the 27 1st to flip and some 2nds possibly. Can get Wiggins still if its a 3 teamer and send MIami Vincent, Vando, Shake and a 1st

Luka, Wiggins, DFS, Bron, Kessler
Reaves, Collins
Fill out roster with mle and vet mins

Collins isn't my favorite, but its an option. Just feel like a solid C and then signing a strtech big like Jaylin or Horford with mini mle is better

[JHFVF07]

Rui+ for Grant?

What about Rui+Vincent+Kleber plus one or two 2nds for Ayton?

[JRoy]

I never should have suggested a deal with LAL. Feels gross.