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Re: Stein/Fischer: Toronto willing to deal RJ Barrett, IQ, Poeltl for Significant Upgrades // #9 Available 

Post#1221 » by Rapsfan07 » Fri Jun 20, 2025 4:34 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:Buy a car for 20K with 50 kms on it. Drive it to 150 kms. Expect to sell it for the same 20K you paid for it.


We should be staying as far away from this Durant stuff as possible.
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Post#1222 » by LoveMyRaps » Fri Jun 20, 2025 4:38 pm

Our offer is way better than the Heat, but whatever let the Suns accept it. I don't want to give up that much for KD anyways.

I'm fine with RJ + Poeltl + lotto protected future first.... but IQ + Poeltl + multiple picks is an absurd overpayment.
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Post#1224 » by WuTang_CMB » Fri Jun 20, 2025 4:43 pm

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OakleyDokely wrote:Buy a car for 20K with 50 kms on it. Drive it to 150 kms. Expect to sell it for the same 20K you paid for it.


We should be staying as far away from this Durant stuff as possible.


Ya im over it
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Post#1225 » by MiamiSPX » Fri Jun 20, 2025 4:44 pm

Word down here is that the Heat are not offering Ware and that the actual hold up is refusing to include Jovic. Not sure what to believe but Riley is the same guy who stopped taking Cronin's calls.
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Post#1226 » by OakleyDokely » Fri Jun 20, 2025 4:46 pm

MiamiSPX wrote:Word down here is that the Heat are not offering Ware and that the actual hold up is refusing to include Jovic. Not sure what to believe but Riley is the same guy who stopped taking Cronin's calls.


Riley called up PHX and was like, we arent giving you any of our top players and we have no top draft picks to give you. Take it or leave it.
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Post#1227 » by douggood » Fri Jun 20, 2025 4:47 pm

we are starting to hear the finals offers leaked, end game is nigh
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Post#1228 » by OakleyDokely » Fri Jun 20, 2025 4:49 pm

douggood wrote:we are starting to hear the finals offers leaked, end game is nigh


He will be traded before the draft.
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Post#1229 » by LoveMyRaps » Fri Jun 20, 2025 4:50 pm

The most recent leak about how Heat are at the 2 yard line, could also be a way to get the Raps to add an extra piece or adjust the protections on a future first.
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Post#1230 » by LoveMyRaps » Fri Jun 20, 2025 4:51 pm

TimeForChange wrote:It’s crazy that no one wants RJ :lol:


How do you know that?
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Post#1231 » by MiamiSPX » Fri Jun 20, 2025 4:52 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:
MiamiSPX wrote:Word down here is that the Heat are not offering Ware and that the actual hold up is refusing to include Jovic. Not sure what to believe but Riley is the same guy who stopped taking Cronin's calls.


Riley called up PHX and was like, we arent giving you any of our top players and we have no top draft picks to give you. Take it or leave it.


Then ran his hands through that slick lid and sat back, arms crossed with that arrogant smirk. This will be the 5th-6th consecutive big name player that had Miami on his wish list. He takes that to mean he can offer as little as possible. Difference here is that, like us, about half of Heat fans don't want KD at all.
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Post#1232 » by Raps in 4 » Fri Jun 20, 2025 4:56 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:Buy a car for 20K with 50 kms on it. Drive it to 150 kms. Expect to sell it for the same 20K you paid for it.


They paid 20k for a car with 200k km on it already. Now it's at 250k km and they're still asking for 20k, which was an overpay to begin with.
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Post#1233 » by OakleyDokely » Fri Jun 20, 2025 4:59 pm

Are these the reported offers?

TOR Poeltl + IQ/RJ + 9
HOU Green + 10
SA Vassell + Johnson + 14
MIA Wiggins + Robinson + 20
MIN Gobert + DiVincenzo + 17
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Post#1234 » by Raps in 4 » Fri Jun 20, 2025 5:00 pm

What's this Sabonis talk? Sabonis is a lot more interesting than KD given his age.
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Re: Stein/Fischer: Toronto willing to deal RJ Barrett, IQ, Poeltl for Significant Upgrades // #9 Available 

Post#1235 » by douggood » Fri Jun 20, 2025 5:00 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:Are these the reported offers?

TOR Poeltl + IQ/RJ + 9
HOU Green + 10
SA Vassell + Johnson + 14
MIA Wiggins + Robinson + 20
MIN Gobert + DiVincenzo + 17

i am gonna guess the miami offer has 2 future 1sts, otherwise its the worst of the lot by a mile
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Post#1236 » by Raps in 4 » Fri Jun 20, 2025 5:01 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:Are these the reported offers?

TOR Poeltl + IQ/RJ + 9
HOU Green + 10
SA Vassell + Johnson + 14
MIA Wiggins + Robinson + 20
MIN Gobert + DiVincenzo + 17


If we're offering #9 and multiple role players for a guy who's 1-2 years away from retirement, we're beyond cooked.
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Post#1237 » by Son Goku 25 » Fri Jun 20, 2025 5:11 pm

I'd rather he go to the Spurs at this point.

I think that's his most preferred destination as well. I could see Giannis getting dealt there later too who knows.

Could see us getting two firsts but most likely looks like we'll stick with our 9th pick and add as needed.
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Post#1238 » by LoveMyRaps » Fri Jun 20, 2025 5:16 pm

Raps in 4 wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:Are these the reported offers?

TOR Poeltl + IQ/RJ + 9
HOU Green + 10
SA Vassell + Johnson + 14
MIA Wiggins + Robinson + 20
MIN Gobert + DiVincenzo + 17


If we're offering #9 and multiple role players for a guy who's 1-2 years away from retirement, we're beyond cooked.


Doubt we are tbh.
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Post#1239 » by WuTang_CMB » Fri Jun 20, 2025 5:18 pm

Raps in 4 wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:Are these the reported offers?

TOR Poeltl + IQ/RJ + 9
HOU Green + 10
SA Vassell + Johnson + 14
MIA Wiggins + Robinson + 20
MIN Gobert + DiVincenzo + 17


If we're offering #9 and multiple role players for a guy who's 1-2 years away from retirement, we're beyond cooked.


PHX should be taking our offer if they had any brains but I'm not 100% sure Poeltl is on the table as media guys have suggested
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Post#1240 » by Fairview4Life » Fri Jun 20, 2025 5:19 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:Are these the reported offers?

TOR Poeltl + IQ/RJ + 9
HOU Green + 10
SA Vassell + Johnson + 14
MIA Wiggins + Robinson + 20
MIN Gobert + DiVincenzo + 17


If we're offering #9 and multiple role players for a guy who's 1-2 years away from retirement, we're beyond cooked.


Doubt we are tbh.


The trade would have been done if those were the offers.
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