2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (Wow this is fun!)

[redslastlaugh]

The anticipation is starting to really kill me lol.

-Who gets traded? (KP, Jrue, Hauser...maybe JB, white..will Brad shock everyone by moving Pritchard? Seems like Tatum is basically the only untouchable)
-What are we going to get back in these trades?

I know lol... lets do this, what are we waiting for...

I wonder if any deals are waiting on the Finals outcome. For instance, OKC may be interested in trading with us but only if they lose... if they win they'll bring back the same general roster to defend the crown. Who knows?

I know it's old business but it still bothers me the Jrue 2024 extension number. Knowing the new CBA, the second apron, how could we extend Jrue at 4yrs/$135? That number is substantially over market for Jrue at 34yrs. The contract wasnt a reward for title contributions because it came before the playoffs. If we had extended Jrue 3/$80 or 4/$100, our roster flexibility right now would be way better.

Oh well, still frustrates me though, lol

[GreenBlooded]

There has been a lot of debate on here about JB and a potential San Antonio package but I'm curious about the other Texas team mentioned as a potential suitor, Houston. What are the boards thoughts about a package based around Sengun and the #10 pick? Would that offer trump Castle and #2?

[fallguy]

The problem with JJJ, Sengun and Sabonis is they each have such significant flaws they force you into complementary roster decisions that you otherwise wouldn't make. And in my view, none of them are worth those decisions.

[165bows]

The problem with JJJ, Sengun and Sabonis is they each have such significant flaws they force you into complementary roster decisions that you otherwise wouldn't make. And in my view, none of them are worth those decisions.

Weird thing is they are oddly good complements to each other.

[165bows]

There has been a lot of debate on here about JB and a potential San Antonio package but I'm curious about the other Texas team mentioned as a potential suitor, Houston. What are the boards thoughts about a package based around Sengun and the #10 pick? Would that offer trump Castle and #2?

I’m not advocating for it but I have vaguely come around on the idea of adding Trey Murphy and Tre Johnson. It’s kind of juvenile team building but having two more elite shooters on the wing and a high 2026 draft pick has a low floor but a high ceiling to it while improving $.

[yeleven11]

Zach lowe said on his pod said he heard very broad discussions about three-team durant related trades where jrue “moves somewhere.” It wasn’t clear beyond that. Definitely didn’t sound like we were getting durant tho.

[Hal14]

Zach lowe said on his pod said he heard very broad discussions about three-team durant related trades where jrue “moves somewhere.” It wasn’t clear beyond that. Definitely didn’t sound like we were getting durant tho.

Well rumor is Miami is now maybe the favorite to land KD.

So maybe something like KD to Miami, Jrue to Phoenix (who desperately needs a PG) and Miami assets to Boston.

Not sure what Miami could send us that I would want though..but I suppose we're mainly moving Jrue for the $ savings, rather than making the team better..

[klemen44]

Zach lowe said on his pod said he heard very broad discussions about three-team durant related trades where jrue “moves somewhere.” It wasn’t clear beyond that. Definitely didn’t sound like we were getting durant tho.

If MIA is in a 3way and Bos return is Duncan robinson contract, only 10million guaranted... That would be a huge win as far salary cap problems.

Than you just trade Houser into someone cao space/mle and thats it.

[Celticlifer]

duncan robinson is not playable. We're not trading for guys who can't play d.

[GreenBlooded]

Zach lowe said on his pod said he heard very broad discussions about three-team durant related trades where jrue “moves somewhere.” It wasn’t clear beyond that. Definitely didn’t sound like we were getting durant tho.

Well rumor is Miami is now maybe the favorite to land KD.

So maybe something like KD to Miami, Jrue to Phoenix (who desperately needs a PG) and Miami assets to Boston.

Not sure what Miami could send us that I would want though..but I suppose we're mainly moving Jrue for the $ savings, rather than making the team better..

Likely Robinson's contract (terminated and stretched) and perhaps something simple like swapping #20 for #28?

[Shak_Celts]

Whatever trades we make, I want no one to be in Ricos way. It’s the opportunity to give him all he can handle!

[Marvel]

SI has a mock trade between Boston & San Antonio. Jaylen Brown to Spurs for Castle, Vassell, #2, a top 10 protected future first and another pick. I doubt the Spurs would offer that, but if they do, Brad will HAVE to accept that deal. Type of trade that instantly resets Boston. Opens up a bunch of other options for Brad as well. For example, would Dallas do #2 & Derrick White for #1?

Jaylen Brown/Derrick White for Flagg, Vassell, Castle and 2 future 1sts. That's the end result.

Fun to at least think about.

This is the only deal i am interested in. Brad do your job.

[Hal14]

I know it's old business but it still bothers me the Jrue 2024 extension number. Knowing the new CBA, the second apron, how could we extend Jrue at 4yrs/$135? That number is substantially over market for Jrue at 34yrs. The contract wasnt a reward for title contributions because it came before the playoffs. If we had extended Jrue 3/$80 or 4/$100, our roster flexibility right now would be way better.

He was eligible to sign for up to 5 years, $221 mil on his extension though. We got him to sign for much less than that - 4 yrs, $135 mil.

Seems like where Brad signed him was a happy medium between what you suggested we sign him for (super low ball offer which might be sign to Jrue as disrespectful for a guy who wasn't really declining yet, was a key piece on a team that was a serious title contender, a player who Brad had wanted to get on the Celtics for a long time) and the maximum amount he was eligible to sign for (but signing him at that number, given his age would have likely been an irresponsible overpay worthy of the criticism you're giving him here).

Plus, the more we sign him for, the more we can get back via trade in terms of salary matching. Of course, at a certain point, if we sign him to too much money, then he becomes an asset that would be really hard to move, without attaching picks..which is why Brad didn't gibe him the maximum amount he was eligible for..he found that happy medium.

And now it seems like there is a pretty decent trade market for Jrue with teams who want him, without us having to attach picks to get off the contract.

And who knows, maybe Jrue said he wouldn't sign the extension for less than the amount Brad gave him. So Brad signed him to it, rather than taking the chance that we lose Jrue for nothing..

[redslastlaugh]

He was eligible to sign for up to 5 years, $221 mil on his extension though. We got him to sign for much less than that - 4 yrs, $135 mil.

Seems like where Brad signed him was a happy medium between what you suggested we sign him for (super low ball offer which might be sign to Jrue as disrespectful for a guy who wasn't really declining yet, was a key piece on a team that was a serious title contender, a player who Brad had wanted to get on the Celtics for a long time) and the maximum amount he was eligible to sign for (but signing him at that number, given his age would have likely been an irresponsible overpay worthy of the criticism you're giving him here).

If we didn't come to an extension with Jrue and he opted in for 2024-25 and was a free agent right now, I think he'd be looking at 3/$45 on the open market. Unless BRK wanted to overpay to sign Jrue because Nets wanted to catch Giannis's eye, I dont see a team going over MidLevel

In the new CBA, Jrue market is nothing like what we signed him for. And I love Jrue but he's 35 yrs old. When Al Horford was up for extension in his age 36 season he re-upped for 2/$20 million. Again, Jrue's extension is old business. They re-signed Jrue to that number. It is what it is. I need to let it go, lol

[Hal14]

SI has a mock trade between Boston & San Antonio. Jaylen Brown to Spurs for Castle, Vassell, #2, a top 10 protected future first and another pick. I doubt the Spurs would offer that, but if they do, Brad will HAVE to accept that deal. Type of trade that instantly resets Boston. Opens up a bunch of other options for Brad as well. For example, would Dallas do #2 & Derrick White for #1?

Jaylen Brown/Derrick White for Flagg, Vassell, Castle and 2 future 1sts. That's the end result.

Fun to at least think about.

This is the only deal i am interested in. Brad do your job.

I doubt the Spurs would do that..

[Parasite]

duncan robinson is not playable. We're not trading for guys who can't play d.

Hauser was atrocious on D last season. Really regressed from the previous year.

[playa-hater]

Whatever trades we make, I want no one to be in Ricos way. It’s the opportunity to give him all he can handle!

There will be one person in his way... Joe..

[djFan71]

He was eligible to sign for up to 5 years, $221 mil on his extension though. We got him to sign for much less than that - 4 yrs, $135 mil.

Seems like where Brad signed him was a happy medium between what you suggested we sign him for (super low ball offer which might be sign to Jrue as disrespectful for a guy who wasn't really declining yet, was a key piece on a team that was a serious title contender, a player who Brad had wanted to get on the Celtics for a long time) and the maximum amount he was eligible to sign for (but signing him at that number, given his age would have likely been an irresponsible overpay worthy of the criticism you're giving him here).

If we didn't come to an extension with Jrue and he opted in for 2024-25 and was a free agent right now, I think he'd be looking at 3/$45 on the open market. Unless BRK wanted to overpay to sign Jrue because Nets wanted to catch Giannis's eye, I dont see a team going over MidLevel

In the new CBA, Jrue market is nothing like what we signed him for. And I love Jrue but he's 35 yrs old. When Al Horford was up for extension in his age 36 season he re-upped for 2/$20 million. Again, Jrue's extension is old business. They re-signed Jrue to that number. It is what it is. I need to let it go, lol

Part of the higher $ is by opting out of his last year and starting lower, we saved taxes previously. He declined $37M and started at $30M, so that has to be factored in. But, I think the overall value was still a little too much. If it was $25M/year average for the additional 3 years, it would have been a 4 yr / $112M range instead of 4 years / $134M. $5M per year cheaper and still fair, imo. If we started it high and declined it would have been much more favorable. Then the player option would make more sense. On the cheapest year, so he opts out if he's still killing it and gets more.

But, alas, we did not.

[CelticFaninLBC]

Zach lowe said on his pod said he heard very broad discussions about three-team durant related trades where jrue “moves somewhere.” It wasn’t clear beyond that. Definitely didn’t sound like we were getting durant tho.

Well rumor is Miami is now maybe the favorite to land KD.

So maybe something like KD to Miami, Jrue to Phoenix (who desperately needs a PG) and Miami assets to Boston.

Not sure what Miami could send us that I would want though..but I suppose we're mainly moving Jrue for the $ savings, rather than making the team better..

Seems Miami either has to move Wiggins or Rozier to make the money work. I wouldn't mind swapping Wiggins for Jrue, but that doesn't get them much savings...

[Fierce1]

It's true that a championship team should have a #1 and #2 option.

But the Cs seem to have a 1a and 1b option.

If Cs opt to trade JB and get 2 or 3 quality players in return, that will not be a bad thing.