2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9

[PhilBlackson]

clark kellogg on nba radio today named carter bryant as the breakout sleeper in the draft

Samson Folk did a deep analysis of Bryant and loves him too.

[nivisi9]

damn was hoping Kon might slip to us, no longer looks very likely.

He's just going to be good, figure out the rest later but think he'd be the dream RJ replacement...

ORL got Bane we could've matched with a Kon

[Reeko]

damn was hoping Kon might slip to us, no longer looks very likely.

He's just going to be good, figure out the rest later but think he'd be the dream RJ replacement...

ORL got Bane we could've matched with a Kon

I like Kon a lot as well. Not too concerned though, we've already got Gradey to hold us down. He's going to have a borderline All Star season this year.

At 9, I think Carter Bryant should be the pick. Something about the way he moves and shoots reminds me of star players.

[WuTang_CMB]

Looking at Tankathon, I think if Kon goes top 5, there's a good chance KM will be at Toronto's pick (not saying its the right call). New Orleans / Wash would love for Fears or Tre and I think Ainge pulls the trigger on Ace.

I personally don't believe BRK will take KM and they are going Jak or Essengue in this scenario.

If there's any trades, they will be on draft night as they have to wait to see how the board shakes out.

Hmm idk but surely you’ve seen reports too that the Nets have liked Maluach as well…

If he does fall to us I’ll rejoice lol but I just think there’s so much smoke around him and you know what they say about the fire. I’d say almost especially with the Hornets who might be trying to lure someone into trading up considering how seemingly broken the relationship is with Mark Williams and the franchise. But who knows? I’ll pray you’re right.

Although lowkey I’ve now been favouring a trade down scenario to take one of Coward/Traore (Bryant would be tops but doubt he’s still there) and Yang.

Ya iv seen but i think they ultimately pass and go for a guard like jak

[BoyzNTheHood]

damn was hoping Kon might slip to us, no longer looks very likely.

He's just going to be good, figure out the rest later but think he'd be the dream RJ replacement...

ORL got Bane we could've matched with a Kon

I like Kon a lot as well. Not too concerned though, we've already got Gradey to hold us down. He's going to have a borderline All Star season this year.

At 9, I think Carter Bryant should be the pick. Something about the way he moves and shoots reminds me of star players.

100%

Been on this wagon for a long while now, but iirc CB doesn’t fit Jerry Lucas’ algorithm, so either Masai/Bobby stray from the norm, or we gotta watch CB go off in a different jersey.

[bboyskinnylegs]

if Kon is there at 9, do we take him and deal one of Gradey/Jakobe? It feels like it would be difficult to get them all the minutes they need.

[Reeko]

damn was hoping Kon might slip to us, no longer looks very likely.

He's just going to be good, figure out the rest later but think he'd be the dream RJ replacement...

ORL got Bane we could've matched with a Kon

I like Kon a lot as well. Not too concerned though, we've already got Gradey to hold us down. He's going to have a borderline All Star season this year.

At 9, I think Carter Bryant should be the pick. Something about the way he moves and shoots reminds me of star players.

100%

Been on this wagon for a long while now, but iirc CB doesn’t fit Jerry Lucas’ algorithm, so either Masai/Bobby stray from the norm, or we gotta watch CB go off in a different jersey.

What's Jerry Lucas' algorithm?

[BoyzNTheHood]

I like Kon a lot as well. Not too concerned though, we've already got Gradey to hold us down. He's going to have a borderline All Star season this year.

At 9, I think Carter Bryant should be the pick. Something about the way he moves and shoots reminds me of star players.

100%

Been on this wagon for a long while now, but iirc CB doesn’t fit Jerry Lucas’ algorithm, so either Masai/Bobby stray from the norm, or we gotta watch CB go off in a different jersey.

What's Jerry Lucas' algorithm?

He’s been posting our most likely selections based on a statistic based algorithm that he puts into Bartovik.

[DreamTeam09]

if Kon is there at 9, do we take him and deal one of Gradey/Jakobe? It feels like it would be difficult to get them all the minutes they need.

No, you select someone else or you trade back. If Kon was some can't miss prospect he wouldn't be there at 9, I don't see him being better than GD/Walter to the point where I'd select him & trade one of em for potentially pennies on the dollar

[Reeko]

100%

Been on this wagon for a long while now, but iirc CB doesn’t fit Jerry Lucas’ algorithm, so either Masai/Bobby stray from the norm, or we gotta watch CB go off in a different jersey.

What's Jerry Lucas' algorithm?

He’s been posting our most likely selections based on a statistic based algorithm that he puts into Bartovik.

And what did he come up with?

[BoyzNTheHood]

What's Jerry Lucas' algorithm?

He’s been posting our most likely selections based on a statistic based algorithm that he puts into Bartovik.

And what did he come up with?

Here damn…

Tier 1) Will not be available at Pick #9 (Worst rank no lower than 8):
Cooper Flagg
Dylan Harper
VJ Edgecombe
Tre Johnson

Tier 2) Could be available at Pick #9 but not guaranteed (Best rank no lower than 9 and Worst rank is lower than 9):
Jeremiah Fears
Ace Bailey
Kon Knueppel
Khaman Maluach
Derik Queen
Collin Murray-Boyles
Kasparas Jakucionis
Egor Demin
Nolan Traore
Noa Essengue
Carter Bryant

Tier 3) Other Masai-type FRPs that are probably mocked too low to be realistic options at Pick #9 (Best rank is lower than 9):
Asa Newell (Best rank is 11)
Jase Richardson (Best rank is 11)
Adou Thiero (Best rank is 20)

I highlighted names in green if they produced like Masai-type FRPs, and red if they did not produce like Masai-type FRPs. The non-highlighted names I'm unsure about. For any non-NCAA prospect, I can't evaluate with any degree of confidence because these Masai-type FRP queries only work with NCAA prospects.

[LoveMyRaps]

Danny Wolf is Israeli.

[Reeko]

He’s been posting our most likely selections based on a statistic based algorithm that he puts into Bartovik.

And what did he come up with?

Here damn…

Tier 1) Will not be available at Pick #9 (Worst rank no lower than 8):
Cooper Flagg
Dylan Harper
VJ Edgecombe
Tre Johnson

Tier 2) Could be available at Pick #9 but not guaranteed (Best rank no lower than 9 and Worst rank is lower than 9):
Jeremiah Fears
Ace Bailey
Kon Knueppel
Khaman Maluach
Derik Queen
Collin Murray-Boyles
Kasparas Jakucionis
Egor Demin
Nolan Traore
Noa Essengue
Carter Bryant

Tier 3) Other Masai-type FRPs that are probably mocked too low to be realistic options at Pick #9 (Best rank is lower than 9):
Asa Newell (Best rank is 11)
Jase Richardson (Best rank is 11)
Adou Thiero (Best rank is 20)

I highlighted names in green if they produced like Masai-type FRPs, and red if they did not produce like Masai-type FRPs. The non-highlighted names I'm unsure about. For any non-NCAA prospect, I can't evaluate with any degree of confidence because these Masai-type FRP queries only work with NCAA prospects.

Well, Bryant was pretty underutilized at Arizona so it's no surprise. Out of every NCAA player on that list I would imagine that he averaged the least minutes per game. Although I wonder how much advanced stats factor into this as Bryant's advanced metrics are pretty good.

[BoyzNTheHood]

And what did he come up with?

Here damn…

Tier 1) Will not be available at Pick #9 (Worst rank no lower than 8):
Cooper Flagg
Dylan Harper
VJ Edgecombe
Tre Johnson

Tier 2) Could be available at Pick #9 but not guaranteed (Best rank no lower than 9 and Worst rank is lower than 9):
Jeremiah Fears
Ace Bailey
Kon Knueppel
Khaman Maluach
Derik Queen
Collin Murray-Boyles
Kasparas Jakucionis
Egor Demin
Nolan Traore
Noa Essengue
Carter Bryant

Tier 3) Other Masai-type FRPs that are probably mocked too low to be realistic options at Pick #9 (Best rank is lower than 9):
Asa Newell (Best rank is 11)
Jase Richardson (Best rank is 11)
Adou Thiero (Best rank is 20)

Well, Bryant was pretty underutilized at Arizona so it's no surprise. Out of every NCAA player on that list I would imagine that he averaged the least minutes per game. Although I wonder how much advanced stats factor into this as Bryant's advanced metrics are pretty good.

I want me some Carter Bryant, and some Hansen Yang!

[alpngso]

I think Maluach will go top 5. Somebody will think they can turn him into Rudy Gobert with Lopez shooting skill.

Just like people thought with Mo Bamba, JJJ, Jaxson Hayes, Wiseman, Evan Mobley, Alex Sarr

[DG88]

We'll know who the 9th pick is based on the draft fits. Gradey had the ruby red. Walter wearing classic purple.

[Dalek]

Danny Wolf is Israeli.

He is Israeli-American and grew up in a small town in Illinois. He did play for the NT as a youth. I don't think he will be drafted to the Israeili army, just the NBA.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

If Khaman is gone before 9 I'm trying to trade down to grab Coward and Wolf/Sorber/etc with 2 firsts

[UnbelievablyRAW]

We'll know who the 9th pick is based on the draft fits. Gradey had the ruby red. Walter wearing classic purple.

Scottie wearing Raptors white

[BoyzNTheHood]

Danny Wolf is Israeli.

He is Israeli-American and grew up in a small town in Illinois. He did play for the NT as a youth. I don't think he will be drafted to the Israeili army, just the NBA.

He’s a naturalized citizen. Ain’t no way a 7 footer would be drafted into the army. Big ass target.