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2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1281 » by RexBoyWonder » Fri Jun 20, 2025 8:29 pm

1) Fat Erny can go suck on Jimmy's balls, he knows chit and he's a pathetic tool.

2) Hold firm with the Suns, you either get him in a bargain or we walk away. You simply can't overpay for a 37YO, don't care who it is or what he was 4 years ago. You pay for future production, not past one and not for name recognition.

3) Regardless we should explore another move and get Sexton and Collins out of Utah, shouldn't cost much and could help our miserable offense.

4) I'm very open to trading Herro if we can't extend him for around 30 per. This front office better have some foresight with Herro, because falling a sleep on the Jimmy situation and his extension killed us in a bunch of ways, so they **** better handle the Herro extension or trade a head of time.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1282 » by twix2500 » Fri Jun 20, 2025 8:40 pm

Heat are under no pressure. For the Heat this is like Butler in Minnesota. Couldn't agree on a trade with Minnesota, Butler traded to 76ers for trash and got Butler as a sign and trade free agent. Heat can wait a yr or until Suns bend.

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Post#1284 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Jun 20, 2025 8:45 pm

Suns have worked out 3 Centers in this draft. Raynaud, Kalkbrenner, and Wolf.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1285 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jun 20, 2025 8:47 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:1) Fat Erny can go suck on Jimmy's balls, he knows chit and he's a pathetic tool.

2) Hold firm with the Suns, you either get him in a bargain or we walk away. You simply can't overpay for a 37YO, don't care who it is or what he was 4 years ago. You pay for future production, not past one and not for name recognition.

3) Regardless we should explore another move and get Sexton and Collins out of Utah, shouldn't cost much and could help our miserable offense.

4) I'm very open to trading Herro if we can't extend him for around 30 per. This front office better have some foresight with Herro, because falling a sleep on the Jimmy situation and his extension killed us in a bunch of ways, so they **** better handle the Herro extension or trade a head of time.


If there’s no star available after the KD deal to package additional assets on top of Herro I wouldn’t mind working out a deal to the Jazz for Sexton Collins and maybe Clarkson or someone else on their roster that could help. Get some legit depth.
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Post#1286 » by Lennyzinho » Fri Jun 20, 2025 8:54 pm

twix2500 wrote:Heat are under no pressure. For the Heat this is like Butler in Minnesota. Couldn't agree on a trade with Minnesota, Butler traded to 76ers for trash and got Butler as a sign and trade free agent. Heat can wait a yr or until Suns bend.

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I somewhat disagree.
With Herro making 30M next two years, there's a window to add a player like durant and then derozan and give this team that window to compete with bam davion ware etc.

If they dont get Durant than adding derozan or anyone else is just a dumb asset losing lateral move. And should just let the young dudes play, trade for assets if possible, get a good draft pick next draft and have cap for 2026-2027. Doing that, you lose one of those Herro years making relatively small amount. I wouldn't understand the appeal of getting Durant next year if PHX for whatever reason trades him to a team he doesnt want to play for, unless we intend on trading Herro away, cuz a core of max herro bam durant isn't winning anything.
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Post#1287 » by HeatFanLifer » Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:10 pm

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twix2500 wrote:Heat are under no pressure. For the Heat this is like Butler in Minnesota. Couldn't agree on a trade with Minnesota, Butler traded to 76ers for trash and got Butler as a sign and trade free agent. Heat can wait a yr or until Suns bend.

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I somewhat disagree.
With Herro making 30M next two years, there's a window to add a player like durant and then derozan and give this team that window to compete with bam davion ware etc.

If they dont get Durant than adding derozan or anyone else is just a dumb asset losing lateral move. And should just let the young dudes play, trade for assets if possible, get a good draft pick next draft and have cap for 2026-2027. Doing that, you lose one of those Herro years making relatively small amount. I wouldn't understand the appeal of getting Durant next year if PHX for whatever reason trades him to a team he doesnt want to play for, unless we intend on trading Herro away, cuz a core of max herro bam durant isn't winning anything.


The ship has sailed on this team. It sailed in the 2024 playoffs and no band aid player will change it to a contender. I am hoping for a busy offseason, but I think it will be a sleepy one. The team is coasting at this point. Very similar to the 2016-2018 offseasons where the Heat just waited for bad contracts to expire and coasted with the treadmill squad.
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Post#1288 » by eddieheatfan » Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:14 pm

Lennyzinho wrote:
twix2500 wrote:Heat are under no pressure. For the Heat this is like Butler in Minnesota. Couldn't agree on a trade with Minnesota, Butler traded to 76ers for trash and got Butler as a sign and trade free agent. Heat can wait a yr or until Suns bend.

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I somewhat disagree.
With Herro making 30M next two years, there's a window to add a player like durant and then derozan and give this team that window to compete with bam davion ware etc.

If they dont get Durant than adding derozan or anyone else is just a dumb asset losing lateral move. And should just let the young dudes play, trade for assets if possible, get a good draft pick next draft and have cap for 2026-2027. Doing that, you lose one of those Herro years making relatively small amount. I wouldn't understand the appeal of getting Durant next year if PHX for whatever reason trades him to a team he doesnt want to play for, unless we intend on trading Herro away, cuz a core of max herro bam durant isn't winning anything.



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Post#1289 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:23 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1290 » by twix2500 » Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:24 pm

HeatFanLifer wrote:
Lennyzinho wrote:
twix2500 wrote:Heat are under no pressure. For the Heat this is like Butler in Minnesota. Couldn't agree on a trade with Minnesota, Butler traded to 76ers for trash and got Butler as a sign and trade free agent. Heat can wait a yr or until Suns bend.

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I somewhat disagree.
With Herro making 30M next two years, there's a window to add a player like durant and then derozan and give this team that window to compete with bam davion ware etc.

If they dont get Durant than adding derozan or anyone else is just a dumb asset losing lateral move. And should just let the young dudes play, trade for assets if possible, get a good draft pick next draft and have cap for 2026-2027. Doing that, you lose one of those Herro years making relatively small amount. I wouldn't understand the appeal of getting Durant next year if PHX for whatever reason trades him to a team he doesnt want to play for, unless we intend on trading Herro away, cuz a core of max herro bam durant isn't winning anything.


The ship has sailed on this team. It sailed in the 2024 playoffs and no band aid player will change it to a contender. I am hoping for a busy offseason, but I think it will be a sleepy one. The team is coasting at this point. Very similar to the 2016-2018 offseasons where the Heat just waited for bad contracts to expire and coasted with the treadmill squad.


Jimmy Butler is gone. This is not the 2019-2024 build anymore. Let it go. The Heat are 5 months in a rebuild around Herro and Bam.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1291 » by Lennyzinho » Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:28 pm

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Lennyzinho wrote:
twix2500 wrote:Heat are under no pressure. For the Heat this is like Butler in Minnesota. Couldn't agree on a trade with Minnesota, Butler traded to 76ers for trash and got Butler as a sign and trade free agent. Heat can wait a yr or until Suns bend.

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I somewhat disagree.
With Herro making 30M next two years, there's a window to add a player like durant and then derozan and give this team that window to compete with bam davion ware etc.

If they dont get Durant than adding derozan or anyone else is just a dumb asset losing lateral move. And should just let the young dudes play, trade for assets if possible, get a good draft pick next draft and have cap for 2026-2027. Doing that, you lose one of those Herro years making relatively small amount. I wouldn't understand the appeal of getting Durant next year if PHX for whatever reason trades him to a team he doesnt want to play for, unless we intend on trading Herro away, cuz a core of max herro bam durant isn't winning anything.



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We competed with Jimmy multiple times did we not? I think Durant is better than Jimmy and fits alongside Bam better. Davion has been a great find. Herro had his best year yet and is improving YoY. The East is weaker than ever, granted Magic and Pistons are on the upswing while Bucks and Celtics are injured. I didnt say we'd be favorites or win it all, but the disbelief is weird.

Jimmy sabotaged the team last year. We should've tanked. But thinking adding Durant and Derozan and sending out JJJ Wiggins Rozier Duncan whoever else doesnt make us a solid playoff team is weird.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1292 » by twix2500 » Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:36 pm

If Durant not traded by midnight I don't think Heat are getting the deal done.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1293 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:44 pm

twix2500 wrote:If Durant not traded by midnight I don't think Heat are getting the deal done.


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Post#1294 » by DayofMourning » Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:45 pm

Ware/Raynaud
Bam/Jovic
Durant/Flagg
Herro/Larsson
Davion/Saraf

Its not that hard bro.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1295 » by Beenie » Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:45 pm

DayofMourning wrote:
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Why are you all giving Butler's secretary credibility?


Suns desperately want Rozier but Riley, unwilling to concede the mistake of trading for him, is steadfast in overseeing Terry's resurgence in a Heat uniform eh


Word is Riley is looking to trade Rozier and a future lottery protected pick for Mike Conley.


Conley pairs nicely next to Derozan
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1296 » by twix2500 » Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:47 pm

I believe the Heat have other trade options for this up coming draft. I believe the 20th pick will be traded rather its for Durant or not.
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Post#1298 » by DayofMourning » Fri Jun 20, 2025 10:00 pm

Beenie wrote:Conley pairs nicely next to Derozan


Get KD and then figure out how to add Brook Lopez.
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